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Aistre
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 13 October 2017 at 18:23:08

Artist: Denkishiki Karen Ongaku Shuudan
Title: Toki Hatsuru Yume
Source: ゴア・スクリーミング・ショウ
Tags: Visual Novel Gore Screaming Show Yui Itsuki 華憐 華憐的音楽集
BPM: 72.5
Filesize: 11539kb
Play Time: 04:58
Difficulties Available:
  1. Forgotten Memory (4.63 stars, 788 notes)
Download: Denkishiki Karen Ongaku Shuudan - Toki Hatsuru Yume
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Timing from Lama Poluna's map.


「I am your forgotten dream, Broken and Unseen」
Venix
m4ticket
Red means this point is about unrankable thing.

[Metadata]
Title, artist and source is correct.
Resources:
  1. Official site: http://www.denkare.net/archives/audio/album-x
[Forgotten Memory]
  1. 00:29:113 (5,6) - Since you placed spacings like 00:15:872 (5,6) - this, 00:19:182 (5,6) - this or 00:35:734 (5,6) - this etc. this on similar rythm, don't you think you should make it similar instead of overlapped stacking? I think it will works better for consistency because spacings on similar rythms will be similar. Composition like this fits nice 00:48:975 (5,6) - here, where rythm should be emphasised because there's vocal line here.
  2. 01:17:734 (3,4) - If you have used here spacing like this, you should spice up spacing 01:18:768 (6,7) - here because rythm here is more important and it should be emphaisied well.
  3. 01:52:699 (1) - 01:56:010 (1) - If you have ignored sounds on red ticks here, you should ignore them 01:56:837 (2,3,4) - here too. I prefer do 3/4 slider + circle instead here like you did on similar compositions.
  4. 02:05:941 (1) - 02:09:251 (1) - Beore this wasn't issue but here it is because these sounds on red ticks are important I think. What are you think about 1/2 + circle after 1/4 interval instead of these sliders?
  5. 03:11:320 - I think this sound is too important to get ignored. 03:08:837 (1) - here repeat was on piano sound so why not keep consistency here and change this slider to 1/1 one with repeat. I think it works much better here.
  6. 03:44:423 (6,7) - Strong vocal line shouldn't be ignored 03:44:837 - here. I think you should use rythm ctrl+g on 03:44:733 (7,8) - this one. If you do this you'll emphasise 03:44:733 - this rythm better too I think. // 04:02:940 (7,8) - The same here. // 04:04:491 (6,7,8) - here etc.
  7. 04:58:320 (1) - Slider slide sound on beginning is unnecessary I guess.
Good luck~
Topic Starter
Aistre

Venix wrote:

m4ticket
Red means this point is about unrankable thing.

[Metadata]
Title, artist and source is correct.
Resources:
  1. Official site: http://www.denkare.net/archives/audio/album-x
[Forgotten Memory]
  1. 00:29:113 (5,6) - Since you placed spacings like 00:15:872 (5,6) - this, 00:19:182 (5,6) - this or 00:35:734 (5,6) - this etc. this on similar rythm, don't you think you should make it similar instead of overlapped stacking? I think it will works better for consistency because spacings on similar rythms will be similar. Composition like this fits nice 00:48:975 (5,6) - here, where rythm should be emphasised because there's vocal line here.
  2. 01:17:734 (3,4) - If you have used here spacing like this, you should spice up spacing 01:18:768 (6,7) - here because rythm here is more important and it should be emphaisied well. I tried to emphasize it by giving it a more sharper, shorter spacing
  3. 01:52:699 (1) - 01:56:010 (1) - If you have ignored sounds on red ticks here, you should ignore them 01:56:837 (2,3,4) - here too. I prefer do 3/4 slider + circle instead here like you did on similar compositions. These are for dragging out the vocals, there's no vocals snapped to the red ticks whereas the blue tick does
  4. 02:05:941 (1) - 02:09:251 (1) - Beore this wasn't issue but here it is because these sounds on red ticks are important I think. What are you think about 1/2 + circle after 1/4 interval instead of these sliders? Refer to above
  5. 03:11:320 - I think this sound is too important to get ignored. 03:08:837 (1) - here repeat was on piano sound so why not keep consistency here and change this slider to 1/1 one with repeat. I think it works much better here. I'm focusing on the vocals here with the foreground piano keysounded
  6. 03:44:423 (6,7) - Strong vocal line shouldn't be ignored 03:44:837 - here. I think you should use rythm ctrl+g on 03:44:733 (7,8) - this one. If you do this you'll emphasise 03:44:733 - this rythm better too I think. // 04:02:940 (7,8) - The same here. // 04:04:491 (6,7,8) - here etc. Not really a big fan because I start to prioritize the background instruments
  7. 04:58:320 (1) - Slider slide sound on beginning is unnecessary I guess.
Good luck~
Thanks, everything unmentioned was fixed :)
Mking
M4M

