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Noffy
Mod from the Christmas Queue!


even though it's not in the map list yet edit: and it wont be til the set is finished jon plz


irc
trigger warning: includes roasting of cheeto sliders
20:38 Noffy: sure >:3
20:39 Jonawaga: yeah
20:39 Noffy: well I mean if I can actually find anything sure xD
20:39 Noffy: 00:15:332 (1) - why isn't this slider symmetrical on the y axis this is an affront to symmetry
20:39 *Noffy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This (Nightcore Mix) [Easy]]
20:40 Jonawaga: why isn't widescreen support on
20:41 Jonawaga: ah true
20:41 Jonawaga: ok just a sec
20:41 Jonawaga: why isn't there world peace
20:41 Noffy: because it has yet to be done
20:42 Jonawaga: fixed
20:42 Jonawaga: tru
20:42 Noffy: :3
20:42 Noffy: 00:07:265 (1,2) - how come you used 1.2 spacing here and 00:09:281 (3,4) - here?
20:43 Jonawaga: hm?
20:43 Jonawaga: easy or normal?
20:43 Noffy: easy
20:45 Jonawaga: uh
20:45 Noffy: ?
20:45 Jonawaga: you're totally correct about this
20:45 Noffy: ya
20:45 Jonawaga: it's just hard to fix because blankets ans symmetry ;-;
20:46 Noffy: ;v;
20:46 Jonawaga: and*
20:46 Noffy: ikno
20:46 Jonawaga: 00:08:273 (2,1) - is it ok if this is 1.2x?
20:47 Noffy: I think so, it's less noticable when they're not as close together
20:47 Jonawaga: uh
20:47 Jonawaga: I made it
20:47 Noffy: !!
20:47 Jonawaga: 1.16x
20:47 Noffy: nice
20:47 Jonawaga: close enough!
20:47 Noffy: yes!
20:47 Noffy: 00:16:340 (2) - I think a shape like this would work better: http://puu.sh/stxTM/5bd308b5b3.jpg
20:48 Jonawaga: are u roasting my cheeto slider
20:48 Noffy: it gives the same general kind of movement while being a nice non-cheeto slider
20:48 Noffy: yus
20:48 Jonawaga: I totally agree
20:48 Noffy: 00:20:374 (2) - (copy paste the other 1 if you do)
20:50 Jonawaga: done
20:50 Jonawaga: fixed
20:50 Noffy: 00:32:475 (2,3) - these look a bit weak to somewhat-but-not-really-wave
20:50 Noffy: maybe http://puu.sh/sty3M/8a5180055a.jpg >:3
20:51 Jonawaga: that would make the flow 00:33:483 (3,4) - here worse
20:51 Jonawaga: but
20:52 Noffy: hmm or
20:52 Noffy: more intense waves
20:52 Jonawaga: it would make the flow 00:31:466 (1,2) - here better
20:52 Noffy: >:3
20:52 Jonawaga: HM
20:52 Noffy: HM
20:54 Jonawaga: waves intensified~
20:54 Noffy: !!
20:54 Noffy: yay
20:54 Jonawaga: and
20:54 Jonawaga: 00:35:500 (1) - fix stack
20:54 Noffy: !!
20:54 Noffy: 00:40:542 (2,3) - THESE R NICE
20:54 Jonawaga: thanks
20:55 Jonawaga: gotta love those blanketing wave functions
20:55 Jonawaga: used those in the mapping challenge :3
20:55 Noffy: :3
20:56 Jonawaga: btw I changed the circles to snowflakes
20:56 Jonawaga: ./barely/
20:56 Noffy: \barely?
20:56 Noffy: 00:49:617 (3) - try to revise this slider so that the center makes a nice teardrop shape?
20:56 Jonawaga: the shape is still pretty circular :p
20:56 Noffy: I see :3
20:58 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/stym6/72dca3f50e.jpg
20:58 Jonawaga: ya mean like that?
20:58 Jonawaga: it's a no if that's what you mean owo
20:58 Noffy: yes like that-
20:58 Noffy: o
20:58 Noffy: oki owo
20:58 Noffy: 01:10:794 (2) - what is this w;;w
20:59 Jonawaga: the tricurve slider >///<
20:59 Jonawaga: plz don't complain abou that
20:59 Jonawaga: it's beautiful
20:59 Noffy: oki
20:59 Noffy: then
21:00 Noffy: I think make the middle less intense
21:00 Jonawaga: it's a slider I used in this map
21:00 Noffy: http://puu.sh/styrX/338abcc5e6.jpg
21:00 *Jonawaga is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907975 monaca:factory feat. Hatsune Miku & GUMI - Guu-Paa Star [Hard]]
21:00 Jonawaga: ok
21:00 Jonawaga: but not /too/ unintense
21:01 Noffy: yea!
21:01 Jonawaga: cuz then it plays like a straight line owo
21:01 Noffy: yeah xD
21:01 Noffy: just so it's more obviously a tricurve! cause the ones on the edge are barely curves compared to the middle
21:02 Noffy: o1:30:810 - why the manually extended break?
21:02 Jonawaga: fir impact
21:02 Jonawaga: so BRING
21:02 Jonawaga: HIM INCENSE GOLD AND MYRRH
21:02 Noffy: 02:03:231 (2) -
21:02 Noffy: omg
21:03 Noffy: 02:09:281 (2) - this isn't exactly symmetrical btw right is higher than left
21:04 Jonawaga: fixed
21:04 Noffy: 02:22:391 (1,2,3,4) - o no it's the beginning
21:05 Jonawaga: xd
21:05 Noffy: xd
21:06 Jonawaga: can we take a short break for me to ask questions?
21:06 Jonawaga: a) is it bad that I only use whistle and finishes?
21:06 Jonawaga: b) is my timing at the end correct?
21:08 Noffy: I beleive the timing at the end is correct
21:08 Jonawaga: !
21:08 Jonawaga: yay
21:08 Noffy: the hitsounding sounds nice and goes well with it since it's all piano+vocal
21:09 Jonawaga: it's piano+vocal+strings if I'm correct owo
21:09 Noffy: yes owo
21:10 Jonawaga: 01:12:811 -
21:10 Jonawaga: occasional triangle
21:10 Jonawaga: bell
21:10 Jonawaga: whatever that chime is
21:10 Jonawaga: 01:25:920 -
21:10 Jonawaga: and a guitar!
21:11 Noffy: but _mostly_
21:11 Jonawaga: yeah
21:11 Jonawaga: mostly
21:11 Jonawaga: anyway, onto normal!
21:11 Noffy: !
21:12 Noffy: lemme play it through again to get a feel for it overall first
21:12 Noffy: :3
21:12 Jonawaga: oki
21:12 Jonawaga: uwu
21:12 Jonawaga: you're testing
21:12 Noffy: uwu
21:12 Jonawaga: I was hoping to spec
21:12 Noffy: yes
21:12 Noffy: so if something drives me insane I can instapause and be like
21:12 Noffy: "YO
21:12 Jonawaga: xd
21:13 Noffy: 00:11:298 (1,2,3,4) - i.e. why aren't these 1/1 sliders like 00:13:315 (5) -
21:14 Noffy: ok I'll play-play it now xD
21:15 *Noffy is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This (Nightcore Mix) [Normal]]
21:15 Noffy: >:3
21:16 Jonawaga: srry had to step out owo
21:16 Noffy: welcome back owo
21:17 Jonawaga: thanks
21:17 Jonawaga: rhythmic variety
21:17 Noffy: wait brb GONNA GET PIE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
21:17 Jonawaga: lit
21:17 Jonawaga: it was to emphasize the strings while still making 00:11:970 - this clikcable
21:22 Noffy: ahhh I sees
21:22 Noffy: also back
21:22 Noffy: hi
21:25 Noffy: in that case, it's kind of odd that the circles don't follow the curve of the sliders
21:26 Noffy: and I reccomend trying to find a way to make them do so, cause currently having them a bit out of the way makes it weirdish to play ;
21:28 Jonawaga: fixed
21:28 Noffy: 00:57:685 (1,2) - (same thing)
21:28 Jonawaga: continue plz
21:28 Noffy: 01:01:718 (1,2) - pl z
21:30 Jonawaga: an it improves after that!
21:30 Noffy: :D!
21:32 Noffy: 01:54:155 (1,2) - ;w;
21:32 Jonawaga: it's a copy/paste section
21:32 Noffy: overall
21:32 Noffy: this diff is nice
21:32 Noffy: :D
21:32 Noffy: yeah I noticed xD
21:32 Jonawaga: I just finished redoing the copy/paste section
21:32 Jonawaga: thanks
21:32 Noffy: 02:26:424 (1,2,3,4) - same for
21:33 Noffy: copypastesectrions
21:34 Jonawaga: arenowfixed
21:34 Jonawaga: i
21:34 Jonawaga: i assumed you're done
21:34 Noffy: yes
21:34 Jonawaga: uploading
21:34 Jonawaga: done
21:34 Noffy: I am gonna post mod
21:34 Noffy: nao
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Noffy wrote:

Mod from the Christmas Queue!


even though it's not in the map list yet


irc
trigger warning: includes roasting of cheeto sliders
20:38 Noffy: sure >:3
20:39 Jonawaga: yeah
20:39 Noffy: well I mean if I can actually find anything sure xD
20:39 Noffy: 00:15:332 (1) - why isn't this slider symmetrical on the y axis this is an affront to symmetry
20:39 *Noffy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This (Nightcore Mix) [Easy]]
20:40 Jonawaga: why isn't widescreen support on
20:41 Jonawaga: ah true
20:41 Jonawaga: ok just a sec
20:41 Jonawaga: why isn't there world peace
20:41 Noffy: because it has yet to be done
20:42 Jonawaga: fixed
20:42 Jonawaga: tru
20:42 Noffy: :3
20:42 Noffy: 00:07:265 (1,2) - how come you used 1.2 spacing here and 00:09:281 (3,4) - here?
20:43 Jonawaga: hm?
20:43 Jonawaga: easy or normal?
20:43 Noffy: easy
20:45 Jonawaga: uh
20:45 Noffy: ?
20:45 Jonawaga: you're totally correct about this
20:45 Noffy: ya
20:45 Jonawaga: it's just hard to fix because blankets ans symmetry ;-;
20:46 Noffy: ;v;
20:46 Jonawaga: and*
20:46 Noffy: ikno
20:46 Jonawaga: 00:08:273 (2,1) - is it ok if this is 1.2x?
20:47 Noffy: I think so, it's less noticable when they're not as close together
20:47 Jonawaga: uh
20:47 Jonawaga: I made it
20:47 Noffy: !!
20:47 Jonawaga: 1.16x
20:47 Noffy: nice
20:47 Jonawaga: close enough!
20:47 Noffy: yes!
20:47 Noffy: 00:16:340 (2) - I think a shape like this would work better: http://puu.sh/stxTM/5bd308b5b3.jpg
20:48 Jonawaga: are u roasting my cheeto slider
20:48 Noffy: it gives the same general kind of movement while being a nice non-cheeto slider
20:48 Noffy: yus
20:48 Jonawaga: I totally agree
20:48 Noffy: 00:20:374 (2) - (copy paste the other 1 if you do)
20:50 Jonawaga: done
20:50 Jonawaga: fixed
20:50 Noffy: 00:32:475 (2,3) - these look a bit weak to somewhat-but-not-really-wave
20:50 Noffy: maybe http://puu.sh/sty3M/8a5180055a.jpg >:3
20:51 Jonawaga: that would make the flow 00:33:483 (3,4) - here worse
20:51 Jonawaga: but
20:52 Noffy: hmm or
20:52 Noffy: more intense waves
20:52 Jonawaga: it would make the flow 00:31:466 (1,2) - here better
20:52 Noffy: >:3
20:52 Jonawaga: HM
20:52 Noffy: HM
20:54 Jonawaga: waves intensified~
20:54 Noffy: !!
20:54 Noffy: yay
20:54 Jonawaga: and
20:54 Jonawaga: 00:35:500 (1) - fix stack
20:54 Noffy: !!
20:54 Noffy: 00:40:542 (2,3) - THESE R NICE
20:54 Jonawaga: thanks
20:55 Jonawaga: gotta love those blanketing wave functions
20:55 Jonawaga: used those in the mapping challenge :3
20:55 Noffy: :3
20:56 Jonawaga: btw I changed the circles to snowflakes
20:56 Jonawaga: ./barely/
20:56 Noffy: \barely?
20:56 Noffy: 00:49:617 (3) - try to revise this slider so that the center makes a nice teardrop shape?
20:56 Jonawaga: the shape is still pretty circular :p
20:56 Noffy: I see :3
20:58 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/stym6/72dca3f50e.jpg
20:58 Jonawaga: ya mean like that?
20:58 Jonawaga: it's a no if that's what you mean owo
20:58 Noffy: yes like that-
20:58 Noffy: o
20:58 Noffy: oki owo
20:58 Noffy: 01:10:794 (2) - what is this w;;w
20:59 Jonawaga: the tricurve slider >///<
20:59 Jonawaga: plz don't complain abou that
20:59 Jonawaga: it's beautiful
20:59 Noffy: oki
20:59 Noffy: then
21:00 Noffy: I think make the middle less intense
21:00 Jonawaga: it's a slider I used in this map
21:00 Noffy: http://puu.sh/styrX/338abcc5e6.jpg
21:00 *Jonawaga is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/907975 monaca:factory feat. Hatsune Miku & GUMI - Guu-Paa Star [Hard]]
21:00 Jonawaga: ok
21:00 Jonawaga: but not /too/ unintense
21:01 Noffy: yea!
21:01 Jonawaga: cuz then it plays like a straight line owo
21:01 Noffy: yeah xD
21:01 Noffy: just so it's more obviously a tricurve! cause the ones on the edge are barely curves compared to the middle
21:02 Noffy: o1:30:810 - why the manually extended break?
21:02 Jonawaga: fir impact
21:02 Jonawaga: so BRING
21:02 Jonawaga: HIM INCENSE GOLD AND MYRRH
21:02 Noffy: 02:03:231 (2) -
21:02 Noffy: omg
21:03 Noffy: 02:09:281 (2) - this isn't exactly symmetrical btw right is higher than left
21:04 Jonawaga: fixed
21:04 Noffy: 02:22:391 (1,2,3,4) - o no it's the beginning
21:05 Jonawaga: xd
21:05 Noffy: xd
21:06 Jonawaga: can we take a short break for me to ask questions?
21:06 Jonawaga: a) is it bad that I only use whistle and finishes?
21:06 Jonawaga: b) is my timing at the end correct?
21:08 Noffy: I beleive the timing at the end is correct
21:08 Jonawaga: !
21:08 Jonawaga: yay
21:08 Noffy: the hitsounding sounds nice and goes well with it since it's all piano+vocal
21:09 Jonawaga: it's piano+vocal+strings if I'm correct owo
21:09 Noffy: yes owo
21:10 Jonawaga: 01:12:811 -
21:10 Jonawaga: occasional triangle
21:10 Jonawaga: bell
21:10 Jonawaga: whatever that chime is
21:10 Jonawaga: 01:25:920 -
21:10 Jonawaga: and a guitar!
21:11 Noffy: but _mostly_
21:11 Jonawaga: yeah
21:11 Jonawaga: mostly
21:11 Jonawaga: anyway, onto normal!
21:11 Noffy: !
21:12 Noffy: lemme play it through again to get a feel for it overall first
21:12 Noffy: :3
21:12 Jonawaga: oki
21:12 Jonawaga: uwu
21:12 Jonawaga: you're testing
21:12 Noffy: uwu
21:12 Jonawaga: I was hoping to spec
21:12 Noffy: yes
21:12 Noffy: so if something drives me insane I can instapause and be like
21:12 Noffy: "YO
21:12 Jonawaga: xd
21:13 Noffy: 00:11:298 (1,2,3,4) - i.e. why aren't these 1/1 sliders like 00:13:315 (5) -
21:14 Noffy: ok I'll play-play it now xD
21:15 *Noffy is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This (Nightcore Mix) [Normal]]
21:15 Noffy: >:3
21:16 Jonawaga: srry had to step out owo
21:16 Noffy: welcome back owo
21:17 Jonawaga: thanks
21:17 Jonawaga: rhythmic variety
21:17 Noffy: wait brb GONNA GET PIE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
21:17 Jonawaga: lit
21:17 Jonawaga: it was to emphasize the strings while still making 00:11:970 - this clikcable
21:22 Noffy: ahhh I sees
21:22 Noffy: also back
21:22 Noffy: hi
21:25 Noffy: in that case, it's kind of odd that the circles don't follow the curve of the sliders
21:26 Noffy: and I reccomend trying to find a way to make them do so, cause currently having them a bit out of the way makes it weirdish to play ;
21:28 Jonawaga: fixed
21:28 Noffy: 00:57:685 (1,2) - (same thing)
21:28 Jonawaga: continue plz
21:28 Noffy: 01:01:718 (1,2) - pl z
21:30 Jonawaga: an it improves after that!
21:30 Noffy: :D!
21:32 Noffy: 01:54:155 (1,2) - ;w;
21:32 Jonawaga: it's a copy/paste section
21:32 Noffy: overall
21:32 Noffy: this diff is nice
21:32 Noffy: :D
21:32 Noffy: yeah I noticed xD
21:32 Jonawaga: I just finished redoing the copy/paste section
21:32 Jonawaga: thanks
21:32 Noffy: 02:26:424 (1,2,3,4) - same for
21:33 Noffy: copypastesectrions
21:34 Jonawaga: arenowfixed
21:34 Jonawaga: i
21:34 Jonawaga: i assumed you're done
21:34 Noffy: yes
21:34 Jonawaga: uploading
21:34 Jonawaga: done
21:34 Noffy: I am gonna post mod
21:34 Noffy: nao
thanks for modding fam
UndeadCapulet

