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Mirash
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2 сентября 2017 г. at 21:23:15

Artist: zts
Title: miragecoordinator
Source: うみねこのなく頃に
Tags: jounzan evilelvis v2 code zts label musicbox red czl umineko no naku koro ni marathon visual novel vn 07th expansion
BPM: 150
Filesize: 8519kb
Play Time: 05:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (4,51 stars, 1216 notes)
  2. Perversion (4,58 stars, 1286 notes)
Download: zts - miragecoordinator
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Perversion and sb by Jounzan
Hectic
Прив

Insane:
  1. 00:27:409 - мне нравятся быстрые слайдеры, но во время игры это практически невозможно предугадать. Я терял комбо практически на каждой хай-св секции этой дифы, было бы круто если бы игроку давалась какая-то подсказка (комбо колор например)
  2. 00:29:009 (1) - этот момент было бы круто почеркнуть таким флоу
  3. 00:52:709 (6,7,8,1,2) - это как-то выбивается внешне из всего стрима. Хотя может так и надо
  4. 00:54:209 (1,1) - ты же вроде стакаешь обычно конец продленного слайдера с тем что после него (за исключением особых случаев, этот особый разве?)
  5. 01:51:409 (4,5) - это как-то неловко
  6. 02:01:509 - лучше клик?
  7. 02:33:209 (6,7) - это выглядит так, будто тебе просто не хватило места
  8. 02:39:009 (2,3,4,5) - какая-то необоснованная непостоянность в спейсинге, я читал как двойки
  9. 02:42:609 (1,1) - можно покрасивее
  10. 02:45:809 (1,2,3) - попробуй (1) сделать 1/2 а (2) и (3) стакнутую двойку. По-моему прикольно, звуки на (2) и (3) лучше чувствуются
  11. 02:52:609 (1,1,1) - точно нк? Я не замисридил кое-как
  12. 02:53:409 (1,2) - странно что (2) стакнут с (1) ибо таким образом кажется, что между звуками, которые показывают эти объекты есть связь, хотя на самом деле её нет. И на (2) нк думаю стоит
  13. 03:23:609 (1,2,3,4) - охренеть сложно
  14. 03:28:609 (3,4) - может лучше конец (3) поближе к началу (4)?
  15. 03:46:209 (3) - нк? тут звук сильный
  16. 03:55:809 (9) - уж логичнее чтобы стрим отсюда начинался
  17. 04:36:809 (2,3,4,5) - может сделаешь тут так же как 01:06:809 (2,3,4,5) - ?
  18. 04:49:109 (6,7) - зач стакать
  19. 05:21:409 (6,7) - ^
Perversion:
  1. 00:15:408 (1,2,3,4,1) - странный момент. 00:16:008 - тут нет звука, но реверс, 00:15:808 (4) - тут нк бы ибо кики становятся громче (саджесшн)
  2. 00:40:208 (1,2) - я готов поклясться что эти парочки не параллельны и разница между ними какой-нибудь 1 градус или типа того, плиз параллельно, или лучше вообще сделать разницу в углах еще больше, ибо звуки к этому располагают (этот момент в сб довольно-таки смешной, ибо звуков 4, и на третьем в сб просто пустота, лучше бы просто типа на 00:41:008 (1,2) - этих моментах было бы то же, что и на 00:40:208 (1,2) - )
  3. 01:20:008 (2) - лучше бы его куда-нибудь вправо, не стакать с (1)
  4. 02:01:508 - то же самое что и к прошлой дифе (было бы круто ультра-быстрый слайдер, который достаточно просто нажать и не вести чтобы получить 300)
  5. 02:15:208 (4,5) - meh, можно же избежать такого спейсинга
  6. 02:46:608 (4) - нк пожалуйста
  7. 03:21:808 (7,8) - спейсинг
  8. 04:23:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - слишком непривычный флоу для этой карты
Надеюсь чем-нибудь помог. Удачи!
vanucik
аимод
первый и второй колор кажутся мне слишком темными, особенно это заметно в твоей дифе на 00:09:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