Play time 4:58 and stars 4.58 :kyahh:
02:40:285 (6,7,1) - should 7 and 1 be more spaced than 6 and 7 cause higher pitch?
04:12:561 (7) - NC? you did an NC on the vocals before and after it so would make sense to repeat this pattern
04:20:837 (9) - again to maintain a pattern NC here? you did it on the reverse sliders before them and the streams are all mutliplies of 8

sorry to disappoint, I really tried but I couldn't find anything more than this (ofcourse this is a good thing too cause it means your map is good) so if you ever need a mod just tell me! I'll try my best <3
gl!
Topic Starter
Aistre

Mking wrote:

M4M

Play time 4:58 and stars 4.58 :kyahh: It's actually 5:00 but the drain or play time doesn't account for the last object :thinking:
02:40:285 (6,7,1) - should 7 and 1 be more spaced than 6 and 7 cause higher pitch?
04:12:561 (7) - NC? you did an NC on the vocals before and after it so would make sense to repeat this pattern
04:20:837 (9) - again to maintain a pattern NC here? you did it on the reverse sliders before them and the streams are all mutliplies of 8

sorry to disappoint, I really tried but I couldn't find anything more than this (ofcourse this is a good thing too cause it means your map is good) so if you ever need a mod just tell me! I'll try my best <3
gl!
Thanks, applied everything
SnowNiNo_
omg the vocal =w=
  • [I]
  1. 00:03:458 (1) - 00:06:768 (1) - 00:10:079 (1) - add finish to keep consistent
  2. 00:16:285 (6,1) - 00:19:596 (6,1) - inconsistent spacing usage
  3. 00:34:699 (3,4) - why not keep stacking to stay consistent with the previous part
  4. 00:42:975 - imo use a note here instead can give more impact in gameplay
  5. 01:11:320 (4,5) - space more cuz rn the spacing looks the same as the 1/2 gap 01:11:113 (3,4) -
  6. 01:18:768 (6,7) - spaced out for emphasis
  7. 02:43:389 - pitch is going down here tho, the spacing should be decreasing
  8. 03:48:147 (4) - replaced by 2 notes makes more sense since ur making the drum sound clickable here but u ignored 03:48:251 -
  9. 04:13:388 (1,2) - i dont rly recommend using reverse slider at the most intense part of the song, instead should be a large spacing stream
  10. 04:20:837 (1) - this feel rly weird in gameplay imo, how about use this https://puu.sh/xw8cQ/9ae9df6d65.jpg instead, give a good emphasis on the drum sound and keep ur concept
Topic Starter
Aistre

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

omg the vocal =w=
  • [I]
  1. 00:03:458 (1) - 00:06:768 (1) - 00:10:079 (1) - add finish to keep consistent imo that makes the finishes too common
  2. 00:16:285 (6,1) - 00:19:596 (6,1) - inconsistent spacing usage
  3. 00:34:699 (3,4) - why not keep stacking to stay consistent with the previous part The vocals get slightly more powerful so i represented it with the spacing change
  4. 00:42:975 - imo use a note here instead can give more impact in gameplay I don't think it's an important enough sound to make it clickable
  5. 01:11:320 (4,5) - space more cuz rn the spacing looks the same as the 1/2 gap 01:11:113 (3,4) -
  6. 01:18:768 (6,7) - spaced out for emphasis
  7. 02:43:389 - pitch is going down here tho, the spacing should be decreasing
  8. 03:48:147 (4) - replaced by 2 notes makes more sense since ur making the drum sound clickable here but u ignored 03:48:251 - The part i ignored isn't really anything significant and making this a triple makes the flow stop suddenly which would be awkward to play
  9. 04:13:388 (1,2) - i dont rly recommend using reverse slider at the most intense part of the song, instead should be a large spacing stream It's to make seperate the section from the big streams upcoming, it also gives the player a forewarning
  10. 04:20:837 (1) - this feel rly weird in gameplay imo, how about use this https://puu.sh/xw8cQ/9ae9df6d65.jpg instead, give a good emphasis on the drum sound and keep ur concept imo I like the emphasis it gives on the next stream which is arguably the hardest part of the map
Thank you :3
Hollow Wings
m4m

General

  1. why slider's track is all purple color? i think it looks not good... maybe change it to common setting...

Forgotten Memory

  1. 00:13:389 (1) - from here to 01:04:699 (1) - , you've set too little hitsounds to your objects, and that's easily not approved to nominators. i think you need add more to give effects and noticing rhythm to players with them.
  2. 01:12:148 (6,1) - this jump can give a larger distance one, even with anti-flow for it's 1/2 gap before downbeat.
  3. 01:23:527 (2) - try 223,345, like you did at 01:32:837 (1,2,3) - .
  4. 01:38:216 (5) - should be at 388,375 imo.
  5. 01:40:285 (3) - i recommend you reverse this slider... with sharp curving aiming flow and pause to emphasize the next slider seems better to me.
  6. 02:34:906 (5,6) - this jump is a bit sudden, move note 6 to 393,361 maybe.
  7. 02:51:251 (2) - jump here can be advanced as well, try stack at 380,185.
  8. 02:52:079 (5) - 328,295, this is obvious.
  9. good map, i love your placement of notes, have a star.
those piano sounds effect very well, must took lots of time of you i guess...