General

Marianna missing in tags

idk what's up with ur sb but the bg is a different size during the break

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Blessing

00:59:029 (4,5) - these are really really close, to the point that i assumed they'd be 1/2 distance

uh i guess thats it, some weird stuff like how 02:22:391 (1) - is still 1.0x sv when the similar in intensity intro was .7x, but i guess there's reason for that so whateverr

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Normal

  1. 00:12:307 (3,4) - think you should try just this rhythm to fit the instrumental better, or if you really need to make that a repeat slider
  2. 01:19:870 - uh lol map this, it's too important of a beat to ignore just to follow strings...well i guess you can do like a 1/1 slider from 01:19:533 (4) - with a red point on the slidertick if you want for a similar effect that doesn't just totally ignore the downbeats you've been focusing on the rest of the map
  3. 02:17:349 (2) - probably big overlappy sliders like this are too scary for Normal-level players, you can do fun sliderart but try not to completely intersect like this since Normal-level players don't have a good idea of how sliders move to know which way they should travel at the intersection
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Easy

00:49:617 (3) - , 01:42:054 (3) - , same as in Normal about sliderart, even moreso for Easy-level players, heavy overlappy sliderart is confusing for people who can barely play a straight slider properly

and i think you should revise 02:03:231 (2) - 's design, it's really scrunched up to the point that the sliderbody doesn't properly connect to the sliderends

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i am sleepy sorry for sleepy mod
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

UndeadCapulet wrote:


General

Marianna missing in tags fixed

idk what's up with ur sb but the bg is a different size during the break ill just put in some fades I'm sure it'll be fine

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Normal

  1. 00:12:307 (3,4) - think you should try just this rhythm to fit the instrumental better, or if you really need to make that a repeat slider
  2. 01:19:870 - uh lol map this, it's too important of a beat to ignore just to follow strings...well i guess you can do like a 1/1 slider from 01:19:533 (4) - with a red point on the slidertick if you want for a similar effect that doesn't just totally ignore the downbeats you've been focusing on the rest of the map
  3. 02:17:349 (2) - probably big overlappy sliders like this are too scary for Normal-level players, you can do fun sliderart but try not to completely intersect like this since Normal-level players don't have a good idea of how sliders move to know which way they should travel at the intersection fixed all~
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Easy