jounsan


00:24:808 (6,7,8,9) - , 00:26:408 (7,8,9,10) - , 00:28:008 (4,5,6,7) - , если ты предыдущий парт делал двойки более различимыми, то тут ты делаешь наоборот, не понимаю твоей логики, по идее должно быть всё больше расстояния внутри двоек, да и я бы тогда лучше это прочитал типа http://puu.sh/x90pU/10643444c1.jpg или http://puu.sh/x90qB/954486080e.jpg
01:19:208 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - прожал как двойки
тебе не кажется что начиная отсюда 01:33:408 - , у тебя слишком спейсанутые ноты, парт вроде не такой отличающийся, а спейс больше всех
02:15:008 (3,4,5) - одинаковое расстояние сделай
02:51:608 (3,1) - из-за такого спейса очень сложно прочитать некст реверсы
02:52:208 (1) - а какой звук этот реверс фоловит? если уж ставить, то на красный тик 1\6

mirash


00:14:609 (1) - зачем
00:39:509 (2) - убери типа ритм чтобы норм был как в прошлом паттерне
00:53:809 (1,1) - переборщил
01:18:609 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - зачем так уродливо делать, можешь и лучше
04:23:809 (1) - вправо его

боринг
Trynna
my #400 goes for u
Dubturt
hi i suck at modding so sorry in advance

[General]

  1. rip sb
  2. some conflicts from elvis's diff
[Insane]

  1. you have an unsnapped object check AiMod
  2. 00:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - idk the hitsounds here puts me off a bit, should it be like 00:06:209 (1,2,3,4,5) in terms of hitsounding? idk i suck at hs
  3. 00:18:409 (1,2) - might want to distance 2 from 1 a bit?
  4. 00:52:809 (7,8,1,2) - uh why thispart of streams are straight-ish? when the stream here goes curvy
  5. 01:37:609 (4) - maybe confusing?
  6. 02:32:809 (4,5,6,7) - distance of 7?
  7. 03:47:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why not make it an equilateral square?
  8. 04:00:609 (1,1) - uh distance the overlap a bit like the others?
i cant mod elvis's diff :? im having hard time sorry
Alisia
Hi! I'm here from my modding que.

Insane
There are many places that do not match with music between 00:29:009
01:18:609 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) These ignore songs. It is necessary to match with the song.
03:03:609 (2,3,4) Should be a 1/6 slider.

Your map has overmap a lot. This is not a good thing to fix.

Good Luck!
Suissie
Hello there

both pretty nice maps. Im sry that mods aren't that long. Im not rly good at modding.

[Insane]
Check AiMod-chan B)
You might wanna use same spacing here 00:36:809 (4,1) - as in there 00:36:809 (4,1) - and there 00:36:009 (4,1) -
01:50:409 (1,2,3) - looks better imo02:27:409 (3,4) - its not properly aligned.
In case you wanted to make a diamond pattern it needs to be fixed. 04:35:809 (1,2,3,4) - 04:42:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I mean I rly like reading stuff but most of the map isn't that hard to read tbh and maybe you could find a way to make it a bit easier to read to be more consistent. Not sure tho because its well mapped :/
04:50:209 (1,2) - why is this spaced while this 04:56:609 (1,2) - is not ?
01:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ok that pattern is more problematic to read tbh. But I let you think about it.
01:58:609 (1,1) - maybe try to indicate better that this slider is going to be rly slow with special combo color or whatever.
02:29:609 (4) - that flow feels kinda weird because the music doesn't sound too special there and that movement doesn't reflect it good imo. Would keep the linear flow. not sure tho
03:37:209 (4,1) - I dont get why you change flow direction there but not there 03:38:009 (4,1) -
04:40:609 (1) - you could give more emphasize on it by moving it a bit up like this
[Perversion]

idk but modding maps from your favorite mapper is kinda hard :s

00:15:408 - can you maybe make this a bit easier to read. its kinda cancer xd. maybe like this 02:38:608 (7) - I think this would look nicer
PandaHero
Аймод проверь, у вас оффсеты слегка разные (3409 у тебя и 3408 у Элвиса). Из-за этого и превью тайм разный.