good luck!
Chewin
Hello Alphabet! Your mapset has been chosen from my Queue!
Sorry for being late btw I have been busy during last period xP

~General~

  1. Increase volumes of 5% green line to 15-20% at least because it's unrankable:
    Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.
  2. Your idea to use flashing combo colours for kiai time is pretty cool honestly but I would personally select something else related to the BG (always flashing) instead of these two random red and cyan (this is good but too flashing imo) that don't fit the BG theme at all. These two (a light green and less flashing cyan) would fill it in the best way imo: https://puu.sh/xzFLn.png
~Forgotten Memory~

  1. 00:01:389 (4,4) - These two circles should be invertent to be consistent with 00:08:010 (4,4) - . I mean the first should be at x:241 y:156 (it keeps the same trajectory of the previous circles like you did for 00:08:010 (4) - first part) while the second one should be at x:172 y:197 to make a triangle with previous circles like you did for 00:11:320 (4) - second part
  2. 00:18:148 (3,4) - Stack these two elements for consistency with all next parts? I see no reason to keep this differently compared to the next patterns
  3. 00:24:768 (3,4) - What about starting this pattern on the same line of the previous 00:24:148 (2) - 's trajectory? It's smoother than the actual one imo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087996
  4. 00:49:389 (6,1,2) - What about using an 1.30x spacing to be consistent with 01:00:148 (2,3,4) - ? It would be a nice idea imo
  5. 01:15:044 (4) - I would move this some grid upward because it's reverse is covered by accuracy bar and it looks ugly www
  6. 01:16:285 (1,2) - Using the same distance spacing of 01:12:975 (1,2) - that is snapped as 1/4 for this 1/2 rhythm looks kinda unexptected and confusing: you could easy fix this by adding a circle at 01:16:906 because I can hear a vocal sound (so you don't have to destroy the pattern). Furthermore, why did you decide to increase SV on (1)? The vocal isn't that different than previous section imo
  7. 01:18:768 (7,8) - Sudden change of spacing that is kinda confusing and questionable. You could stack the slider with (7) maybe?
  8. 01:20:423 (2) - Same of 01:16:285 (1,2) -. I don't get your decisions to make these sudden changes honestly TwT Mh.. I think best way to fix this is moving the slider further from previous element because adding a circle on the blue tick is not worth because I can't hear vocal there compared to the previous 01:16:285 (1,2) -I mentioned above
  9. 01:29:527 (1,2) - ^ it applies here as well (I won't mention them anymore because it would make the mod post too long xD Well.. I guess you got what I mean so you can check them by yourself
  10. 01:36:148 (1) - What about reducing it by 1/4 adding a circle on the blue tick? It would make it consistent with all other parts. It's kinda weird to see this longer slider placed there on the same section honestly xD
  11. 01:56:010 (1) - Same here: there is a sound on the red tick (1/4 earlier) that shouldn't be skipped imo same here 02:05:941 (1) - and so on, I won't mention again xP (They don't even follow the vocal because it ends 1/4 earlier sooo I don't understand TwT)
  12. 02:11:527 - There is a sound here in the music that should be clickable tbh What about adding a circle then? If you don't like the circle you could make an 1/4 slider with removing the 02:11:734 (5) -
  13. 02:14:010 (3,4) - (nazi) These circles are actually not perfectly linear with previous slider's trajectory
  14. 02:45:251 (5) - It would be a nice idea if you placed this slider in this way to connect it better with previous and next slider instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088089 just like you did with 02:55:182 (4) -
  15. 03:08:837 (1) - This slider's body is actually full covered by the previous one and it's actually unrankable since it appears too suddenly being stacked 1/4 from 03:07:182 (1)'s tail. I think it's very cool but it should be fixed orz
  16. 03:13:803 (4,5) - Wrong and confusing spacing: compared to the previous 1/2 this should be placed further from (4) because it's not 1/2
  17. 03:47:734 (1,2) - I would switch NC here to warn about the new upcoming 1/4 sliders (instead than circles) and because of the clap sound placed at 03:47:837 (2) - (it will be even aesthetically better imo)
  18. 03:49:802 (5) - This could sound nazi but move the second waypoint a bit on the right without grid snap activated to make it linear with the previous stream
  19. 03:52:492 (4) - Move this 1 grid down with distance snap activated so it's perfectly centered between 03:52:285 (3,1) -
  20. 04:14:320 (2,3) - I would reduce the spacing between these two to make it consistent with previous sliders (maybe you can make it x2.12 like 04:13:388 (1,2) - )
  21. 04:15:871 (9,9) - I would use NCs on these two to avoid this long combo section and it would be even consistent with 04:20:733 (8,1) - (This applies to the next streams as well of course)
  22. 04:26:630 (1) - Move this circle further because it has the same spacing of 04:25:595 (7,1) - that is 1/4 while this circle is snapped 1/2 later
I like the kiai time very much honestly xP You did a great job there. The map is very well made because it fits very well with this kind of song and softpiano hitsounding you decided to use. But even if I say this I think you should really fix those rhythm/spacing issues I mentioned above because they actually make the map look messy/confusing/unflowing. I wish you good luck for the rank!
Topic Starter
Aistre

Hollow Wings wrote:

m4m

General

  1. why slider's track is all purple color? i think it looks not good... maybe change it to common setting... I think it fits in with the mood the song creates, it's very minor and the vocals are emotional.

