OscarRickyH02 wrote:

Disclaimer
first, obviously, i am a noob mapper so dont expect good mod
second, i dont like underrated map and i really like overrated map, so when i went to ancul's gd i see a lot of minijacks and unsightreadable sv (i am new on sv so i dont guarantee that if i mod the sv it could be better)
last, i just interested to see harder diff (approx 4* upward) since i dont play lower diff. If I mod them, it could be worse

anyway i assume this map is going to rank
as usual, no kds if this mod is pointless

lets go
1|2|3|4

MX lv 19

sv: sv are good already, but some unexpected slow jam is actually unnecessary

notes:
00:48:561 (48561|0,48561|2,48636|1,48636|3,48711|2,48711|0,48786|3,48786|1,48861|0,48861|2,48936|1,48936|3,49011|2,49011|0,49086|1,49086|3,49161|0,49161|2,49236|1,49236|3) - i think this could be better with 12 34 12 34 pattern for good transition
other i think is A-OK

im sorry if my mod is too offensive
goodluck

OscarRickyH02 wrote:

umm, lets see this one > (1,75*1*1/8 + 0,67*3*1/8)/ (1/2) = 0,9375 (slow jam)

Rivals_7 wrote:

1234
non explanation mod are related to pitch / hand balance


[Anatowjiya's N]

00:25:236 (25236|0,25386|1,25536|2,25686|3) - hmm why is this not formed in trill anymore? Done

00:34:236 (34236|3) - think you can delete this as it is not a kick? pretty awkward since the other notes follow obvious kick Deleted

00:59:736 (59736|2) - should be on 4 for stacking consistency - 01:00:036 (60036|1,60336|1) - Moved

01:24:636 (84636|0,84636|3) - why the double suddenly have two notes? Deleted

01:25:836 (85836|1,85836|0) - ^ Deleted
etc
while i know its the last kiai but it isnt consistent with - 01:19:836 (79836|3) - etc Done (should be done right D:)


01:49:386 (109386|2) - to 2. Done



01:51:036 (111036|2,111636|1) - i'd rather see this an LN tho Done



01:53:736 (113736|3) - shift 1/4 below to blue Done


might come to this later after Hitsound thing is addressed

Rivals_7 wrote:

1234
non explanation mod are related to pitch / hand balance

first of all. check all the HS inconsistency across all diff

becus yea i dont want to deal with inconsistent hitsounds all the time and i dont rly want to mention it all xd | All fixed :^)

[E]

00:37:836 (37836|1) - to 1

00:40:236 (40236|2,40536|1) - 1|4

00:40:236 (40236|2,40536|1,63336|0,63636|2) - nggh pls check snapping in higher diffs
or simply just use double LN or smth to avoid issues of high snap usage in easy diff | Deleted and added 2 LNs for red lines

[H]

00:05:886 (5886|0,6186|2,6336|1) - idk whats this tho. looks inconsistent with the other LN you're trying to layer | It's guitar. But there are little amount of LNs I think that it's for MX probably, so I'll remove them there and add some in next diff

00:34:086 (34086|1) - not sure is this even worth to layer. cant barely heard anything besides the fade out noise | Yeah, "extra" note. Deleted

01:31:461 - I assume you forget to add notes? refer the pattern like this before

01:36:261 -^ prolly etc | No, it's all okay. In these sections there are very quiet sound. In previous similar sections sounds are more louder (louder than quiet lol)

01:39:186 (99186|1) - different density with - 01:38:736 (98736|3,98736|2) - ? | Oh, missing note

01:43:536 (103536|1) - would probably dlete this to avoid confusion of being the kick roll because there's no kick there | Accepted

[I]

00:22:986 (22986|0) - i think this is quite unecessary, if you focus how you do the LN layering since the start of kiai, you know why.

01:26:736 (86736|2,86736|0,86736|1,86736|3) - this looks too much imo | I screamed

Rivals_7 wrote:

slightly more serious mod


[Slightly harder by anatowjiya]

00:02:586 (2586|2,2736|1) - swap. the triple stack on 3 is quite eh Done

00:03:936 (3936|3,4236|3,4536|3,4836|3) - dunno uh anchor is kinda eh as well. think you can rearrange this Done

00:06:336 (6336|1,6486|0,6636|1,6786|2) - 1|2|3|2 respectively. again to minimalize the triple stack on 2 Done

00:09:336 (9336|2,9486|3,9636|2,9786|1,9936|3) - 4|3|2|1|2 respectively. minimalize stacks - 00:09:036 (9036|2,9336|2,9636|2) - and unbalance - 00:09:936 (9936|3,10086|2,10236|3) - Done

00:51:636 (51636|3) - hmmh think you can extend? apparently all the other diff uses 2/1 LN. just to avoid issues Done

