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Geroyuni

h3oCharles wrote:

scorebar with playfield box/lines, more reverse arrows (ring, semiring, circle with arrow, full arrow, etc), pass/fail, good/bad, bigger follow circ
and wuts the font used?


Playfield seems like an interesting one, I'll try some things out and add it later.
The font is Roboto.
softhusky
oh...

it's another roboto skin...






it's better than the BRAND NEW MINIMALIST PACKED SKIN I'M WORKING ON! though
Topic Starter
Geroyuni
Added the customizations Playfield (16:9, 16:10, 21:9 ratios) and Cursor colors (8 choices) - Made changes to customization section that I'm too lazy to talk about

I was thinking about making further updates to the skin itself, but it's getting clearer and clearer that I don't really have anything else left to do. The next update will possibly be the final update, and I will then move onto doing something else. Thanks everyone for all the feedback and support.
ricochet890

How about designing icons for song selection buttons like above? I feel the current ones are a little bit bland.

Overall your skin is solid, I love it.
johnmedina999
I noticed that both mania-hit300-0.png and mania-hit300g-0.png are transparent and aren't visible. Is this intentional?
autoteleology
Man, have you seen this review that was written about your skin on this big skinning channel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdyNoZlVceA

What the hell? In context to the ratings that many other skins receive on this channel I felt that this was brutally unfair and borderline ridiculous. Disregarding my own opinion on your skin, the fact that they would give you a 1 (a rating which I have only seen on one other skin which was an absolute wreck in every area) despite not being able to point out any substantial/objective flaws was, in my opinion, very thoughtless and disrespectful. If they want to trash your skin like that they should at least be able to support that ranking with some kind of comprehensive objection.

As a fellow skinner who shares a similar style to you, I kind of felt like this sort of blatant bias against minimal skins was by proxy an attack on me, and therefore irritating enough to write a pretty scathing comment on their channel. I understand that all the same their review is still beneficial to you as it it's free advertising to a relatively large audience, but damn it got under my "skin".

Asses on blast
This review's scoring methodology is so utterly preposterous it borders on insulting. One star/two stars for something that you can't even illustrate a single strong objective flaw about is absurd, and completely devalues what the impact of getting one star is supposed to represent in the scale - a complete failure. This is supposed to be comparable to something that is totally broken? I feel as though you really just decided to compromise the system and sandbag all the other element points just so you could give the gameplay a 5 and the skin overall a 3 so you wouldn't have to endorse something you subjectively dislike. The fact that you had to cop out that scores of the same value aren't comparable to each other just exemplifies how arbitrary and meaningless your numbers are. If the numbers aren't comparable then why are you putting them into numbers in the first place? Isn't the whole point of numerical ratings to simplify and objectify the complex and subjective for easy comparison to other things?

I usually like your reviews and I am a subscriber but you 100% dropped the ball here. This is not about your opinion on the skin, which is irrelevant. It is about your total failure to justify the numbers you provide through your words in the review. If all you can offer in the place of damning criticism is a flaccid meh, how have you justified giving your lowest score?
johnmedina999
^I also like how this is an all-modes skin but failed to review any other mode. The skin is nice and clean in all its aspects, really.
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

ricochet890 wrote:

https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kdIZo42.png
How about designing icons for song selection buttons like above? I feel the current ones are a little bit bland.

Overall your skin is solid, I love it.
I may have tried out something like that before, not sure what happened that made me abandon the idea. I'll try out a few things later, thanks for the suggestion.



johnmedina999 wrote:

I noticed that both mania-hit300-0.png and mania-hit300g-0.png are transparent and aren't visible. Is this intentional?
Yes, I did something similar with osu!standard which I thought would also have worked with osu!mania. The thought process is that there's no need to display anything if you're doing just fine (getting 300s). I only have doubts if pro mania players would find it necessary to display 300 while still keeping 300g invisible, or the other way around. Considering that getting either one still keeps you at 100% accuracy, I decided to keep both invisible until I got feedback that told me it's better to do otherwise. I rarely get anyone talking about modes that aren't osu!standard though.