[Insane]
Наспамила бы софт вистлом в начале под пианино (до первой закладки), а то как-то пусто что ли звучит.
00:06:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - судя по тому как ты это хитсаундишь может показаться, что 2 тут и не нужна совсем, может на неё тоже нормал семплсет влепить? Ну или убрать её совсем
00:14:409 (8,1) - ты всегда делал больше спейсинга на звук, который под 1, но тут почему-то не сделал, хм
00:15:809 (1,1) - а может всё-таки лучше не оверлапать? Подвинь её наверх куда-нибудь
00:20:209 (3) - нк может поставишь?
00:31:409 (3) - и сюда
01:05:009 (3,1) - а по-моему если свапнуть тут нк, и ещё поставить поставить сюда - 01:05:809 (2), будет больше подходит по звуку. Типа звуки на 3 и 2 сильнее, чем на 1.
01:07:409 (7) - ну и сюда бы поставила (сорри за мод про нк >_<)
01:09:809 (4,5) - а я бы уменьшила тут спейсинг, не такой уж и сильный на 5 звук, чтобы её так далеко ставить
01:33:009 (1) - о, а может тут серые цвета комбо под сториборд сделаете?
01:52:209 (3,4,5) - вот эта штука не очень красиво выглядит без нк на 5, может поставишь? И на 7 наверное ещё можно
01:56:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - отодвинь её от предыдущей такой же штуки что ли, на 1 такой звук сочный
02:01:009 (1) - не могу понять под какой звук ты его ставил и почему закончил именно на голубом тике
02:05:809 (3,4,5) - вот эта штука по ритму лучше, чем эта - 02:02:409 (4,5), может сделаешь там что-нибудь подобное?
02:33:609 - кажется тут тоже есть пианино, просто оно тихое
02:39:009 (2,3,4,5) - спутала их с двоечками сначала, раздвинь их, пожалуйста
02:52:609 (1,1,1) - а тут обязательно спамить нк, это твой хитрый план? оО
03:01:009 (5) - ааааа, хп уходит, поставь нк
05:23:009 (5) - нк, а то фоллоу пойнт некрасивый х)

У Элвиса нормально всё.
Topic Starter
Mirash
thanks hadouken
]