01:03:373 (63373|3,63486|2,63598|3) - uhhh pls dont OH trill. think you can rearrange this somewhere else Done

01:08:436 (68436|0,68586|1,68736|3,68886|0) - i actually didnt heard anything special besides the burst one, which is kinda odd since its already covered by the LN. simply delete that Deleted

01:27:186 - not sure if this is intended but refer here - 00:19:836 (19836|0,19986|3) - Made as on refered point

01:38:886 (98886|0) - sounds too low to actually get layered so would delete to focus on the main instrument Deleted

01:43:686 (103686|2,103986|1) - 2|4 flows better imo Done

01:57:336 (117336|0) - uh non existant noise here Deleted

Rivals_7 wrote:

[AiAe but its 200 BPM and has SVs by Ancul]

00:34:686 (34686|0,34686|1,34761|0,34761|1,34836|1,34836|0) - so how do you actually get this though, i mean 200 BPM triple jumpjacks? tbh would delete - 00:34:686 (34686|3) - as that first triples share the same vol as the double there. most people are relatively stronger on midfing jacking so moving - 00:34:836 (34836|1) - to 3 (if you actually delete that note i've mentioned before) will do much better I edited the first set of notes to be a jump. triple jacks instead of two are used to give more feedback on this particular part because song-wise it is more powerful. i also don't know if people are better jacking on mid finger because i jack better on index lmao i think it's fair

00:36:186 (36186|2,36186|1,36186|0) - so i realize its actually occurs across the diff so my point above should actually covers everything
mostly to avoid it being too overmapped in general I'm gonna keep the layering of hands on 1/2s and jumps on 1/4s.

00:43:086 (43086|1,43086|3,43086|2,43086|0,43536|2,43536|0,43536|1,43536|3) - these are snare i'm pretty sure. its different than the usage of quads before which is for crash - 00:42:636 (42636|2,42636|0,42636|1,42636|3) - tbf i used quads for the synth stuff, plus using quads is more noticable when playing than the usage of hands

00:45:036 (45036|2) - like i said before people are relatively stronger with midfing jacking so would move it to 2 for better handling read the first one

01:14:836 (74836|1,74836|0,74936|0,74936|1) - i believe this is should be 1/12 later. the layering is kinda eh too since you mapped both guitar and percussion apparently fuck it. i'm nerfing this 1/6 thing

01:38:886 (98886|1) - would delete. see other diff for explanation deleting this note would cause a 1/1 empty space which i don't want because i don't think it'll play better

Rivals_7 wrote:

slightly more serious mod

[The easy one]

00:15:036 (15036|0) - this entire measure is kinda unbalanced imo. since you have to light jacking then hold the LN in the same hand. so would suggest to swap both - 00:15:636 (15636|1,15936|2) - and - 00:16:536 (16536|2,16836|1) - | Accepted. Yeah, it's more balanced

00:24:636 (24636|3,24936|3,25236|2) - similar

00:28:236 (28236|0,28536|3) - swap places. you see that 1/1 OH trill - 00:28:536 (28536|3,28836|2,29136|3) - doesnt look promising to hit by newbies | Hmm. It's relative Accepted btw

00:37:536 (37536|2,37836|1) - 1|3 would flow much better

00:39:486 (39486|2,39936|3,40236|2) - not a fan of this tbh. its because you need to hold 2 LNs in a row plus a note with 1/1 distance between the LN in 200 BPM. making the movement are kinda odd. so would move that single note to 1

00:47:436 (47436|3,49086|2) - area between these notes. not sure i should be triggerred or not but the entire kick rythm come at 3/8 which is slightly high to be implemented to the easy diff. would just delete - 00:47:736 (47736|0,48186|3,48786|1) - these guys since they are not basically in correct snaps

00:49:086 (49086|2,49236|3,49536|2) - slightly almost the same. would move that shorter LNs on 3 to col 1 instead

00:51:636 (51636|2) - doesnt seem to be a strong sound in particular so just delete that

00:54:036 (54036|0,54336|3) - delete these too. resemble the previous rythm usage - 00:51:636 (51636|0) -

01:03:336 (63336|0,63636|2) - again the kicks come at 3/8 making the notes arent simply accurate to the instrument. simply delete that and make - 01:03:036 (63036|1,63936|3) - an LN to cover the 3/8 kicks instead

01:23:136 (83136|1) - not rly sure i heard additional special noise rather than a snare stream. would delete this for rhythm simplicty

01:32:736 (92736|2) - same. it'd be nice to focus on the main foreground noise instead | It's right way to delete them I think. Also same notes are removed from the first kiai part

