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Eri Sasaki - Ring of Fortune (Zekk Remix) [Taiko]

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Nardoxyribonucleic
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年10月25日 at 23:57:38

Artist: Eri Sasaki
Title: Ring of Fortune (Zekk Remix)
Source: プラスティック・メモリーズ
Tags: Taiko Plastic Memories Opening TKS
BPM: 175
Filesize: 8750kb
Play Time: 05:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. Remembrance (5.19 stars, 2125 notes)
Download: Eri Sasaki - Ring of Fortune (Zekk Remix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#41 - For Approval
BG - 100%
Remembrance - 100% (Inner Oni by TKS and me)

Collaboration Parts
00:00:100 - 00:34:385 - me
00:34:385 - 00:56:328 - TKS
00:56:328 - 01:12:785 - me
01:12:785 - 01:34:728 - TKS
01:34:728 - 01:56:671 - me
01:56:671 - 02:29:585 - TKS
02:29:585 - 02:51:528 - me
02:51:528 - 03:07:985 - TKS
03:07:985 - 03:29:928 - me
03:29:928 - 03:51:871 - TKS
03:51:871 - 04:16:557 - me
04:16:557 - 04:38:500 - TKS
04:38:500 - 05:00:442 - me
05:00:442 - 05:22:385 - TKS
05:22:385 - 05:51:185 - me
TKS
adjusted some notes to get better density on the whole.

https://puu.sh/xTrW0/5b01fecc20.txt

04:42:614 - add a don/DON? although plays a bit werid, it seems/sounds legit.
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

TKS wrote:

adjusted some notes to get better density on the whole.

https://puu.sh/xTrW0/5b01fecc20.txt

04:42:614 - add a don/DON? although plays a bit werid, it seems/sounds legit. I prefer d
Fixed and updated :3
yassu-
Nardo's part
・01:07:471 - change to k and 01:08:842 - change to d fit to sounds and 01:07:471 (72,73,74) - 01:08:842 (77,78,79) - swap pattern.
・01:12:100 - 01:12:442 - add k 01:55:985 (187,188) - vocal pattern
・01:56:328 - add finish 01:45:357 - pattern
・03:29:242 - add ddd(1/4) drum follow
・04:40:985 - 04:41:071 - add d? drum
・04:48:100 ~ 04:49:471 - add spinner Spinner can express excitement more than space.

TKS's part
・00:51:871 - add k 前のパターンではvocalを拾っていたので。
・01:27:700 - change to d 音取り。
・01:34:300 - delete and 01:34:385 - add finish nardoさんpartの 01:45:357 - でもfinishを使っていたので統一のため。
・02:18:528 - 02:18:614 - delete 02:18:442 - 音はここで途切れているので、違和感があります。
 ・05:11:328 (108,109) - delete ^
・02:59:757 - add finish 
・03:50:842 - 03:51:185 - change to d and add finish 01:55:642 (186,187,188) - ここと比べて、vocalに合わせて変化する感じで。
・04:35:414 - add d 03:04:900 - 01:09:700 - vocal合わせ

nice map!
good luck~ :D
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

yassu- wrote:

Nardo's part
・01:07:471 - change to k and 01:08:842 - change to d fit to sounds and 01:07:471 (72,73,74) - 01:08:842 (77,78,79) - swap pattern. I think the current pattern could reflect the vocal pitch in a way better especially 01:09:185 (79,80,81) -
・01:12:100 - 01:12:442 - add k 01:55:985 (187,188) - vocal pattern Added d and k respectively.
・01:56:328 - add finish 01:45:357 - pattern fixed
・03:29:242 - add ddd(1/4) drum follow ^
・04:40:985 - 04:41:071 - add d? drum No change for this one as I would like to keep note density low.
・04:48:100 ~ 04:49:471 - add spinner Spinner can express excitement more than space. The break here is intentional as the upcoming kiai is rather hard.

nice map!
good luck~ :D
Thanks for your mod yassu~ :)
TKS

yassu- wrote:

TKS's part
・00:51:871 - add k 前のパターンではvocalを拾っていたので。- 00:45:357 - からボーカルは拾っていません。
・01:27:700 - change to d 音取り。- fixed
・01:34:300 - delete and 01:34:385 - add finish nardoさんpartの 01:45:357 - でもfinishを使っていたので統一のため。- いいえ。コラボ譜面ってそういうものでは?
・02:18:528 - 02:18:614 - delete 02:18:442 - 音はここで途切れているので、違和感があります。
 ・05:11:328 (108,109) - delete ^ - fixed them.
・02:59:757 - add finish - このパートで大音符を使うつもりはないです。
・03:50:842 - 03:51:185 - change to d and add finish 01:55:642 (186,187,188) - ここと比べて、vocalに合わせて変化する感じで。- いいえ。
・04:35:414 - add d 03:04:900 - 01:09:700 - vocal合わせ - やや過剰かも知れませんが、大音符を孤立させ強調すべきパートだと思います。

nice map!
good luck~ :D
thanks for the mod!

please fix below instead of me (:3_ヽ)_
01:27:700 - change to don
02:18:528 (186,187) - remove
05:11:328 (108,109) - remove
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Updated TKS parts (:3_ヽ)_
Protonori
From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

TKS' parts
02:56:157 (32,33,34,35) - I think dkkd or ddkd would be a better choice, since there are vocals at 02:56:328.

03:30:100 (2,3,4,5,6) - Maybe try ddkd k? I think it matches the pitch better, and it's easier to play.

03:35:585 (47,48,49,50) - kddk? You normally use kkddk for this sound [01:34:900 and 01:45:871], so it would make more sense imo. It also reflects the pattern at 03:36:185 (52,53,54,55,56).

Nardo's parts
This isn't exactly a problem, but the section at 00:12:785 goes for almost 10 seconds without 1/2 breaks. (The kiai sections also do this, which is fine.) Since this is the beginning of the map, I'd recommend adding a small 1/2 break.

00:18:100 - If you agree, you could delete this note or move it to 00:18:185?

00:29:414 (131) - ^ Same thing. I like this part, but breaks might be a decent idea.

00:25:300 (99,100,101,102,103) - Use dkdkd? The patterns at 00:27:357 and 00:30:785 start with dk, so I think this flows better.

04:54:100 (93) - Change to k? It sounds better when played imo.

Finding things to mod was quite a challenge, since I already like your mapping styles.
Hopefully this'll have some use, and good luck with ranking! :)
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

Nardo's parts
This isn't exactly a problem, but the section at 00:12:785 goes for almost 10 seconds without 1/2 breaks. (The kiai sections also do this, which is fine.) Since this is the beginning of the map, I'd recommend adding a small 1/2 break. I think keeping the current chain could help emphasize the 1/2 pauses at 00:22:214 (84,85,86,87,88) -

00:18:100 - If you agree, you could delete this note or move it to 00:18:185? ^

00:29:414 (131) - ^ Same thing. I like this part, but breaks might be a decent idea. ^

00:25:300 (99,100,101,102,103) - Use dkdkd? The patterns at 00:27:357 and 00:30:785 start with dk, so I think this flows better. Retained as addition of 00:14:328 (25,26,27,28) -

04:54:100 (93) - Change to k? It sounds better when played imo. I think d would be fine as it has the lowest pitch among 04:54:100 (93,94,95) -

Finding things to mod was quite a challenge, since I already like your mapping styles.
Hopefully this'll have some use, and good luck with ranking! :)
Thanks for your mod and opinion~ :)
EdamaMe411
Hi Nardo~ ;)
from PM
Nardo part
00:15:014 (30,31) - ,00:17:671 (50,51,52) - del,,,,I felt that the first part was too long so,you should better simple notes line.

00:28:642 (120,121,122) - del....same reason

01:04:385 (53) - del,,,,consistant with01:01:642 - :D

01:39:528 (46) - change d and 01:39:785 (48) - del,,,,To make a clear sound aware 01:39:700 (47) -

01:53:671 (166) - move to 01:53:842 - and,change d,,,,,I felt the flow became beautiful 8-)

02:45:614 (59) - del,,,,,, I wanted to make this sound clear 02:45:700 (60,61,62) -

02:47:414 - add d,,,,02:47:500 (69) - I felt unnatural only k 02:47:500 (69) -

03:18:700 (46) - del and 03:18:785 (47) - change k,,,,,just feeling.It is not a big deal :D

04:00:871 (77) - del ,,,,04:00:957 (77,78,79) - This part sounds clear. Therefore, I felt that it would be better not to be 1/4 five hits.