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

Прив

Insane:
  1. 00:27:409 - мне нравятся быстрые слайдеры, но во время игры это практически невозможно предугадать. Я терял комбо практически на каждой хай-св секции этой дифы, было бы круто если бы игроку давалась какая-то подсказка (комбо колор например) с комбо колорами ради этого не хочу играться, а играется это вроде как понятно, я видел несколько тестплеев не от самых хайранкед игроков, да и момент этот почти в самом начале, я думаю ретрайнуть один раз не составит трудностей
  2. 00:29:009 (1) - этот момент было бы круто почеркнуть таким флоу неплохо
  3. 00:52:709 (6,7,8,1,2) - это как-то выбивается внешне из всего стрима. Хотя может так и надо сделал ровнее
  4. 00:54:209 (1,1) - ты же вроде стакаешь обычно конец продленного слайдера с тем что после него (за исключением особых случаев, этот особый разве?) ну, пере началом другой секции, да, плюс звук такой всего два раза в карте появляется и оба я таким спейсингом выделил, так что особенный
  5. 01:51:409 (4,5) - это как-то неловко мне нравится как выглядит
  6. 02:01:509 - лучше клик? ммм, думаю оставлю конец слайдера
  7. 02:33:209 (6,7) - это выглядит так, будто тебе просто не хватило места я так часто ставлю круг после квадрата, тут просто все оказалось в углу экрана
  8. 02:39:009 (2,3,4,5) - какая-то необоснованная непостоянность в спейсинге, я читал как двойки там на 2 и 4 пианино стоит громкое, а на ноты под ними слабенькие звуки, думаю пойдет
  9. 02:42:609 (1,1) - можно покрасивее сделал что-то
  10. 02:45:809 (1,2,3) - попробуй (1) сделать 1/2 а (2) и (3) стакнутую двойку. По-моему прикольно, звуки на (2) и (3) лучше чувствуются окей
  11. 02:52:609 (1,1,1) - точно нк? Я не замисридил кое-как вроде круто выглядит
  12. 02:53:409 (1,2) - странно что (2) стакнут с (1) ибо таким образом кажется, что между звуками, которые показывают эти объекты есть связь, хотя на самом деле её нет. И на (2) нк думаю стоит ок, поменял
  13. 03:23:609 (1,2,3,4) - охренеть сложно анстакнул и нк поменял, чтоб проще было
  14. 03:28:609 (3,4) - может лучше конец (3) поближе к началу (4)? там так стакнулось хорошо, не хочу портить
  15. 03:46:209 (3) - нк? тут звук сильный я обычно не ставлю нк посреди патернов
  16. 03:55:809 (9) - уж логичнее чтобы стрим отсюда начинался в начале я такой же момент вообще с кучей пропусков мапнул, в таком сонге я думаю можно пропускать что-то, чтобы разнообразить ритм
  17. 04:36:809 (2,3,4,5) - может сделаешь тут так же как 01:06:809 (2,3,4,5) - ? окей
  18. 04:49:109 (6,7) - зач стакать я каталины обсмотрелся в эдиторе, играется вроде понятно и выглядит клево
  19. 05:21:409 (6,7) - ^
Надеюсь чем-нибудь помог. Удачи!
thanks vanucik

vanucik wrote:

аимод
первый и второй колор кажутся мне слишком темными, особенно это заметно в твоей дифе на 00:09:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - сделал немного ярче их
00:14:609 (1) - зачем ритм разнообразить
00:39:509 (2) - убери типа ритм чтобы норм был как в прошлом паттерне ну это тоже
00:53:809 (1,1) - переборщил ну не
01:18:609 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - зачем так уродливо делать, можешь и лучше да вроде ок
04:23:809 (1) - вправо его ок, немножко подвинул

боринг

thanks dubturt

Dubturt wrote:

hi i suck at modding so sorry in advance

[General]

  1. rip sb
  2. some conflicts from elvis's diff
[Insane]

  1. you have an unsnapped object check AiMod lol yeah
  2. 00:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - idk the hitsounds here puts me off a bit, should it be like 00:06:209 (1,2,3,4,5) in terms of hitsounding? idk i suck at hs yea did something with it
  3. 00:18:409 (1,2) - might want to distance 2 from 1 a bit? replaced them
  4. 00:52:809 (7,8,1,2) - uh why thispart of streams are straight-ish? when the stream here goes curvy fixed
  5. 01:37:609 (4) - maybe confusing? i think its fine
  6. 02:32:809 (4,5,6,7) - distance of 7? i like doing such stuff, it feels nice
  7. 03:47:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why not make it an equilateral square? umm, you might wanna check stack view option, it looks fine this way for me
  8. 04:00:609 (1,1) - uh distance the overlap a bit like the others? yeah
i cant mod elvis's diff :? im having hard time sorry

thanks sers zgk

sers zgk wrote:

Hi! I'm here from my modding que.

Insane
There are many places that do not match with music between 00:29:009 it'd be really boring if i just spammed tripplets in accordance with drum
01:18:609 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) These ignore songs. It is necessary to match with the song. it does match with the song imo
03:03:609 (2,3,4) Should be a 1/6 slider. you are right

Your map has overmap a lot. This is not a good thing to fix. i dont think it is a pure overmap

Good Luck!

thanks suissie

Suissie wrote:

Hello there

both pretty nice maps. Im sry that mods aren't that long. Im not rly good at modding. long mods aren't necessarily good!