01:50:586 (110586|3) - i cant barely heard the melody you trying to made like the other single notes here. if you agree to delete that, then move - 01:50:736 (110736|0) - to 4 | Well, I don't know how to explain in English my decision to put this note here lol, but this note useless anyway. Accepted~

01:54:636 (114636|3) - so i have an idea for the last 2 measures

rather than doing a triplet, why not just follow the melody rythm? which is basically more hearable tho it doesnt seem really approachable for newbies. | I didn't hear it tbh Okay, let's try this variant
All accepted ~

[Even harder]

00:15:186 (15186|2,15336|1) - Move Left. keep things balanced

00:34:086 (34086|1) - would delete. no emphasis could be hearded around here anyways | lol wtf. I remember that I already deleted it since your last mod

00:42:036 (42036|0,42111|1,42186|0,42261|1) - ngh balance them outtt. swap - 00:42:261 (42261|1,42336|2) -

00:46:836 (46836|2) - triple stack in the right and OH trill on the left :thinking: just do this instead


01:11:661 (71661|2,71736|3,71811|2) - 01:13:386 (73386|0,73461|1,73536|0) - avoid OH minitrill inside a stream pls | PIU is affects on my mapping style

01:26:661 - forget a note? | Yes, there I really forget

01:38:886 (98886|0) - same explanation as Normal

01:39:411 (99411|0) - pretty sure it'll works better if its short notes. see MX

01:52:761 (112761|2,112836|1,112911|2) - 2|3|4 to avoid right hand minitrill

01:56:961 (116961|0,117036|2) - would swap places becus trill xd

All accepted too
Also 01:52:236 (112236|3) - changed to short note

[Red icon thing]

00:19:936 (19936|2) - no sound here | :moonface: It's veeeery quiet, but it would be better if delete it, yes. Accepted

00:47:661 (47661|3,47773|2,47773|3,47886|2) - the fact that every jacks exist around here isnot occured 2 times in the same hand in a row, so would rearrange this somehow

00:56:736 (56736|2,56886|3) - this should be the one which stacked. refer - 00:55:536 (55536|2,55686|2) -

01:01:686 (61686|3) - uh pretty sure the guita start at - 01:01:536 - | This LN follows another sound, but it's more better, yes

01:26:661 - forgot a note? | Yes ;_;

01:31:836 - how about https://puu.sh/wPgZF/668cb0a184.png
well the anchor on 4 is kinda makes everything heavier on right hand so this will at least balance things out

01:38:886 (98886|1) - same as other diffs

01:39:036 (99036|3) - think you can add a note here for strong sound

01:43:086 (103086|1) - ^

01:44:848 (104848|1,104886|0) - uh whats this even? | L O L. No comments I don't remember what I smoked atm

AncuL wrote:

Rivals_7 wrote:

[AiAe but its 200 BPM and has SVs by Ancul]

00:34:686 (34686|0,34686|1,34761|0,34761|1,34836|1,34836|0) - so how do you actually get this though, i mean 200 BPM triple jumpjacks? tbh would delete - 00:34:686 (34686|3) - as that first triples share the same vol as the double there. most people are relatively stronger on midfing jacking so moving - 00:34:836 (34836|1) - to 3 (if you actually delete that note i've mentioned before) will do much better I edited the first set of notes to be a jump. triple jacks instead of two are used to give more feedback on this particular part because song-wise it is more powerful. i also don't know if people are better jacking on mid finger because i jack better on index lmao i think it's fair

00:36:186 (36186|2,36186|1,36186|0) - so i realize its actually occurs across the diff so my point above should actually covers everything
mostly to avoid it being too overmapped in general I'm gonna keep the layering of hands on 1/2s and jumps on 1/4s.

00:43:086 (43086|1,43086|3,43086|2,43086|0,43536|2,43536|0,43536|1,43536|3) - these are snare i'm pretty sure. its different than the usage of quads before which is for crash - 00:42:636 (42636|2,42636|0,42636|1,42636|3) - tbf i used quads for the synth stuff, plus using quads is more noticable when playing than the usage of hands

00:45:036 (45036|2) - like i said before people are relatively stronger with midfing jacking so would move it to 2 for better handling read the first one

01:14:836 (74836|1,74836|0,74936|0,74936|1) - i believe this is should be 1/12 later. the layering is kinda eh too since you mapped both guitar and percussion apparently fuck it. i'm nerfing this 1/6 thing

01:38:886 (98886|1) - would delete. see other diff for explanation deleting this note would cause a 1/1 empty space which i don't want because i don't think it'll play better

01:15:936 (75936|0,75936|1,75936|2,75986|3,76036|2,76086|1,76086|0,76136|3,76186|2) - i also made this, which was 1/4. so if you want to recheck make sure to take a look at this to see if it's appropriate

AncuL's EX Lv.24 (Don't forget to change the metadata stuff)

kloi34 wrote:

Quick fix: On the MX difficulty @ 00:18:636 (18636|0) - there is a note hidden under the end of the slider. Delete the hidden note and add back the 'clap' hitsound onto the other note.