Philosofikal wrote:

Man, have you seen this review that was written about your skin on this big skinning channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdyNoZlVceA
What the hell? In context to the ratings that many other skins receive on this channel I felt that this was brutally unfair and borderline ridiculous. Disregarding my own opinion on your skin, the fact that they would give you a 1 (a rating which I have only seen on one other skin which was an absolute wreck in every area) despite not being able to point out any substantial/objective flaws was, in my opinion, very thoughtless and disrespectful. If they want to trash your skin like that they should at least be able to support that ranking with some kind of comprehensive objection.
As a fellow skinner who shares a similar style to you, I kind of felt like this sort of blatant bias against minimal skins was by proxy an attack on me, and therefore irritating enough to write a pretty scathing comment on their channel. I understand that all the same their review is still beneficial to you as it it's free advertising to a relatively large audience, but damn it got under my "skin".
Asses on blast
This review's scoring methodology is so utterly preposterous it borders on insulting. One star/two stars for something that you can't even illustrate a single strong objective flaw about is absurd, and completely devalues what the impact of getting one star is supposed to represent in the scale - a complete failure. This is supposed to be comparable to something that is totally broken? I feel as though you really just decided to compromise the system and sandbag all the other element points just so you could give the gameplay a 5 and the skin overall a 3 so you wouldn't have to endorse something you subjectively dislike. The fact that you had to cop out that scores of the same value aren't comparable to each other just exemplifies how arbitrary and meaningless your numbers are. If the numbers aren't comparable then why are you putting them into numbers in the first place? Isn't the whole point of numerical ratings to simplify and objectify the complex and subjective for easy comparison to other things?
I usually like your reviews and I am a subscriber but you 100% dropped the ball here. This is not about your opinion on the skin, which is irrelevant. It is about your total failure to justify the numbers you provide through your words in the review. If all you can offer in the place of damning criticism is a flaccid meh, how have you justified giving your lowest score?
I have seen it. I do remember talking to the reviewer but I didn't really get his point, I'm not sure what I thought but I ended up deciding to just deal with it and move on.

I do agree with you and I think that the review is quite an insult, considering that this skin gets called "low effort" while other skins with clear misalignments and poor font/color choices don't even get called out on it and get high ratings. After that I just chose to stop taking the channel seriously, as if the previous reviews from other skins weren't enough.

They either fail to notice problems that are usually glaringly obvious to a graphic designer or fail to praise the skins when it does things correctly - they seem to rely mostly on a "this is just my opinion" rather than also having a good amount of objective explanations as to why something looks good or bad.



johnmedina999 wrote:

^I also like how this is an all-modes skin but failed to review any other mode. The skin is nice and clean in all its aspects, really.
I found that weird as well. Instead of waiting for reviewers that played the other modes, they only talked about standard. Apparently someone else submited the skin to be reviewed in their website, they keep a list with the submited skins in there and I saw that the person did ask to have all the 4 modes be reviewed. I also find it weird that they would review the skin without asking the creator or waiting for the final version of the skin.
johnmedina999

Geroyuni wrote:

Yes, I did something similar with osu!standard which I thought would also have worked with osu!mania. The thought process is that there's no need to display anything if you're doing just fine (getting 300s). I only have doubts if pro mania players would find it necessary to display 300 while still keeping 300g invisible, or the other way around. Considering that getting either one still keeps you at 100% accuracy, I decided to keep both invisible until I got feedback that told me it's better to do otherwise. I rarely get anyone talking about modes that aren't osu!standard though.
Well, personally I find it important to see whether I'm getting 300 or 300g repeatedly so if I'm not getting 300g I can do my best to correct my timing; however, it's really hard to do that if there is no distinction between the two. They do both give 100% accuracy, but not the same score, which is also important. Also, in the future, Score v2 will roll out, and they won't both give 100% accuracy anymore. Having a distinction is really important in mania, I find.

Everything else is great, though!
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

johnmedina999 wrote:

Well, personally I find it important to see whether I'm getting 300 or 300g repeatedly so if I'm not getting 300g I can do my best to correct my timing; however, it's really hard to do that if there is no distinction between the two. They do both give 100% accuracy, but not the same score, which is also important. Also, in the future, Score v2 will roll out, and they won't both give 100% accuracy anymore. Having a distinction is really important in mania, I find.
Everything else is great, though!
I see, I'll add that on my to-do list then. Thanks for the feedback.
epsilon

Geroyuni wrote:

Did wrote:

Really well made skin, looks very clean. The only thing I don't like is how every column in mania is the same color.
I don't play mania that often so i'm not sure if this is a problem for high rank players.
Yea I'm not sure either if high rank players have a problem with that, so had I decided to keep it one color for now and change it if someone reported that different colors were actually important for gameplay. I'll start trying out some stuff and maybe different colors will be in the next update
I think it would be great to have different colours for mania. Perhaps add a customisation which lists good colours to use for each column that match the skin.
username298_old
Would love a version with numbers!
johnmedina999

username298 wrote:

Would love a version with numbers!
There are already numbers, I believe. They're in the customization folder.
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

eps0003 wrote:

I think it would be great to have different colours for mania. Perhaps add a customisation which lists good colours to use for each column that match the skin.

Will add to my to-do list, may take quite a while to add that one.
epsilon
In multiplayer, the accuracy symbols which pop up for everyone on the scoreboard uses the symbols from the results screen. I'm not sure if there's a way to sprite these differently.
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

eps0003 wrote:

In multiplayer, the accuracy symbols which pop up for everyone on the scoreboard uses the symbols from the results screen. I'm not sure if there's a way to sprite these differently.

I have known about this problem, it's a pretty disappointing one to me. I was so happy when I found out that I could replace hit images in ranking screens for every mode (getting rid of this mess of icons in the other 3 modes) and worked on implementing it, just to then find out that the multiplayer scoreboard uses these images as well, instead of using the tiny circles from gameplay.

I don't think there's an easy way to fix it, it may require me to completely redesign the ranking panel section just because of these icons, or there may be some really smart trick that I don't know of right now. At this moment, I just accept that the problem is there and I press TAB whenever I play on multiplayer to hide the scoreboard. I really wish I could fix this without ruining how the ranking screen currently looks though.
autoteleology

Geroyuni wrote:

eps0003 wrote:

In multiplayer, the accuracy symbols which pop up for everyone on the scoreboard uses the symbols from the results screen. I'm not sure if there's a way to sprite these differently.
I have known about this problem, it's a pretty disappointing one to me. I was so happy when I found out that I could replace hit images in ranking screens for every mode (getting rid of this mess of icons in the other 3 modes) and worked on implementing it, just to then find out that the multiplayer scoreboard uses these images as well, instead of using the tiny circles from gameplay.

I don't think there's an easy way to fix it, it may require me to completely redesign the ranking panel section just because of these icons, or there may be some really smart trick that I don't know of right now. At this moment, I just accept that the problem is there and I press TAB whenever I play on multiplayer to hide the scoreboard. I really wish I could fix this without ruining how the ranking screen currently looks though.
Just put the images directly on the ranking panel instead of having them be separate elements. You then also get the awesome benefit of not having them rescaled down to 0.35x original size.
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

Philosofikal wrote:

Just put the images directly on the ranking panel instead of having them be separate elements. You then also get the awesome benefit of not having them rescaled down to 0.35x original size.

That is how it was in earlier versions. It works fine with osu!standard, but not with the other 3 modes (that image I had in the post you replied to for instance was osu!ctb when the icons were added directly into ranking-panel). Here's a comparison between how things would look with icons added into ranking-panel vs how they are right now: osu!ctb, osu!taiko, osu!mania
HotChocolate
Nice but not enough yet you did a good job <3
ZanderPlays

XRoseSelenayX wrote:

Nice but not enough yet you did a good job <3
This comment was nice but not enough yet you did a good job <3
Karkovb152
I really like the way you use little colored dot in mania so it's not distracting but gives you an idea whenever you score 200 and below on each beat :D
epsilon
Is it just me or does the glow for the mode symbol look slightly unaligned to the left?


Also, could you make some mania sprites which work with flashlight as a customisation. I am unable to see the full healthbar and the hit accuracy dots. The best way to make it work is to shorten the scoreboard height and move the acc dots down and to the side so both are fully visible. The only bad thing about this is that the healthbar would look bad in other gamemmodes, but this is also the case with the standard playfield square customisation while playing mania.
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

eps0003 wrote:

Is it just me or does the glow for the mode symbol look slightly unaligned to the left?