[Insane]
Check AiMod-chan B)
You might wanna use same spacing here 00:36:809 (4,1) - as in there 00:36:809 (4,1) - and there 00:36:009 (4,1) - there are too many things to change if i wanna accept it
01:50:409 (1,2,3) - looks better imo ok
02:27:409 (3,4) - its not properly aligned. eeh not got you here, i'm fine with how they look though
In case you wanted to make a diamond pattern it needs to be fixed. 04:35:809 (1,2,3,4) - yeah
04:42:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I mean I rly like reading stuff but most of the map isn't that hard to read tbh and maybe you could find a way to make it a bit easier to read to be more consistent. Not sure tho because its well mapped :/ i want to keep that stuff
04:50:209 (1,2) - why is this spaced while this 04:56:609 (1,2) - is not ? hmm why not, no movement at all is a nice thing too
01:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ok that pattern is more problematic to read tbh. But I let you think about it. idk, i might nc doublets but doubt it will help, keep it for now
01:58:609 (1,1) - maybe try to indicate better that this slider is going to be rly slow with special combo color or whatever. it is short so no one will move their cursors far away from the start, i've seen some testplays that confirms this
02:29:609 (4) - that flow feels kinda weird because the music doesn't sound too special there and that movement doesn't reflect it good imo. Would keep the linear flow. not sure tho yeah, true
03:37:209 (4,1) - I dont get why you change flow direction there but not there 03:38:009 (4,1) - seems fun so why not
04:40:609 (1) - you could give more emphasize on it by moving it a bit up like this i like how it looks with further sliders and also think that straight movement here looks more nicer

thanks panahero

PandaHero wrote:

Аймод проверь, у вас оффсеты слегка разные (3409 у тебя и 3408 у Элвиса). Из-за этого и превью тайм разный. ага, я просто сам таймил его зачем-то


[Insane]
Наспамила бы софт вистлом в начале под пианино (до первой закладки), а то как-то пусто что ли звучит. это у меня план такой по очереди интродюсить хсы, и спамить ими в интенсив частях
00:06:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - судя по тому как ты это хитсаундишь может показаться, что 2 тут и не нужна совсем, может на неё тоже нормал семплсет влепить? Ну или убрать её совсем клево же звучит, а с двоечкой еще и играется прикольно
00:14:409 (8,1) - ты всегда делал больше спейсинга на звук, который под 1, но тут почему-то не сделал, хм ну не знаю, почему бы и нет, конец секции все-таки!
00:15:809 (1,1) - а может всё-таки лучше не оверлапать? Подвинь её наверх куда-нибудь я тут оверлапаю, чтобы переход на еденичку дальше был легче, вверх если сделаю надо будет аимить прыжок 20000х
00:20:209 (3) - нк может поставишь? спамер !
00:31:409 (3) - и сюда я не такой !
01:05:009 (3,1) - а по-моему если свапнуть тут нк, и ещё поставить поставить сюда - 01:05:809 (2), будет больше подходит по звуку. Типа звуки на 3 и 2 сильнее, чем на 1. я тут нк на патерны ставлю, а не на звуки, хотя твой вариант тоже неплох, но я все же оставлю свой
01:07:409 (7) - ну и сюда бы поставила (сорри за мод про нк >_<) ок тут можно
01:09:809 (4,5) - а я бы уменьшила тут спейсинг, не такой уж и сильный на 5 звук, чтобы её так далеко ставить ага
01:33:009 (1) - о, а может тут серые цвета комбо под сториборд сделаете? не уверен, что этот сториборд тут на долго останется
01:52:209 (3,4,5) - вот эта штука не очень красиво выглядит без нк на 5, может поставишь? И на 7 наверное ещё можно на 7 можно, а на 5 без нк лучше выглядит !
01:56:209 (1,2,3,4,5) - отодвинь её от предыдущей такой же штуки что ли, на 1 такой звук сочный ок, немного отодвинул
02:01:009 (1) - не могу понять под какой звук ты его ставил и почему закончил именно на голубом тике ну там так и есть вроде не?
02:05:809 (3,4,5) - вот эта штука по ритму лучше, чем эта - 02:02:409 (4,5), может сделаешь там что-нибудь подобное? разнообразие пусть будет, мне обе версии нравятся
02:33:609 - кажется тут тоже есть пианино, просто оно тихое ну тут я паузу хотел
02:39:009 (2,3,4,5) - спутала их с двоечками сначала, раздвинь их, пожалуйста ок
02:52:609 (1,1,1) - а тут обязательно спамить нк, это твой хитрый план? оО клево же
03:01:009 (5) - ааааа, хп уходит, поставь нк так фолоупоинт показывает куда курсор тянуть, я это и хотел
05:23:009 (5) - нк, а то фоллоу пойнт некрасивый х) ага