Rivals_7 wrote:

do you have any reference to this song? i think i saw you change the source and would like to know where you get that

Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

-Kamikaze- wrote:

00:20:536 (20536|1) - No drum on this note tbh so delete it errr don't you think it'll play weird with this deleted

Also the bump SVs are not strong enough imo, they're just like half as annoying as I'd expect from this song. i never expected it to be annoying lol. it's just there to visually make sense and fuck im lazy
I really like this song and I like the concepts you've made for the most part but it's not ready yet imo, good luck anyway bros <3

Hydria wrote:

this was sent to me in a modding queue 3 days ago despite being bubbled for 2 months but im not the one to question things i just tell you what you've done wrong because i think it's not ready for ranking duh

1/2/3/4

AncuL's EX Lv.24

cool 1/6 sounds 00:12:236 - 00:12:286 - that are ignored, same 00:17:036 - 00:17:086 - etc too inaudible

00:19:461 (19461|0) - there is no sound on 1/4 it is 1/6s the click thing

i need reasoning for why 00:43:086 (43086|1,43086|0,43086|2,43086|3,43536|0,43536|3,43536|1,43536|2) - are quads (00:42:636 (42636|2,42636|3,42636|0,42636|1) - is fine it has more instruments linked to it than the other two) because it's 1/3 and it gives more epic feeling if quads

01:06:111 (66111|3,66261|2,66261|3) - why are these different densities 01:06:186 (66186|0,66186|1,66261|3,66261|2,66336|1,66336|3,66336|0) - is made similiar to the previous parts (01:05:886 (65886|2,65886|0,65961|1,65961|3,66036|0,66036|2,66036|1) - )

from 01:09:111 - to 01:13:761 - i want reasons for each individual triple in there that isn't "i wanted to make it as dense as possible" geez i don't really know

same goes with 01:15:261 (75261|2,75261|1,75261|0) - 01:15:486 (75486|3,75486|2,75486|0) - 01:15:936 (75936|0,75936|1,75936|2) - each of them is placed on every 3/4 that doesn't have double before and after it

01:18:636 - just repeat what i said earlier (00:11:436 - to 00:29:436 - )

01:36:936 (96936|3,97011|1) - they start 1/8 later (ironic since you put them too late last time)

01:49:836 - until 01:50:961 - none of these triples make sense to me it's linked with the synth thing

01:51:336 (111336|3) - move to 3

01:51:936 (111936|0) - move to 4 it's been changed in some way on kami's mod

01:52:236 (112236|0,112236|3) - why is this not a triple considering the future related patterns are (or well some of them are, there's inconsistency everywhere)

good luck and all that stuff i guess

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Ok so first off the hitsounds are blending with the song too much, there's not much diffrence between 100 an 0% effect volume and that's unrankable. Raising the volume significantly should work well.

Hitsounds from notes and sliders must be audible. These provide feedback for the player, and having them silent in a rhythm game doesn't make much sense. If you don't like the default sounds, then find replacements rather than silencing notes. You can use hitsounds from the Custom Hitsound Library or easily find others online. Lowering the volume of a few notes to provide a dampened effect is usually fine, but complete silence is always unacceptable. The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

Rivals_7 wrote:

[MX]

00:20:836 (20836|2,20886|0) - this one doesnt seem to be like the others - 00:20:086 (20086|1,20136|0,20236|2,20286|3,20386|1,20436|0,20536|3,20586|2,20686|0,20736|1) - | Rightfully, moved to 3 and 4

00:25:761 (25761|0,25836|1,25836|0,25986|1) - have nothing against split jt but this is the one that making the transition a little bit....weird. i would move - 00:25:986 (25986|1,26136|3) - to 4|2 respectively but up to you | I agree. It's better than weird jack despite the overabundance of notes on 4th column

01:01:911 - i cant seem to understand why the SV even starting here. it creates some weird looking slowjams. why dont you just using usual 1,5 -> 0,5 thing?

01:03:036 - i'm thinking it like this http://puu.sh/yR76T/f16d259bde.png

01:40:911 - http://puu.sh/yR7t7/55edeb0e51.png so the jack kinda mirroring - 01:43:611 (103611|0,103611|1,103686|1,103686|0) - and avoid being the same - 01:44:436 (104436|1,104436|2,104511|2,104511|1) - | Oh, it's really good, we don't have 1|4 only

I look at SVs and see Twist of Fate S18/D20 I'm kinda ill