04:10:471 (156) - del and 04:10:557 (156) - change k,,,,consistant with 04:08:500 (141,142) - 04:09:185 (146,147) - 04:09:871 (151,152) - 04:10:557 (156,157) - dk kk dk kk are good ;)

That's all :) :)
Sorry for short modding :(
Good luck :lol:
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

EdamaMe411 wrote:

Hi Nardo~ ;)
from PM
Nardo part
00:15:014 (30,31) - ,00:17:671 (50,51,52) - del,,,,I felt that the first part was too long so,you should better simple notes line. As mentioned previously, I think keeping the current chain could help emphasize the 1/2 pauses at 00:22:214 (84,85,86,87,88) - . In addition, the music is relatively intense compared to next session so it would be undesirable to crack the chain.

00:28:642 (120,121,122) - del....same reason same as ^

01:04:385 (53) - del,,,,consistant with01:01:642 - :D Retained to cohere with 01:07:128 -

01:39:528 (46) - change d and 01:39:785 (48) - del,,,,To make a clear sound aware 01:39:700 (47) - No change as the current pattern could accompany the higher-pitched sound at 01:39:528 (46) -

01:53:671 (166) - move to 01:53:842 - and,change d,,,,,I felt the flow became beautiful 8-) Added a note at 01:53:842 -

02:45:614 (59) - del,,,,,, I wanted to make this sound clear 02:45:700 (60,61,62) - Remain unchanged as a difficulty increase compared to 00:50:414 -

02:47:414 - add d,,,,02:47:500 (69) - I felt unnatural only k 02:47:500 (69) - Hmm, I think it would be more coherent with 02:41:757 (35,36,37,48,49,50) - by keeping the note alone.

03:18:700 (46) - del and 03:18:785 (47) - change k,,,,,just feeling.It is not a big deal :D kkd could fit the pitch drop well imo.

04:00:871 (77) - del ,,,,04:00:957 (77,78,79) - This part sounds clear. Therefore, I felt that it would be better not to be 1/4 five hits. Hmm, I think the note works properly with the vocal.

04:10:471 (156) - del and 04:10:557 (156) - change k,,,,consistant with 04:08:500 (141,142) - 04:09:185 (146,147) - 04:09:871 (151,152) - 04:10:557 (156,157) - dk kk dk kk are good ;) same as ^

That's all :) :)
Sorry for short modding :(
Good luck :lol:
Thanks for your mod~ :)
TKS

Protonori wrote:

From my modding queue~
Remember that these are suggestions. Feel free to ignore them.

TKS' parts
02:56:157 (32,33,34,35) - I think dkkd or ddkd would be a better choice, since there are vocals at 02:56:328. - im not focusing on the vocal sound here.

03:30:100 (2,3,4,5,6) - Maybe try ddkd k? I think it matches the pitch better, and it's easier to play. - sounds nice.

03:35:585 (47,48,49,50) - kddk? You normally use kkddk for this sound [01:34:900 and 01:45:871], so it would make more sense imo. It also reflects the pattern at 03:36:185 (52,53,54,55,56). - keep as it is. kat sound may be broken the consistency with 03:46:557 -
thank you for the mod!

@nardo pls fix 03:30:100 - as ddkd k as protonori suggested. thanks in advance for fixing my part as always :roll:
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic
Difficulty is updated till this point.
-Sh1n1-

Nardo

  1. Don't you want to move your BG a little bit down?
  2. 00:02:842 (2) - should be d imo to contrast 00:01:471 (1) -, instrumental sounds are totally different, also vocal cause "a" is prominent at 00:01:471 - while "u" is prominent at 00:02:842 -
  3. 01:35:157 (5) - what do you think about moving to 01:35:328 -? first of all 01:34:900 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - and 01:35:757 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - sounds different to keep the same estructure, also a 5-plet after finish note sometimes are unconfortable, that's why I wanna suggest you to keep consistency with 01:40:385 (54,55,56) -, 01:40:214 - represent the beginning of the second half of this section and the current pattern after such note is more confortable ( 01:40:385 (54,55,56,57) - ).
  4. 01:46:128 (97) - move to 01:46:300 - for consistency with my previous point.