У Элвиса нормально всё. >:(

fewww
Mir
Hi, some small suggestions!

[Insane]
- 00:09:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why use two different types of flow for the same sounds?
- 00:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Switching to the background layer is kinda questionable here when you ignored it for the point above
- 00:27:409 - This SV increase is so crazy after the direction change on the stream and the reverse on 00:28:009 (4) - is kinda aids to hit as well at this speed. Consider lowering it or adjusting the direction of 00:27:009 (1,2,3,4) - to lead into the first slider rather than to have the first slider lead away from it cuz that snap-back motion requires a lot of adjustment and that makes it really hard to speed up that fast especially when not aware of such a drastic change.
- 00:40:209 (1,1,1,1) - These NCs aren't really necessary and I more misread it for 3/4 than 1/2 sliders.
- 00:48:009 (12,1) - This spacing is super excessive and doesn't really appear any more in the map so it kinda stands out way more than imo it should.
- 01:06:809 (2,3,4,5) - This spacing is so low I misread it for a triple at first. Consider spacing it more, maybe like this.
- 01:58:609 (1,1,1) - Having the first gap as 1/4 and the last one as 1/2 is quite misleading consider making a differentiation between them.
- 02:33:009 (5,6,7) - Spacing could be more equal probably?
- 02:52:609 (1,1,1) - This NCing confused me more for 1/3 than was for aesthetic pleasure. I would consider removing this.
- 02:54:609 (1,2) - Also consider swapping the NCs cuz I misread this for being the previous bpm and it kinda tilted me lol
- 03:23:609 (12,13,1,2) - pls 03:26:509 (1,2,1,2) - pls can you differentiate the 1/4 stacks with the 1/2 stacks cuz at this ar it's super confusing and the note density doesn't give the player much time to react to that change and it just makes it more tedious than I think it could be.

I think the rest just repeats so I'll uh leave it here. Good luck with this though, looks interesting!
Okoratu
jounzan's original hitsounding is better why did you not just copy it
Topic Starter
Mirash
tried to make something by my own lol, still was doubting them myself, but no one said a thing. guess i'll just copy and adjust yeah. thanks for the star!

Mir

Mir wrote:

Hi, some small suggestions!

