06:23 Renumi: aah hi can i ask for some additional help on my map if you have the time?
06:23 Voli: yea sure ^^
06:23 Renumi: aah thank you thank you
06:23 Renumi: it's this thing you modded earlier
06:23 *Renumi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1317759 TeddyLoid feat. Bonjour Suzuki - Pipo Password [Hard]]
06:24 Voli: yeah
06:25 Voli: i assume you're talking about the uhh
06:25 Voli: overmapped sliders
06:25 Voli: or well as i called them
06:25 Renumi: yeah, exactly :d
06:25 Renumi: with them i was trying to go for a mix of both vocals and instruments but i'm not too sure how i could change
06:26 Voli: well
06:26 Voli: some of them are just like..
06:26 Voli: mapping to really nothing
06:26 Voli: 00:38:702 (2) -
06:26 Voli: if you remove it
06:26 Voli: theres nothing beneath it
06:26 Voli: in the music
06:27 Voli: whoops wrong notation lol
06:27 Renumi: D^:
06:28 Voli: 00:39:369 (4) -
06:28 Voli: if you want to follow the vocals
06:28 Voli: the blue ticks are.. filler
06:29 Voli: and idk why you'd not just use 2 notes
06:29 Voli: or a long slider
06:29 Renumi: ahh, alright i think i understand now
06:29 Voli: sometimes im just not entire sure
06:29 Voli: entirely sure
06:30 Voli: what you wanna follow with some patterns
06:30 Voli: and i think you could define it a bit clearer
06:30 Voli: 01:00:369 (4,5) - these things obviously follow the percussion
06:30 Voli: no doubt
06:30 Voli: but other repeats such as the one i linked before are just kinda ''there''
06:31 Voli: and dont follow anything in particular
06:31 Renumi: right, i see what you mean now
06:31 Renumi: bad use of filler
06:32 Voli: 01:20:202 (2) - this is my bad btw
06:32 Voli: i hear now what you followed there
06:34 Renumi: that one sound in there yea
06:34 Voli: 00:47:035 (5) - these would be better
06:34 Voli: if you accentuated the melodic sound on the sliderhead
06:34 Voli: with a hitsound
06:34 Voli: its also because your hitsounds are purely drum
06:35 Voli: so a repeat consisting of a melodic sound and then drums.. is a bit weird because you only hitsounded the drums
06:36 Renumi: hmm, not sure i follow much there :s
06:37 Voli: 00:55:036 (5) -
06:37 Voli: things like this aswell
06:37 Voli: its obvious what you tried to follow but
06:37 Voli:
https://voli.s-ul.eu/3oR4waQb.png06:37 Voli: if you do it like this for example, you wont have the problem of the strong sounds going ignored
06:37 Voli: under a sliderend/sliderslide
06:38 Voli: and only the weakest sound being clickable
06:38 Renumi: aah, i see i see
06:38 Voli: 00:53:702 (1,2,3) - you did it better here actually haha
06:39 Renumi: ayy yay (?
06:39 Renumi: ahah more active clicking then
06:39 Voli: x)
06:40 Voli: yea man
06:40 Voli: clicking strong sounds feels good
06:41 Voli: and tbh im not sure about the diffgap
06:41 Voli: its kinda huge but i also kinda understand it
06:41 Voli: im a bit torn
06:42 Renumi: ah yeah, truth be told i'm kind of planning to find someome to make an advanced diff or hyper of sorts :d
06:42 Voli: that'd be cool imo
06:42 Voli: cuz your spread now is like e-n-h-----------i
06:42 Renumi: yeah, then spread wouldn't be so-- exactly
06:42 Renumi: D:
06:42 Voli: first three diffs are very nicely lined up
06:43 Renumi: then insane is just.. there ahah
06:43 Voli: also how about OD5-6 on hard and OD7-8 on insane
06:43 Voli: the values are so low o.o
06:44 Voli: i mean hard is just 0,5 above normal
06:44 Renumi: i thought about semi-lowish settings for a.. kinda calm song but i think that's not too bright of an idea thinking about it now aa
06:44 Voli: oh yeah thats cool
06:44 Voli: lets keep that
06:44 Voli: but
06:44 Voli: just make them a biiit higher
06:44 Voli: 6 is really low tbh for an insane
06:45 Voli: 7 is still on the lowish side but more acceptable
06:45 Voli: and then you can make hard like 5 or 5,5 maybe?
06:46 Renumi: mmh, yeah alright i'll do that o:
06:46 Renumi: can i ask you for oooone more thing also?
06:46 Voli: yea sure
06:48 Renumi: alright so on the collab insane, do you think that the difficulty is pretty rounded out? i've had some complaints that my parts are a bit easier compared to the other collabers' parts but i'm not too sure what to think
06:48 Voli: idk which are your parts
06:48 Voli: but
06:48 Renumi: i start trading off every bookmark there :d
06:48 Voli: well in general the diff was pretty okay but..
06:48 Voli: the slow part
06:49 Voli: i think its overdone
06:49 Voli: in comparison to the rest of the map[
06:49 Renumi: 00:21:702 - here onward right?
06:49 Voli: 00:29:036 (7) - and these 1/8s are seriously just random
06:49 Voli: xD
06:49 Voli: yea
06:50 Renumi: i'd like to think it was following vocals but yeah the approach to do that was kinda random xD
06:50 Voli: even if its an insane
06:50 Renumi: that's not my part hh
06:50 Voli: i'd like to see..
06:50 Voli: some kind of contrast between the slow part
06:50 Voli: and the rest of the mnap
06:50 Voli: and rn theres almost none
06:50 Voli: because the rhythm is almost as dense as the other parts
06:51 Voli: and the spacing is p much bigger than normal
06:51 Voli: LOL
06:51 Voli: 00:40:702 (1,2,3,4,5) - idk who mapped it but
06:52 Voli: long note patterns easily feel really aggressive already
06:52 Voli: when used in such a slow part
06:52 Voli: and with that much spacing in between them
06:52 Renumi: that belongs to the other mapper i collabed with ya
06:53 Renumi: i asked if he could nerf it and he didn't really do much xd
06:54 Renumi: but i kinda share the same concerns, map without that part is like 3 star something iirc
06:54 Renumi: can't remember if kiai applies but yeah :d
06:55 Voli: really?
06:55 Voli: omfg
06:55 Voli: yeah that aint good
06:55 Voli: xD
06:55 Voli: the slowest part shouldnt buff a map that much
06:56 Renumi: yep, yet there it is D:
06:56 Voli: yeee hmm
06:56 Voli: that mapper is still active?
06:57 Renumi: yeah, he's online right now actually
06:57 Renumi: ign is Ora :d
06:57 Voli: yeah maybe try to
06:57 Voli: sort that out with him xD
06:58 Renumi: i'll try to get a hold of him yeah xD
06:58 Renumi: 01:00:369 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - btw thanks for complimenting my jumps
06:58 Voli: yea thats a nice pattern
06:58 Voli: fits well
06:59 Renumi: hooray
06:59 Renumi: well i think that's all, thanks for elaborating further!
07:00 Renumi: i really appreciate it
07:00 Voli: yea np
07:03 Renumi: think this log should be posted to thread or nay?
07:03 Voli: if you want
07:03 Voli: i dont rly mind
07:04 Voli: i can put it in my post if you want me to
07:05 Renumi: i'd appreciate that a lot hhhh