Forgotten Memory

  1. 00:13:389 (1) - from here to 01:04:699 (1) - , you've set too little hitsounds to your objects, and that's easily not approved to nominators. i think you need add more to give effects and noticing rhythm to players with them.
  2. 01:12:148 (6,1) - this jump can give a larger distance one, even with anti-flow for it's 1/2 gap before downbeat.
  3. 01:23:527 (2) - try 223,345, like you did at 01:32:837 (1,2,3) - .
  4. 01:38:216 (5) - should be at 388,375 imo.
  5. 01:40:285 (3) - i recommend you reverse this slider... with sharp curving aiming flow and pause to emphasize the next slider seems better to me. I like how it is because it gives a flow change to the finish
  6. 02:34:906 (5,6) - this jump is a bit sudden, move note 6 to 393,361 maybe.
  7. 02:51:251 (2) - jump here can be advanced as well, try stack at 380,185. I used standard spacing at parts I didn't emphasize with the pitch changing instrument
  8. 02:52:079 (5) - 328,295, this is obvious. I like the emphasis it gives though :cry:
  9. good map, i love your placement of notes, have a star. Thanks :3
those piano sounds effect very well, must took lots of time of you i guess...

good luck!
Thank you! Everything unmentioned was fixed
Renaming the keysounds took longer than actually using them lol

Chewin wrote:

Hello Alphabet! Your mapset has been chosen from my Queue!
Sorry for being late btw I have been busy during last period xP

~General~

  1. Increase volumes of 5% green line to 15-20% at least because it's unrankable:
    Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.
    Alright, changed each 5% green line to 15% so they technically shouldn't be silenced now. (imo pretty dumb rule not being able to silence sliderticks at the same time as anything else either lo)
  2. Your idea to use flashing combo colours for kiai time is pretty cool honestly but I would personally select something else related to the BG (always flashing) instead of these two random red and cyan (this is good but too flashing imo) that don't fit the BG theme at all. These two (a light green and less flashing cyan) would fill it in the best way imo: https://puu.sh/xzFLn.png
~Forgotten Memory~