[Insane]
- 00:09:809 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why use two different types of flow for the same sounds? it sounds like more strongly at first and decreasing power later for me
- 00:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Switching to the background layer is kinda questionable here when you ignored it for the point above i feel like introducing stream here, also it is nice pre section switching i guess
- 00:27:409 - This SV increase is so crazy after the direction change on the stream and the reverse on 00:28:009 (4) - is kinda aids to hit as well at this speed. Consider lowering it or adjusting the direction of 00:27:009 (1,2,3,4) - to lead into the first slider rather than to have the first slider lead away from it cuz that snap-back motion requires a lot of adjustment and that makes it really hard to speed up that fast especially when not aware of such a drastic change. yeah, reworked stream direction, don't want to redo SV i feel like it works nice, also seen some first time testplays and people hit it ok
- 00:40:209 (1,1,1,1) - These NCs aren't really necessary and I more misread it for 3/4 than 1/2 sliders. agree here
- 00:48:009 (12,1) - This spacing is super excessive and doesn't really appear any more in the map so it kinda stands out way more than imo it should. woops, fixed
- 01:06:809 (2,3,4,5) - This spacing is so low I misread it for a triple at first. Consider spacing it more, maybe like this. sure
- 01:58:609 (1,1,1) - Having the first gap as 1/4 and the last one as 1/2 is quite misleading consider making a differentiation between them. i think i should but idk, feels ok for me, changed
- 02:33:009 (5,6,7) - Spacing could be more equal probably? i like doing such stuff, i t looks pretty also lower spacing is doing nice job here imo
- 02:52:609 (1,1,1) - This NCing confused me more for 1/3 than was for aesthetic pleasure. I would consider removing this. yes
- 02:54:609 (1,2) - Also consider swapping the NCs cuz I misread this for being the previous bpm and it kinda tilted me lol yes
- 03:23:609 (12,13,1,2) - pls 03:26:509 (1,2,1,2) - pls can you differentiate the 1/4 stacks with the 1/2 stacks cuz at this ar it's super confusing and the note density doesn't give the player much time to react to that change and it just makes it more tedious than I think it could be. yeah, probably should be ok now

I think the rest just repeats so I'll uh leave it here. Good luck with this though, looks interesting! thanks for modding!
Delis
07th expansion in tags pls

00:13:009 (1) - lol edgy nc
00:50:209 (4,5) - ctrl+g this could get a better flow imo because an anti-flow jump after a mini jump here doesn't seem really fitting to the song this way. the sliders on the sides 00:50:609 (1,2) - could be above 00:50:409 (5) - if the change has applied to me that looked more interesting.
00:57:609 (1) - I'd remove the nc here and put 00:58:209 (4) - instead to protect the square looking lol
02:01:009 (1) - this is unnecessarily hard to catch the rhythm properly because of the sound at blue tick and the sliderend sticks to it, plus there's a bunch of notes under it. think you should copy the one like elvis did (less SV on the second slider, place the objects under the sliderend away.) to make reading process much easier, as this diff is intended to be a lower one despite we don't need to care of spread.
03:30:209 (1,2,3) - this apparently too much for a reading challenge it might make this confusing like there is a 3/2 gap between them and compared to 03:27:209 (5,6,7,1,2) - maybe place it closer to the (1) also swap new combo to separate the pattern will look neater to me yea
04:09:409 (8) - combo fits
04:17:809 (6,7) - how about patterning this to be a bridge between 04:17:409 (3,4,5) - and 04:18:209 (1) - because eh only one jump onto 04:18:209 (1) - feels a bit underwhelming when the music getting more intense. I have 3 ideas for this https://delisha.s-ul.eu/7xE7tqRI, https://delisha.s-ul.eu/CbzFLlVg, https://delisha.s-ul.eu/PQAIhCT2 all of them can fit to your mapping concept here really well, worth a shot.
04:26:209 (1,2) - now the hitsound here is intended to have a triplet between the sliders lol
04:46:209 (4) - I think combo here too if you made a change on 04:09:409 (8) -

epvis
00:03:409 - volume can be lower, whistles are a bit too loud
00:25:409 (10) - this feels like not your mapping since the flow 00:24:809 (6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - plays too normie lol https://delisha.s-ul.eu/6ytOd8d5 u small spacing ftw
00:41:009 (1,2) - the slider speed of these should be a bit different from the previous two, or at least only 00:41:009 (1) - could apply x0.10 - 0.20 higher since the sound here obviously is higher, and sadly I can't tell if 00:40:609 (2) - is stronger than 00:41:409 (2) - to me it sounds slightly higher so could try lower it for 00:41:409 (2) - idk
00:54:209 (1) - slower slider plays meh but k
01:58:609 (1) - decrease the volume of these slider ticks by 30% I think they don't have to stand out that much lol
02:53:409 - pls whistles are too loud

the volume needs adjustments
Topic Starter
Mirash
arigatou derisu

Delis wrote:

07th expansion in tags pls

00:13:009 (1) - lol edgy nc xD unstacked it i guess
00:50:209 (4,5) - ctrl+g this could get a better flow imo because an anti-flow jump after a mini jump here doesn't seem really fitting to the song this way. the sliders on the sides 00:50:609 (1,2) - could be above 00:50:409 (5) - if the change has applied to me that looked more interesting. yeah
00:57:609 (1) - I'd remove the nc here and put 00:58:209 (4) - instead to protect the square looking lol agree, bothered me too
02:01:009 (1) - this is unnecessarily hard to catch the rhythm properly because of the sound at blue tick and the sliderend sticks to it, plus there's a bunch of notes under it. think you should copy the one like elvis did (less SV on the second slider, place the objects under the sliderend away.) to make reading process much easier, as this diff is intended to be a lower one despite we don't need to care of spread. >_< tried something again here
03:30:209 (1,2,3) - this apparently too much for a reading challenge it might make this confusing like there is a 3/2 gap between them and compared to 03:27:209 (5,6,7,1,2) - maybe place it closer to the (1) also swap new combo to separate the pattern will look neater to me yea agree with everything
04:09:409 (8) - combo fits plus
04:17:809 (6,7) - how about patterning this to be a bridge between 04:17:409 (3,4,5) - and 04:18:209 (1) - because eh only one jump onto 04:18:209 (1) - feels a bit underwhelming when the music getting more intense. I have 3 ideas for this https://delisha.s-ul.eu/7xE7tqRI, https://delisha.s-ul.eu/CbzFLlVg, https://delisha.s-ul.eu/PQAIhCT2 all of them can fit to your mapping concept here really well, worth a shot. oo sugoi
04:26:209 (1,2) - now the hitsound here is intended to have a triplet between the sliders lol hmm looks ok
04:46:209 (4) - I think combo here too if you made a change on 04:09:409 (8) - yeah

reconsidered some ncs again ok
Natteke desu
well i fixed volumes, added nc and oh god now my diff have kiai

h4d0uk3n1:
1)там есть 1/6, а на счет киков, мне не кажется что они становятся громче
2)вроде поправил... наверное
3)мне нравится как есть
4)нет
5)но я не вижу причины для этого
6)нет, потому что там паттерн томбов
7)спейсинг
8)не могу этому помочь

vanucik:
1)логика как раз том, чтобы сделать их менее различимыми, для того чтобы их было сложнее играть, что придавало бы интенсивности геймплею
2)прожал как дойки
3)но он отличается
4)не сделаю
5)спейсинг, как раз, самый бейсик
6)там есть какое-то вокальное говно, а 1/6, после 1/8, звучало бы более чем странно

Suissie:
1)idk i disagree that it's cancerous, it's like simple 1/6 stack
2)i disagree

Bebis:
1)ye
2)intended as is
3)same, it supposed to be way to emphasise without making them retarded jumps
4)k
5)ye
6)ye

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Topic Starter
Mirash
thanks thanks thanks thanks 1/4 thanks thanks ありがとう ふい そさt
PandaHero
Ура, бубл
Okoratu
thanks

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schoolboy
привет
Natteke desu
гратз саня
Stefan
xорошо
Suissie
ошо
Topic Starter
Mirash
everyone russian here, thank oкo
Namki
おめでとみらしさん
Shmiklak
Just a non Russian congratulation
Lama Poluna
поздравляю!
Kimitakari
Продолжай в таком же духе, Мираж
Djulus
Э5эрдэ!
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