Also, could you make some mania sprites which work with flashlight as a customisation. I am unable to see the full healthbar and the hit accuracy dots. The best way to make it work is to shorten the scoreboard height and move the acc dots down and to the side so both are fully visible. The only bad thing about this is that the healthbar would look bad in other gamemmodes, but this is also the case with the standard playfield square customisation while playing mania.
Funnily enough, the misalignment you pointed out is actually osu!'s fault. That misalignment is a result of the image being placed incorrectly by the developers, meaning that, to fix this, I would have to intentionally misalign the icon in mode-X-small.png so it would look correct ingame. This also means the icon is also slightly misaligned in the default skin.

You can see more of these misalignments by the developers in the multiplayer UI, such as in the player list in the ranking screen and the horrible looking party ranking screen. The problem with these 2 is that I can't even fix them because the misaligned files are also used somewhere else (fixing it in one area will misalign it in another area). As for the mode icon, that will be fixed in the next version, I already knew about that one ; )

About the osu!mania flashlight customization, as far as I'm aware, the healthbar can't be shortened in the way that it is needed in order to be fully visible for flashlight. As for the hit images, that would be as simple as using a different number in ScorePosition: number over at skin.ini's mania section (for each key count). I did a quick test and it seems that something between 200 and 260 may be what you're looking for (200 slightly visible in the top, 230 in the very middle, 260 slightly visible in the bottom) you may try that out by yourself if you want to.

I have been getting more busy recently because of school but I'll try to release something this week or next week. Thanks for the feedback and suggestions
Topic Starter
Geroyuni
Released the minor 1.3 update, changelog and download link in the main post.
oh yeah, and mania note and key color customization is released.
szmak01
Great skin i love it!

Is it possible to change the color of the circles to pink and blue ?

Same as here:
Fatal3ty

MIKEWar wrote:

Great skin i love it!

Is it possible to change the color of the circles to pink and blue ?

Same as here:
You can change this colors with per skin.ini

Open this Skin.ini with notepad and change this:

[Colours]
Combo1: R,G,B
Combo2: R,G,B
... max. Combo8

R,G,B for colours your like (example 255,255,255 for white)

Pick your colour under: http://www.rapidtables.com/web/color/RGB_Color.htm
szmak01
I will try !
Thanks!
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

Fatal3ty wrote:

MIKEWar wrote:

Great skin i love it!

Is it possible to change the color of the circles to pink and blue ?

Same as here:
(image)
You can change this colors with per skin.ini

Open this Skin.ini with notepad and change this:

[Colours]
Combo1: R,G,B
Combo2: R,G,B
... max. Combo8

R,G,B for colours your like (example 255,255,255 for white)

Pick your colour under: http://www.rapidtables.com/web/color/RGB_Color.htm
Might I also add that these colors are from a beatmap I was playing (can't remember which); the colors were not added manually. I always play with "Ignore all beatmap skins" disabled because each map introduces their own combo colors and adds a bit of variety to the skin for each map that I just can't do myself with the tools currently available for skin creators.

I didn't expect so many people to have the setting enabled, and I even find the default combo color in my skin quite boring. I'll do something about that in the next/last update.
Aythen
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Topic Starter
Geroyuni

Itacz wrote:

What about other circles sliderb sliderfollowcircle?


I'm unsure about what you are referring to specifically, are you talking about their color being just white?
Ethan
This is my new skin tbh this is great
Jordan
Amazing skin!
TunaSub
great skin!! not using it for gameplay tho
D1mka[HF]
Nice skin bro, thanks! ;)
Crusty21
can any one tell me what the name of the main font in this skin?
WittyKitty
I'm editing all the text on this skin to be in japanese, when it's done should I send it over? I think it might be a nice addition to the skin.
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

AGamerzDemize wrote:

I'm editing all the text on this skin to be in japanese, when it's done should I send it over? I think it might be a nice addition to the skin.
Sure. I'll add it onto the customization pack with credits.
ababa
mania-note-png resolution is quite a lot bigger compared to Minimal 1.2 don't you think? :)

(hint: it was 1x3 before, quite minimalistic)
Topic Starter
Geroyuni

IceDynamix wrote:

mania-note-png resolution is quite a lot bigger compared to Minimal 1.2 don't you think? :)

(hint: it was 1x3 before, quite minimalistic)
Yeah, good catch. The reason for this change was that the extremely small resolution would break the note's position in stable fallback, so I had to increase it a little.
mengass
Hello!
Could you update the download link, please?)
Players which lives in Russia, can't download that skin, because of our goverment blocked that domen which you use to download skin(
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