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crystalsuicune

Philosofikal wrote:

No, it is better to wait for a nebulous possible future solution instead of taking definite action that could mostly resolve the problem with a couple of days work. A few more months, a year, possibly more is a realistic timeframe to deal with this issue, why let good enough be the enemy of ideal? After all, these solutions are mutually exclusive and in no way can we do one in the near future and the other one whenever it is ready.

Just be quiet and stop causing issues. Something of value will be done with this forum eventually. Maybe.
I'm guessing that the post you're replying to is another one of those "I'll post with a quote of a post and nothing else" single-post-count people
autoteleology

crystalsuicune wrote:

I'm guessing that the post you're replying to is another one of those "I'll post with a quote of a post and nothing else" single-post-count people

h3oCharles wrote:

I've just talked with deadbeat, he said to wait and see if we're going to get a new site when lazer is done.
In other words, "we're passing the buck".
deadbeat
OK here's the thing. Even IF we did exactly what you suggested 20 times, that still require a lot of moderator presence and frankly, that's still low as always. I'd much rather have a site that would almost nullify the need for mods. Automate everything and only need mods to remove a few uploaded skins every now and then. Doesn't that sound a hell of a lot better than a forum system that requires moderators to make anything work?
Nitrous

deadbeat wrote:

OK here's the thing. Even IF we did exactly what you suggested 20 times, that still require a lot of moderator presence and frankly, that's still low as always. I'd much rather have a site that would almost nullify the need for mods. Automate everything and only need mods to remove a few uploaded skins every now and then. Doesn't that sound a hell of a lot better than a forum system that requires moderators to make anything work?
Basically like the Loved System where its user-nominated whether Skin X is a mixed skin and we should get rid of it or Skin Y is a great skin we should push this?
Correct me again if I'm wrong but if this is what you're after, this might be a great idea. More user interaction and less moderator presence needed.
O2MasterFX
^Then skinning nomination it is
deadbeat

-Nitrous wrote:

deadbeat wrote:

OK here's the thing. Even IF we did exactly what you suggested 20 times, that still require a lot of moderator presence and frankly, that's still low as always. I'd much rather have a site that would almost nullify the need for mods. Automate everything and only need mods to remove a few uploaded skins every now and then. Doesn't that sound a hell of a lot better than a forum system that requires moderators to make anything work?

Basically like the Loved System where its user-nominated whether Skin X is a mixed skin and we should get rid of it or Skin Y is a great skin we should push this?
Correct me again if I'm wrong but if this is what you're after, this might be a great idea. More user interaction and less moderator presence needed.
Not quite. Most of the moderation needed here is locking, pinning and moving threads. You know, standard forum stuff. But with a dedicated skin site, locking and pinning threads doesn't need to happen, and we can automate skins getting marked as completed. Granted mods would still be needed for inappropriate skins and whatnot, but It'd work a lot better than what we have now.
h3oCharles
now THIS is exactly what I was talking about... ppl reposting OPs.
O2MasterFX
Either they are stupid or they think the "Quote" button was mistaken as "reblog this", "like", or "share" because of the icon next to the text,
Lyawi
Because the most newbies are interested in skins, they will look into this subforum and that's why it happends here a lot. Seems like you have to handle it and live with that, it's not too bad. They're just new and doesn't know how a forum works.
Alexkuzi
Then How Can You Upload Mixed Skins Without breaking The Rules???
autoteleology
uhhhh, you don't? lol? we don't want them.
Alexkuzi

Philosofikal wrote:

uhhhh, you don't? lol? we don't want them.
I Said How Can You Upload Mixed Skins Without breaking The Rules!!! I'm Not Fucking Joking!!!
autoteleology
I'm also not joking. They are banned for a reason, namely that they are worthless to the skinning community. If you want to share your mixed skin, put a link in your profile, or your signature. Do not post them.
Alexkuzi

Philosofikal wrote:

I'm also not joking. They are banned for a reason, namely that they are worthless to the skinning community. If you want to share your mixed skin, put a link in your profile, or your signature. Do not post them.
Oh. Thank you! :)
Nitrous
What the other guy said is practically correct but vague... Mixed skins are not allowed because of several reasons being:
  1. Using other people's work without permission is an act of plagiarism which is illegal.
  2. Promoting effortless and unoriginal work is unfair towards to people who spent hours on making original work.
Hope you don't go rampant like what you did in the other sub-forums and understand this.
Lyawi

Kurai wrote:

here is a list of moderators who are willing to help:
  1. deadbeat
  2. Flanster
  3. Gabe
  4. Kurai
  5. Nathanael
I don't wanna sound mean but is this still a thing? I saw no one who was willing to help except in the beginning. Exceptions are Nathanael and even Dntm8meeatu from time to time....
Nathanael
I don't think so but we have made another conversation regarding this subforum.

Also, we're now strictly "no mixed skins allowed" so we'll immediately wasteland threads. The 24 hour proof requirement is no longer a thing. If possible, use the nuke icon when replying to indicate that the thread is mixed and needs action (well if you use the old forum).
Frogsi
Do not post skins in the main sub-forum.
The main Skinning forum is now for questions and discussions. Therefore, use Work In Progress Skins instead.
Wait is that a thing now? But why? Because of the "mixed skins"-Problem ect.?
Dntm8kmeeatu

FroxXyyy wrote:

Do not post skins in the main sub-forum.
The main Skinning forum is now for questions and discussions. Therefore, use Work In Progress Skins instead.

Wait is that a thing now? But why? Because of the "mixed skins"-Problem ect.?


It's to seperate Questions & Other Topics from actual Skins. Currently as it is, they are all mixed, and it's a bit of a mess.

It's not enforced currently, but once we figure out exactly how we are going to handle the change, it will be. You'll know when that day comes.
h3oCharles

Dntm8kmeeatu wrote:

You'll know when that day comes.
Please let it be on Christmas. It will be the best present for all of the skinners!
autoteleology
I'm thankful you decided to listen to me.
Nathanael
We'll start wastelanding threads with dead links.
psame
Very Nice...
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