  1. 00:01:389 (4,4) - These two circles should be invertent to be consistent with 00:08:010 (4,4) - . I mean the first should be at x:241 y:156 (it keeps the same trajectory of the previous circles like you did for 00:08:010 (4) - first part) while the second one should be at x:172 y:197 to make a triangle with previous circles like you did for 00:11:320 (4) - second part I just ctrl + G'd the last notes since I didn't want both of these patterns to be the exact same.
  2. 00:18:148 (3,4) - Stack these two elements for consistency with all next parts? I see no reason to keep this differently compared to the next patterns
  3. 00:24:768 (3,4) - What about starting this pattern on the same line of the previous 00:24:148 (2) - 's trajectory? It's smoother than the actual one imo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9087996
  4. 00:49:389 (6,1,2) - What about using an 1.30x spacing to be consistent with 01:00:148 (2,3,4) - ? It would be a nice idea imo I wanted to introduce the extra piano that starts to play in the background
  5. 01:15:044 (4) - I would move this some grid upward because it's reverse is covered by accuracy bar and it looks ugly www There's nothing necessarily wrong with it
  6. 01:16:285 (1,2) - Using the same distance spacing of 01:12:975 (1,2) - that is snapped as 1/4 for this 1/2 rhythm looks kinda unexptected and confusing: you could easy fix this by adding a circle at 01:16:906 because I can hear a vocal sound (so you don't have to destroy the pattern). Furthermore, why did you decide to increase SV on (1)? The vocal isn't that different than previous section imo There isn't a SV change on 1. Anyway, the 1/4 patterns all use smooth trajectories that flow into the next pattern and the 1/2 patterns use sort of anti jumps which are more than distinguishable imo. I used this idea throughout this section
  7. 01:18:768 (7,8) - Sudden change of spacing that is kinda confusing and questionable. You could stack the slider with (7) maybe? It ruins the emphasis on the finish though
  8. 01:20:423 (2) - Same of 01:16:285 (1,2) -. I don't get your decisions to make these sudden changes honestly TwT Mh.. I think best way to fix this is moving the slider further from previous element because adding a circle on the blue tick is not worth because I can't hear vocal there compared to the previous 01:16:285 (1,2) -I mentioned above As I said above, it's the gimmick I use which was introduced at the start. I think it's readable
  9. 01:29:527 (1,2) - ^ it applies here as well (I won't mention them anymore because it would make the mod post too long xD Well.. I guess you got what I mean so you can check them by yourself Same here
  10. 01:36:148 (1) - What about reducing it by 1/4 adding a circle on the blue tick? It would make it consistent with all other parts. It's kinda weird to see this longer slider placed there on the same section honestly xD
  11. 01:56:010 (1) - Same here: there is a sound on the red tick (1/4 earlier) that shouldn't be skipped imo same here 02:05:941 (1) - and so on, I won't mention again xP (They don't even follow the vocal because it ends 1/4 earlier sooo I don't understand TwT) It follows the vocals since it represents how the vocal is dragged
  12. 02:11:527 - There is a sound here in the music that should be clickable tbh What about adding a circle then? If you don't like the circle you could make an 1/4 slider with removing the 02:11:734 (5) - Hmm, the little sound here is barely audible
  13. 02:14:010 (3,4) - (nazi) These circles are actually not perfectly linear with previous slider's trajectory
  14. 02:45:251 (5) - It would be a nice idea if you placed this slider in this way to connect it better with previous and next slider instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9088089 just like you did with 02:55:182 (4) -
  15. 03:08:837 (1) - This slider's body is actually full covered by the previous one and it's actually unrankable since it appears too suddenly being stacked 1/4 from 03:07:182 (1)'s tail. I think it's very cool but it should be fixed orz Checked with a BN and they said it wasn't rankable, the slider path isn't exactly unreadable and it's pretty predictable
  16. 03:13:803 (4,5) - Wrong and confusing spacing: compared to the previous 1/2 this should be placed further from (4) because it's not 1/2 The vocals are pretty much whispers here, I wanted to represent that with the change in emphasis
  17. 03:47:734 (1,2) - I would switch NC here to warn about the new upcoming 1/4 sliders (instead than circles) and because of the clap sound placed at 03:47:837 (2) - (it will be even aesthetically better imo)
  18. 03:49:802 (5) - This could sound nazi but move the second waypoint a bit on the right without grid snap activated to make it linear with the previous stream Thanks nazi (jk xd)
  19. 03:52:492 (4) - Move this 1 grid down with distance snap activated so it's perfectly centered between 03:52:285 (3,1) -
  20. 04:14:320 (2,3) - I would reduce the spacing between these two to make it consistent with previous sliders (maybe you can make it x2.12 like 04:13:388 (1,2) - )
  21. 04:15:871 (9,9) - I would use NCs on these two to avoid this long combo section and it would be even consistent with 04:20:733 (8,1) - (This applies to the next streams as well of course) Tbh I think it's too many NCs
  22. 04:26:630 (1) - Move this circle further because it has the same spacing of 04:25:595 (7,1) - that is 1/4 while this circle is snapped 1/2 later
I like the kiai time very much honestly xP You did a great job there. The map is very well made because it fits very well with this kind of song and softpiano hitsounding you decided to use. But even if I say this I think you should really fix those rhythm/spacing issues I mentioned above because they actually make the map look messy/confusing/unflowing. I wish you good luck for the rank!
Thank you! Everything unmentioned was fixed :)
- Frontier -
m4mnice 05:00:509 draintime
[General]
  1. is countdown still necessary because it doesn't appear in gameplay?
  2. you might add "ost guitar" in tags, like in toybot's and lp's.
  3. where does color 5 from? i can't see any in bg.
[Forgotten Memory]
  1. 00:00:148 (1) - soft-hitfinish57 here might lead players to misclicked the other notes. (idk how to explain properly.) i think better to remove it. it's still great without this hs.
  2. 00:55:596 (5,6) - why these aren't the same as 00:42:354 (5) -? since they have the same rhythm and piano sounds.
  3. 01:12:975 (1,2) - lol why these aren't the same as before?
  4. 01:59:320 (1,2,3) and 02:02:630 (1,2,3,4) - hope this is diversity
  5. 02:36:768 (3) - this note doesn't have strong intense sound as the others. so why this a circle like the other ones? maybe try something like this to represents the song?
  6. 02:42:768 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - since the tone is decreasing, why don't you make the spacing smaller too? so that it would fit with the song.
  7. 03:13:803 (4) - maybe nc this note because the gap between 03:13:389 (3,4) - is different from the others.
  8. 03:28:492 (4,1) - i think they should be stacked like 03:27:665 (2,3) -, etc. do.
  9. 03:54:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i can't hear the significantly different sound here that makes these have different spacing.
why you mapped streams some parts while they are guitar thoughout the kiai part?
overall it is good. if you don't satisfy with my mod, you could rejected m4m.
gl~
Topic Starter
Aistre