00:49:617 (3) - , 01:42:054 (3) - , same as in Normal about sliderart, even moreso for Easy-level players, heavy overlappy sliderart is confusing for people who can barely play a straight slider properly fixed

and i think you should revise 02:03:231 (2) - 's design, it's really scrunched up to the point that the sliderbody doesn't properly connect to the sliderends adjusted slightly

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i am sleepy sorry for sleepy mod I was sleepy sorry for sleepy map.
Thanks for the mod >:3
Marianna
hello

Easy


  1. 00:11:298 - I think a whistle here would look great, because it would follow the violin


  2. 01:10:794 (2) - If you do this, it will be perfect <3 02:03:231 (2) - same xd


  3. 01:42:054 (3) - I think a long slider here does not go down very well, the vocals do not understand each other the last time you used them, so there's no need to do that


  4. 02:30:331 - A circle here would fit very well, would follow the sound of the instrumental perfectly


Normal



  1. 00:14:323 (5,6) - Maybe leaving a slider with a back to a circle is detrimental to the beauty of your map and worse, ruining the flow, I think this slider should be more "receptive" to the circle, leave it behind like this it is not good 00:14:996 (6,1) - This was super receptive and so the flow between these two 00:14:323 (5,1) - is not good at all


  2. 01:09:786 (1,3) - 02:02:223 (1,2) - The flow of these two sliders is not good at all, maybe it's because they're the same slider pointing to the same place, maybe it breaks their symmetrical style a bit, leaving the session a bit repetitive and ugly


  3. 01:17:685 - Here is one of the strongest beats on the map and you let it go, maybe that's a little bad in gameplay, wanting to click on that point and not be able to xd


  4. 01:28:945 - Leaves this break consistent with those of other difficulties, please xd


  5. 02:02:895 (1) - I do not think this is a good place for a NC, I advise you to remove it, for the sake of the consistency of your map xd


  6. 02:19:365 - Here is a hit too strong to be a simple slidertail


go go
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal
@Marianna fixed all except "01:10:794 (2) - If you do this, it will be perfect <3 02:03:231 (2) - same xd" because you didn't give a reason and it looked less attractive to me

Thanks for modding~!!
Ataraxia

Marianna wrote:

satancore
santavo come voce
Ataraxia
IRC Mod
2016-12-22 22:04 Ataraxia: i can mod the two diffs with you
2016-12-22 22:04 Jonawaga: yeah!
2016-12-22 22:04 Ataraxia: hey, what you think if i can do a portuguese mod with you ?
2016-12-22 22:05 Jonawaga: ....
2016-12-22 22:05 Jonawaga: a lot of translating
2016-12-22 22:05 Jonawaga: but let's go
2016-12-22 22:05 Ataraxia: HAHAHA
2016-12-22 22:05 Ataraxia: wait a minute
2016-12-22 22:05 Ataraxia: porque eu estou a aplicar mod (because in gonna apply a mod)
2016-12-22 22:05 Jonawaga: I see
2016-12-22 22:06 Ataraxia: Doone
2016-12-22 22:06 Ataraxia: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1082089 Perfume - Nee (short ver.) [Ataraxia's Light Insane]]
2016-12-22 22:06 Ataraxia: ooh wait
2016-12-22 22:07 Ataraxia: i miss a thing
2016-12-22 22:07 Ataraxia: Done
2016-12-22 22:08 Jonawaga: good job~
2016-12-22 22:09 Ataraxia: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2016-12-22 22:09 Ataraxia: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6873313
2016-12-22 22:10 Jonawaga: oh my
2016-12-22 22:10 Jonawaga: 22222222222222222
2016-12-22 22:10 Ataraxia: 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222
2016-12-22 22:10 Jonawaga: lets mod~
2016-12-22 22:10 Jonawaga: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Easy]]
2016-12-22 22:10 Ataraxia: o yas
2016-12-22 22:12 Ataraxia: omg its impossible mod easy, all easy is perfect maps
2016-12-22 22:13 Jonawaga: xd
2016-12-22 22:13 Jonawaga: thanks
2016-12-22 22:13 Jonawaga: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
2016-12-22 22:13 Ataraxia: this is so relaxing
2016-12-22 22:13 Ataraxia: you map remenber me MKGuh maps
2016-12-22 22:15 Ataraxia: oooh wait jonny
2016-12-22 22:15 Ataraxia: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Easy]]
2016-12-22 22:15 Ataraxia: nazy thing : 02:09:281 (2) - fix stack
2016-12-22 22:15 Ataraxia: FINALLY I FOUND A THING
2016-12-22 22:17 Jonawaga: omg
2016-12-22 22:17 Jonawaga: calm down
2016-12-22 22:17 Jonawaga: fixed fixed
2016-12-22 22:17 Ataraxia: Yesssssss
2016-12-22 22:20 Ataraxia: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
2016-12-22 22:23 Ataraxia: 02:04:239 (1,2) -
2016-12-22 22:23 Ataraxia: holy this is perfect
2016-12-22 22:23 Ataraxia: how u do thisssssssss
2016-12-22 22:23 Jonawaga: ctrl+g patterns
2016-12-22 22:23 Ataraxia: hehe
2016-12-22 22:24 Jonawaga: I map it backwards then ctrl+g
2016-12-22 22:24 Jonawaga: thanks :3
2016-12-22 22:24 Jonawaga: I hope you find something besides the stacks lol
2016-12-22 22:25 Ataraxia: i think this 02:14:996 (6,7) - need be like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6873400 this]
2016-12-22 22:25 Ataraxia: to follow all map sense
2016-12-22 22:26 Jonawaga: it's called flow lol
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: ooooh
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: i see now
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: my b
2016-12-22 22:27 Jonawaga: xd fixed
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: xdddd
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: soo
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: its this HAHAHA
2016-12-22 22:27 Ataraxia: i will gonna do the irc with the mari now
2016-12-22 22:28 Jonawaga: cool
2016-12-22 22:28 Jonawaga: good luck~!
2016-12-22 22:28 Jonawaga: make sure he checks the other mods too ^^
2016-12-22 22:28 Ataraxia: completed
2016-12-22 22:28 Ataraxia: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6873416
2016-12-22 22:28 Ataraxia: in good modder
LMT
mod w
19:51 LMT1996: umm first off, there's a timing issue
19:51 Jonawaga: oh dang
19:51 Jonawaga: what did I do?
19:51 LMT1996: uh
19:51 LMT1996: just halve the bpm
19:51 LMT1996: and double the sv
19:51 Jonawaga: hm?
19:52 LMT1996: the bpm is in fact 89.25
19:52 Jonawaga: exaplin
19:52 Jonawaga: what
19:52 LMT1996: check the downbeats :d
19:53 Jonawaga: ono
19:53 Jonawaga: I can't really
19:53 Jonawaga: halve a 3/4 song
19:53 Jonawaga: won't I have to third it?
19:53 LMT1996: nvm
19:53 Jonawaga: idk im not good at math anymore
19:53 LMT1996: leave it like that
19:53 LMT1996: it's probably not so important
19:54 LMT1996: the ending tho
19:54 LMT1996: not precise enough
19:54 Jonawaga: hopefully owo
19:57 LMT1996: uhh
19:57 LMT1996: try
19:57 LMT1996: 02:27:432 - 150bpm
19:57 LMT1996: 02:28:632 - 142bpm
19:57 LMT1996: 02:29:899 - 132bpm