TKS

yahallo TKS~~
  1. 01:14:671 (8) - this one could be deleted for some reasons:
    -I understand 01:13:300 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - as a pattern that is keeping consistency with 01:16:042 (14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) -, but taking a look to your next pattern on 01:21:528 (37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53) - I feel that is better if you create an environment where density increase gradually, that's why I think that 01:18:785 - deserve a note instead of 01:17:414 -, so for consistency, the note on 01:14:671 - should be removed too.
  2. 01:22:471 - I can hear drum here instead of 01:22:300 -.
  3. from 01:26:157 - to 01:33:357 - I know that both have different styles but it's kinda weird that the first half of the map has more intensity than the part from 03:18:957 - to 03:28:557 -, so what do you think about remove some notes to enphasize strong sounds, e.g 01:29:500 (86) - and 01:31:214 (94) -, I mean here is more obvious cause you are not enphasizing 01:26:500 - 01:27:871 - 01:29:242 - 01:29:757 - etc with finishers where I think they deserve cause the sound is really prominent.
  4. 05:21:700 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177) - vs 02:28:900 (1) - consistency pls.

Call me back senpai, sorry for long delay :(
TKS

-Sh1n1- wrote:

TKS

yahallo TKS~~ - ohai
  1. 01:14:671 (8) - this one could be deleted for some reasons:
    -I understand 01:13:300 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - as a pattern that is keeping consistency with 01:16:042 (14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25) -, but taking a look to your next pattern on 01:21:528 (37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53) - I feel that is better if you create an environment where density increase gradually, that's why I think that 01:18:785 - deserve a note instead of 01:17:414 -, so for consistency, the note on 01:14:671 - should be removed too. - i have reset the flow from 01:18:271 - ~ 01:21:014 - to emphasize the next pattern. therefore a trivial variety doesnt work well imo.
  2. 01:22:471 - I can hear drum here instead of 01:22:300 -. - yes moved as kat.
  3. from 01:26:157 - to 01:33:357 - I know that both have different styles but it's kinda weird that the first half of the map has more intensity than the part from 03:18:957 - to 03:28:557 -, so what do you think about remove some notes to enphasize strong sounds, e.g 01:29:500 (86) - and 01:31:214 (94) -, I mean here is more obvious cause you are not enphasizing 01:26:500 - 01:27:871 - 01:29:242 - 01:29:757 - etc with finishers where I think they deserve cause the sound is really prominent. - although i removed 2 notes as you suggested, there is actually no problem because we have our styles as you mentioned. also about finishers, this part has some strong sounds indeed but i think taht this part is relatively calm part. current pattern is perfectly working to make good connection for 01:34:728 - ~
  4. 05:21:700 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177) - vs 02:28:900 (1) - consistency pls. - its intentional. look that pattern 05:21:700 (170,171,172,173,174,175,176,177,1,2,3) - as "a pattern" even though its including nardos part. this stream is pretty working to contain a bit strong flow.

Call me back senpai, sorry for long delay :(
thankyo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u!!!!!!

maipart https://puu.sh/y6Nii/31f59e15db.txt
Topic Starter
Nardoxyribonucleic

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Nardo

  1. Don't you want to move your BG a little bit down? The current position seems okay as I mainly put the focus on the girl.
  2. 00:02:842 (2) - should be d imo to contrast 00:01:471 (1) -, instrumental sounds are totally different, also vocal cause "a" is prominent at 00:01:471 - while "u" is prominent at 00:02:842 - Hmm, I would like to keep the pair consistent with 00:06:957 (3,5) -
  3. 01:35:157 (5) - what do you think about moving to 01:35:328 -? first of all 01:34:900 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - and 01:35:757 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - sounds different to keep the same estructure, also a 5-plet after finish note sometimes are unconfortable, that's why I wanna suggest you to keep consistency with 01:40:385 (54,55,56) -, 01:40:214 - represent the beginning of the second half of this section and the current pattern after such note is more confortable ( 01:40:385 (54,55,56,57) - ). fixed
  4. 01:46:128 (97) - move to 01:46:300 - for consistency with my previous point. ^

Call me back senpai, sorry for long delay :(
Thanks for your mod -Sh1n1-~ :)
-Sh1n1-
Great Collab, do more please

Aurele
yuzu__rinrin
gratz, nice song! nice map! (。◕ˇдˇ​◕。)/
komasy
gratz! :)
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