- Frontier - wrote:

m4mnice 05:00:509 draintime
[General]
  1. is countdown still necessary because it doesn't appear in gameplay?
  2. you might add "ost guitar" in tags, like in toybot's and lp's.
  3. where does color 5 from? i can't see any in bg Neither is 6, they're there in the map to represent the contrast of the kiai.
[Forgotten Memory]
  1. 00:00:148 (1) - soft-hitfinish57 here might lead players to misclicked the other notes. (idk how to explain properly.) i think better to remove it. it's still great without this hs. I don't really think it's a problem, but I might change the finish anyway
  2. 00:55:596 (5,6) - why these aren't the same as 00:42:354 (5) -? since they have the same rhythm and piano sounds.
  3. 01:12:975 (1,2) - lol why these aren't the same as before?
  4. 01:59:320 (1,2,3) and 02:02:630 (1,2,3,4) - hope this is diversity ofc
  5. 02:36:768 (3) - this note doesn't have strong intense sound as the others. so why this a circle like the other ones? maybe try something like this to represents the song? I like what I have currently because it's exactly how the player would expect such a rhythm to be
  6. 02:42:768 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - since the tone is decreasing, why don't you make the spacing smaller too? so that it would fit with the song.
  7. 03:13:803 (4) - maybe nc this note because the gap between 03:13:389 (3,4) - is different from the others.
  8. 03:28:492 (4,1) - i think they should be stacked like 03:27:665 (2,3) -, etc. do. Eh the change in stacking notifies the start of the buildup
  9. 03:54:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i can't hear the significantly different sound here that makes these have different spacing. The vocals are increasing in intensity
why you mapped streams some parts while they are guitar thoughout the kiai part? Because it adds variety, and there's 4 sections to the kiai in rondo form.
overall it is good. if you don't satisfy with my mod, you could rejected m4m.
gl~
Thanks, everything unmentioned was fixed~
Lafayla
This map made me cry ::: to beautiful

Mod>
Forgotten Memory

00:32:837 (6,7) - during gameplay it looked like an ugly stack which contrasted the map but in editor it looks fine, so idk
04:14:526 - I guess this is what they mean when they say the star system is broken
04:16:492 - rip drum clap san
04:16:078 - same
03:35:320 - please try to find a place for nc along this stream, because of its broken star level a lot of less skilled players will be playing this, they can use the bonus hp of ncs
04:23:216 (16) - same
04:24:871 (16,1) - this angle is VERY TIGHT> seriously especially long streams this is the easiest way to miss
04:24:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - such a spaced stream is very difficult for many players, on its own it would be fine but its introduced right after a tight note stream
04:36:799 (2) - I would cut slider to 04:37:228 - and start new slider from 04:37:657 - to 04:38:085 - , I think it will be fine rhythm wise because later on you do 04:50:514 (2,3) - to emphasize both time stamps
05:01:826 - bookmark graveyard?

really daisuke this map +1 star
Topic Starter
Aistre

Lafayla wrote:

This map made me cry ::: to beautiful

Mod>
Forgotten Memory

00:32:837 (6,7) - during gameplay it looked like an ugly stack which contrasted the map but in editor it looks fine, so idk
04:14:526 - I guess this is what they mean when they say the star system is broken ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
04:16:492 - rip drum clap san hmm? There's a clap there
04:16:078 - same ^
03:35:320 - please try to find a place for nc along this stream, because of its broken star level a lot of less skilled players will be playing this, they can use the bonus hp of ncs Those sliders give a lot of HP on it's own, I think it's fine tbh
04:23:216 (16) - same And tbh the drain is less harsh due to the map mostly being very sparse in texture so the HP is accounted for that
04:24:871 (16,1) - this angle is VERY TIGHT> seriously especially long streams this is the easiest way to miss If you miss you need to git gud :^)
04:24:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - such a spaced stream is very difficult for many players, on its own it would be fine but its introduced right after a tight note stream The tight streams are introduced at 04:00:975 - , so it's not really a problem
04:36:799 (2) - I would cut slider to 04:37:228 - and start new slider from 04:37:657 - to 04:38:085 - , I think it will be fine rhythm wise because later on you do 04:50:514 (2,3) - to emphasize both time stamps I changed to two notes, should be fine now
05:01:826 - bookmark graveyard? yes rip

really daisuke this map +1 star
Thanks, unmentioned stuff was fixed :)
Deppyforce
m4m

00:00:148 (1) - this hitsound extends for too long imo try shorten it and make it end before 00:01:389 -
00:32:837 (6,7,1) - move this thing 1 px to the right so that 00:32:423 (5,6) - followpoint makes a straight y axis line
01:08:837 (6,7,1) - snt 7 -> 1 supposed to be bigger than 6 -> 7 also if u place 01:09:251 (7) - at ~x126 y273 would work better
02:05:734 - lets map this vocal!!!
02:36:561 (2,3,4,5) - drums arent being emphasized quite right here i would do this instead http://puu.sh/xObG8/ab98099bed.jpg
02:41:527 (3,4) - the jump is supposed to be at 3 and spacing decrease at 4 cuz the instument fade stuff imo
02:42:768 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - these sounds like fade out as well
03:08:837 (1,2) - 03:12:148 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - spot the difference! 2nd slider of the first timestamp isnt slowing down
04:01:388 (5,6,7,8) - while this is fine u sure u dont wanna do something like 03:54:768 (5) - here for drums?
04:20:837 (1) - remove nc
04:32:514 - 04:34:228 (3) - and more - wherse the keysounds lolol hitsound ruins this part pretty bAdly
Topic Starter
Aistre