19:57 LMT1996: unless someone else timed this for you then you'll probably want to consult that person
19:58 Jonawaga: nah it was self timed
19:59 LMT1996: 00:28:105 (2,3) - spacing :d
20:01 LMT1996: 00:40:542 (2,3) - ctrl+g for rhythm and rearrange so that the sliderhead has the correct emphasis https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880004
20:03 LMT1996: 00:58:357 (2) - sliderhead isn't really on a strong beat (and ends on a stronger beat, which is more concerning)
20:04 Jonawaga: 00:40:542 (2,3) - here you messed up the spacing
20:04 Jonawaga: should be 1.2x
20:04 LMT1996: i was just trying to get the message across
20:04 LMT1996: don't mind the placement xd
20:05 Jonawaga: I see
20:05 Jonawaga: fixed all so far
20:05 LMT1996: 00:58:357 (2,3,4) - i actually think you have to come up with a different pattern here
20:06 LMT1996: since right now that double blanket doesn't emphasise anything recognisable
20:06 LMT1996: the first 2 makes sense, but the third one should be separate
20:09 LMT1996: 01:49:786 (3,4,1) - probably want to space it evenly since that is a potential misread?
20:09 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ25M/580d9aaded.jpg
20:09 Jonawaga: weird stack pattern ftw
20:09 Jonawaga: yeah
20:10 Jonawaga: fixed
20:12 LMT1996: 01:10:794 (1,2,3) - would buff the note density here a bit up
20:12 LMT1996: 01:11:802 (1,2,3,1) - so it's more fitting to this
20:13 LMT1996: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880104
20:13 LMT1996: 01:13:819 (1,2,3,4) - seems unstructured
20:14 LMT1996: comparing with the rest of the patterns the clicking pattern is very different
20:14 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs. 01:13:819 (1,2,3,4,5) - , even tho there isn't something that stands out
20:15 LMT1996: 01:16:844 (4,5,6) - this is good tho because of the violin
20:15 Jonawaga: yeah definetly
20:15 LMT1996: 01:24:575 (3) - should be another 1/2 slider because consistency
20:16 Jonawaga: idea on how to fix 01:13:819 -
20:17 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (1,2,3,4) - sth like this
20:17 LMT1996: i'll give it a try
20:19 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ2EQ/d1c3cc437c.jpg
20:19 Jonawaga: this is bad cuz the reverse
20:19 LMT1996: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6880153 try mine
20:21 Jonawaga: ay yours is cool
20:21 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/sZ2MB/158ae2f574.jpg
20:21 Jonawaga: this was my other
20:21 Jonawaga: but I like yours
20:22 LMT1996: that gap is probably too inconsistent with the rest of the rhythm pattern?
20:22 LMT1996: i'm talking about your other
20:23 LMT1996: 02:19:365 (1) - that extra spacing is probably not needed
20:23 LMT1996: but that's not really important
20:24 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
20:25 LMT1996: 00:11:298 (1,2,3) - why such different rhythm with 00:13:315 (4,5,6) -
20:27 Jonawaga: ok finally done with blessing wew
20:27 LMT1996: 01:19:533 (4) - 2 circles?
20:28 Jonawaga: because the piano does different things there
20:28 LMT1996: or
20:28 LMT1996: 01:18:861 (3) - this can be different
20:28 LMT1996: sec this is a bit hard
20:28 Jonawaga: at 1:18 fixed
20:29 Jonawaga: 00:11:298 (1,2,3) - this i dont get
20:29 LMT1996: so
20:29 LMT1996: the only different piano note i hear is this
20:29 LMT1996: 00:13:987 -
20:29 LMT1996: higher pitch than the previous
20:30 Jonawaga: oh
20:30 LMT1996: 00:12:307 (3) - this and 00:14:323 (5,6) - this are the same imo
20:30 LMT1996: also
20:30 LMT1996: 00:14:323 (5,6) - if these were just a slider
20:30 LMT1996: 00:14:996 (7,1) - these 2 can be more distinct
20:30 LMT1996: which is what the vocal is donig
20:30 LMT1996: doing*
20:31 LMT1996: 00:30:794 (6,7) - would make this a slider to differentiate from the rest of the notes
20:32 LMT1996: differentiate the 2 high pitch notes*
20:32 Jonawaga: I made
20:32 Jonawaga: 00:14:323 - / 00:14:659 - 1 slider
20:32 LMT1996: cool
20:33 Jonawaga: xd
20:33 Jonawaga: keep it going~
20:33 LMT1996: 01:15:836 (4,5) - 01:13:819 (1) - same as in blessing
20:34 Jonawaga: oh is is
20:34 Jonawaga: less structured?
20:35 LMT1996: yea has a completely different clicking pattern
20:35 LMT1996: kinda confusing
20:36 LMT1996: 01:49:113 (4) - nice slider but...
20:36 LMT1996: don't think lowering note density here fits the music
20:37 LMT1996: also the flow could be awkward
20:37 LMT1996: when it needs to be straightforward