Deppyforce wrote:

m4m

00:00:148 (1) - this hitsound extends for too long imo try shorten it and make it end before 00:01:389 -
00:32:837 (6,7,1) - move this thing 1 px to the right so that 00:32:423 (5,6) - followpoint makes a straight y axis line
01:08:837 (6,7,1) - snt 7 -> 1 supposed to be bigger than 6 -> 7 also if u place 01:09:251 (7) - at ~x126 y273 would work better
02:05:734 - lets map this vocal!!! no cuz she's extending her vocal and it doesn't feel right mapping it
02:36:561 (2,3,4,5) - drums arent being emphasized quite right here i would do this instead http://puu.sh/xObG8/ab98099bed.jpg
02:41:527 (3,4) - the jump is supposed to be at 3 and spacing decrease at 4 cuz the instument fade stuff imo I decreased the spacing a little so should make more sense
02:42:768 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - these sounds like fade out as well
03:08:837 (1,2) - 03:12:148 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - spot the difference! 2nd slider of the first timestamp isnt slowing down y u make me go through .osu reeee
04:01:388 (5,6,7,8) - while this is fine u sure u dont wanna do something like 03:54:768 (5) - here for drums?
04:20:837 (1) - remove nc Nah i think it's fine because it kinda represents the long streams after
04:32:514 - 04:34:228 (3) - and more - wherse the keysounds lolol hitsound ruins this part pretty bAdly really? I was focusing on the right hand of the piano
Thanks for mod, unmentioned = fix <3
Lasse
first two combo colors should at least be a bit brighter, they look really bad with 100% dim
do something about sliderticks like 00:39:044 - 01:45:251 - 02:38:216 - 03:08:010 - being way too loud, like using half volume on them/making sure they are all set to soft

00:49:803 (1,2,3) - https://i.imgur.com/v7mYNnY.jpg would make more sense with piano and vocals, current additional click seems unfitting
01:04:285 - whistle
01:28:699 (6,1) - same shape on both would look much cleaner
01:31:182 (1,2) - clicking the transition in rhythm would be nicer to play and fit better, like https://i.imgur.com/cvzLrg3.jpg
02:19:182 (1) - would be nicer to end on red tick since vocal isn't held for long and piano on that
02:32:423 (1) - similar here, since 02:33:251 - lands on piano and all, tail on red tick would be nice
03:18:768 - looks like a colorhax mistake?
04:03:457 (1,2,3) - looks really off with stacking https://i.imgur.com/kLjxH1o.jpg
04:13:388 (1,2) - with how you hitsounded something like https://i.imgur.com/08wIHuK.jpg would fit better, also suddenly having such low clicking density kills the overall intensity imo
04:18:768 (2,3) - for these I don't even get what you follow since they don't really start on emphasized drums or vocals? could give something like https://i.imgur.com/6eZ6UKR.jpg or similar a try I think
04:20:837 (1) - yea suddenly holding for 8/1 is a bit unfitting with your 1/4 spam in this part
04:25:388 (5) - would look so much better with nc
04:26:009 - aa why is the most outstanding thing suddenly a tail? https://i.imgur.com/CdVSJdG.jpg would be nice

map looks okay overall, even if i don't really like some of the extended slider stuff used early in the map lol
I'm fine with bubbling if you can address the stream rhythm things
Topic Starter
Aistre

Lasse wrote:

first two combo colors should at least be a bit brighter, they look really bad with 100% dim
do something about sliderticks like 00:39:044 - 01:45:251 - 02:38:216 - 03:08:010 - being way too loud, like using half volume on them/making sure they are all set to soft Fixed

00:49:803 (1,2,3) - https://i.imgur.com/v7mYNnY.jpg would make more sense with piano and vocals, current additional click seems unfitting Changed
01:04:285 - whistle Ye
01:28:699 (6,1) - same shape on both would look much cleaner Hmm, I used different sliders to represent the change in pitch. It sounds more intense than previously
01:31:182 (1,2) - clicking the transition in rhythm would be nicer to play and fit better, like https://i.imgur.com/cvzLrg3.jpg I like it, changed
02:19:182 (1) - would be nicer to end on red tick since vocal isn't held for long and piano on that
02:32:423 (1) - similar here, since 02:33:251 - lands on piano and all, tail on red tick would be nice Done both
03:18:768 - looks like a colorhax mistake? rip
04:03:457 (1,2,3) - looks really off with stacking https://i.imgur.com/kLjxH1o.jpg
04:13:388 (1,2) - with how you hitsounded something like https://i.imgur.com/08wIHuK.jpg would fit better, also suddenly having such low clicking density kills the overall intensity imo
04:18:768 (2,3) - for these I don't even get what you follow since they don't really start on emphasized drums or vocals? could give something like https://i.imgur.com/6eZ6UKR.jpg or similar a try I think
04:20:837 (1) - yea suddenly holding for 8/1 is a bit unfitting with your 1/4 spam in this part Fixed this and all of the above
04:25:388 (5) - would look so much better with nc
04:26:009 - aa why is the most outstanding thing suddenly a tail? https://i.imgur.com/CdVSJdG.jpg would be nice Changed

map looks okay overall, even if i don't really like some of the extended slider stuff used early in the map lol
I'm fine with bubbling if you can address the stream rhythm things The things you picked up should be changed now
Thanks, the stuff i didn't mention were fixed (replies probably a little messy cuz i'm tired)
Lasse
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Mir
for the love of all that is holy don't keysound hitnormals it just doesn't give appropriate feedback

Get some sort of addition to go over it at the very least but don't leave it with such barebones feedback like that. I think it would be best to switch the keysounds to whistles instead since at some areas it feels very awkward to sudden have the default hitnormal pop up for no reason and gives somewhat surprising feedback.

Forgotten Memory
- 00:38:216 (1) - Could end on the white before this since it would leave a more recognizable gap. The singer also takes a breath afterwards as well as a soft piano note on white.
- 01:18:975 (7) - Could be emphasized way more compared to jumps like 01:21:044 (3,4) - lol
- 02:56:423 (2,3) - Stacking 3 under 2's end would be nice emphasis for that abrupt pause the flute I think does?
- 04:14:940 (7,1,2) - Could stand out a lot more I think.. it builds up so much and there's like no emphasis on this climax. Something like 04:24:871 (16,1,2) - might work?

Call me back when you've addressed these.
Topic Starter
Aistre

Mir wrote:

for the love of all that is holy don't keysound hitnormals it just doesn't give appropriate feedback

Get some sort of addition to go over it at the very least but don't leave it with such barebones feedback like that. I think it would be best to switch the keysounds to whistles instead since at some areas it feels very awkward to sudden have the default hitnormal pop up for no reason and gives somewhat surprising feedback.

Forgotten Memory
- 00:38:216 (1) - Could end on the white before this since it would leave a more recognizable gap. The singer also takes a breath afterwards as well as a soft piano note on white.
- 01:18:975 (7) - Could be emphasized way more compared to jumps like 01:21:044 (3,4) - lol
- 02:56:423 (2,3) - Stacking 3 under 2's end would be nice emphasis for that abrupt pause the flute I think does?
- 04:14:940 (7,1,2) - Could stand out a lot more I think.. it builds up so much and there's like no emphasis on this climax. Something like 04:24:871 (16,1,2) - might work?

Call me back when you've addressed these.
Changed everything, thanks
Mir
Since files changed, going to rebubble this.

Metadata: http://www.denkare.net/archives/audio/album-x

Catlogs:
SPOILER
18:23 Alphabet: Is there an easier way of changing the keysounds to whistles and copypasting the hitnormal for each custom number?
18:24 Mir: nope
18:24 Mir: i don't think so
18:24 Mir: you have to manually redo all the files :l
18:25 Alphabet: I hope editor v2 does something about that
18:26 Mir: me too
18:30 Alphabet: Alright, I changed everything
18:31 Alphabet: But the keysounds are like barely audible ;x
18:55 Alphabet: If you bubble I'll need to get Lasse to nominate again right?
18:55 Mir: yeah
18:55 Mir: if the keysounds are barely audible then uh
18:55 Mir: rip
18:56 Mir: raise them?
18:56 Alphabet: the hitnormal drowns out the keysounds, I think i'm gonna need to make the wav quieter
18:56 Mir: that's also an option
18:57 Alphabet: eek
18:57 Alphabet: aight one sec
19:12 Alphabet: wait why do pops give 5sr lol
19:14 Mir: i don't think they do
19:16 Alphabet: It went from +17sp to 23
19:16 Mir: that's 6sr thonk
19:16 Alphabet: i gave kds t you
19:16 Alphabet: to*
19:16 Mir: idk what happened
19:16 Mir: but you're done?
19:17 Alphabet: Yeah
19:17 Mir: alright hold on
19:17 Alphabet: ks is audible
19:20 Mir: 00:00:148 - missing a ks
19:21 Alphabet: Nah it's there
19:21 Mir: im not hearing anything
19:21 Mir: it's just a whistle
19:21 Alphabet: Did you redl
19:21 Mir: nvm im actually deaf
19:22 Mir: 02:56:423 (2,3,1) - you didn't do this thing
19:22 Alphabet: i uploaded that change wtf
19:26 Mir: do you have metadata somewhere
19:27 Alphabet: I think venix's mod has metadata source
19:27 Alphabet: http://www.denkare.net/archives/audio/album-x
19:28 Mir: alright
19:28 Alphabet: track 13

Alright lets get this back on track and next time don't keysound hitnormals pls :3c
Lasse
qualified
Topic Starter
Aistre
Thanks <3
Shmiklak
Lama Poluna
why you check metadata 2 times if this song already rank?
also gratz
Topic Starter
Aistre

Lama Poluna wrote:

why you check metadata 2 times if this song already rank?
also gratz
Last time i copied metadata from a ranked map it got dq'd because of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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