20:37 Jonawaga: lol I'm still figuring out how to fix 01:14:491 (2) - this
20:37 Jonawaga: think I just got it
20:38 LMT1996: eh
20:38 LMT1996: i'd literally copy paste 01:15:836 (5,6) -
20:38 LMT1996: xd
20:38 LMT1996: you figured that out , it's good then
20:38 Jonawaga: ya and then I spend 1 minute staring at it
20:38 Jonawaga: until I realized about Ctrl+g
20:39 LMT1996: :D
20:39 LMT1996: i just ctrl+ j
20:39 LMT1996: or k i can't remember
20:39 Jonawaga: not even
20:39 Jonawaga: it's a literal copy/paste pattern
20:39 Jonawaga: and a minor ds change
20:40 LMT1996: yup xD
20:40 Jonawaga: 01:49:113 (4) - why do you wanna change this and not 00:56:676 (4) - this/
20:41 LMT1996: i missed it
20:41 LMT1996: xD
20:41 LMT1996: you probably want to change that too
20:41 Jonawaga: xd
20:42 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131245 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Easy]]
20:42 LMT1996: 00:31:466 (1,4) - um not sure why the difference
20:43 LMT1996: there is a difference, but how you make it distinguishable isn't really "emphasised" here
20:44 Jonawaga: higher pitch made me excited lol
20:44 LMT1996: yup
20:44 LMT1996: but
20:44 Jonawaga: fixed
20:44 LMT1996: nice
20:44 LMT1996: 00:31:466 (1) - tbh
20:44 LMT1996: a better thing would be
20:45 LMT1996: just a 1/1 slider + a circle on that high pitch
20:45 LMT1996: but that's probably too hard to fix
20:45 Jonawaga: i don't wanna do that anyway
20:45 LMT1996: 00:34:491 (4) - that or you can break this up to 1/1 + 1 circle for the vocals
20:45 Jonawaga: simple 1 click reverse slider of 2/1 slider makes sense to me
20:46 Jonawaga: or*
20:48 LMT1996: 01:44:071 (1,2,3,4) - you stress the second beat instead of the first but 01:47:096 (1,2,3,4) - here you stress the first beat
20:48 LMT1996: i think it should be the other way round?
20:48 LMT1996: cus instruments stress the second one while the vocals stress the first
20:49 LMT1996: 02:07:265 (4,1) - sorry for breaking that symmetry but these shouldn't have the same representative pattern as these 02:04:239 (1,2) -
20:54 LMT1996: once you're done can you update the map?
20:54 LMT1996: I'd like to see how they play
20:56 Jonawaga: fixed fixed sure
20:56 LMT1996: xD
20:56 Jonawaga: it's up
20:58 LMT1996: top diff feels a lot better now
20:59 Jonawaga: updating again I forgot a combo
20:59 Jonawaga: yeah thanks ;3
20:59 Jonawaga: now I will be able to take some credit for that
21:00 LMT1996: 00:58:693 (2,3) - this is still cancer to play tho xd
21:00 Jonawaga: Marianna's Blessing mapped by Marianna
21:00 Jonawaga: and modded by Jonawaga
21:00 Jonawaga: thi-is is
21:00 LMT1996: 01:00:374 (3) - i'd also make this clean
21:01 Jonawaga: not thi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-s is
21:01 LMT1996: :p
21:01 LMT1996: it would be more intuitive tho
21:01 LMT1996: 00:58:861 (3) - if you stacked this to (2)
21:01 LMT1996: but that's a concept you have to use consistently
21:01 LMT1996: which this map doesn't use that
21:02 Jonawaga: yeah ><
21:02 LMT1996: so going clean there is the best option i can think of
21:02 Jonawaga: just gotta change the patterns
21:02 LMT1996: tbh i like how this diff flows
21:02 LMT1996: it's just the rhythm was weird
21:04 LMT1996: 01:14:659 (3,4) - careful xd overlapping
21:04 LMT1996: the stack ruined it lol
21:04 Jonawaga: unstacked~
21:05 *LMT1996 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1131246 Jewel - What Child Is This? (Speed Up Ver.) [Normal]]
21:05 LMT1996: check your snapping
21:05 LMT1996: :V
21:05 LMT1996: actually
21:05 LMT1996: SV = 0.9 fixes it
21:06 LMT1996: shit
21:06 LMT1996: something
21:06 LMT1996: went horribly wrong
21:06 LMT1996: actually yeah 0.9 fixes most of them
21:07 LMT1996: wait wut
21:07 LMT1996: what's going on
21:08 LMT1996: the sv after the first kiai is correct
21:08 LMT1996: everything before that is unsnapped wtf
21:09 Jonawaga: did you notice the SV changes?
21:10 LMT1996: i noticed it or not
21:10 LMT1996: the sv right now is rip
21:10 Jonawaga: hm? not on my end
21:10 LMT1996: resubmit it?
21:11 LMT1996: Normal diff i'm saying
21:11 Jonawaga: ohhhh
21:12 LMT1996: yup something went horribly wrong in the normal diff
21:12 LMT1996: just resnap them i guess
21:14 Jonawaga: timing > recalc slider lenths
21:14 LMT1996: wew
21:15 Jonawaga: also fixed the cancer in belssing
21:15 LMT1996: :3
21:15 LMT1996: nice
21:16 LMT1996: that's probably it from it
Mafumafu
M4M.

[General]
Why not silence the sliderslide?
Why you used PNG format for your BG? Convert it to JPG and it will save a lot of space!

Could you explain: https://puu.sh/tlFX5/264719f55d.png ?

[Easy]
02:19:365 (1) - Add a break after this note to keep consistency with other diffs.

[Blessing]
OD+1
00:34:491 (3) - Wrong snap on its end.
00:42:559 (2,1) - Blanket should be better.
00:58:693 (2,3,4) - Flow could be much better if you try this: https://puu.sh/tlFEr/2d85a6bbe1.png
01:01:718 (1,2) - Blanket does need to be improved.
01:20:878 (3,4) - They are too close, as to their sliderbody. Try this: https://puu.sh/tlFJi/740dad5564.png
02:17:349 (3) - Need a whistle on its head i guess.
02:19:365 (1) - Add a break after this note to prevent unexpected HP drain.
02:31:262 (1) - Adding a whistle would sounds great!

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Call me back when you get metadata confirmed!
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal
Just in time for Christmas.

Regraz wrote:

M4M.

[General]
Why not silence the sliderslide? Fixed~!
Why you used PNG format for your BG? Convert it to JPG and it will save a lot of space! Transparency for the storyboard, since I use the background in the storyboard with fading effects

Could you explain: https://puu.sh/tlFX5/264719f55d.png ? It appears that way inside the editor, but it goes away during gameplay

[Easy]
02:19:365 (1) - Add a break after this note to keep consistency with other diffs. Fixed~!

[Blessing]
OD+1 Fixed~!
00:34:491 (3) - Wrong snap on its end. Fixed~!
00:42:559 (2,1) - Blanket should be better. Fixed~!
00:58:693 (2,3,4) - Flow could be much better if you try this: https://puu.sh/tlFEr/2d85a6bbe1.png Changed differently
01:01:718 (1,2) - Blanket does need to be improved. Fixed~!
01:20:878 (3,4) - They are too close, as to their sliderbody. Try this: https://puu.sh/tlFJi/740dad5564.png Fixed~!
02:17:349 (3) - Need a whistle on its head i guess. Fixed~!
02:19:365 (1) - Add a break after this note to prevent unexpected HP drain. Fixed~!
02:31:262 (1) - Adding a whistle would sounds great! Fixed~!

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Call me back when you get metadata confirmed! http://www.jeweljk.com/music.html
Thank you so much for modding!
Mafumafu
Bubbled!
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Regraz wrote:

Bubbled!
thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u
pishifat
are you waiting til next christmas to rank this lol
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

pishifat wrote:

are you waiting til next christmas to rank this lol
Pretty much
Bonsai
holy shit you've ruined Christmas Greensleeves, can't unhear this ;_;

On a more serious note, why is it still called "Nightcore Mix", even though MkGuh already pointed out that it should be "Speed Up Ver."? o:
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Bonsai wrote:

holy shit you've ruined Christmas Greensleeves, can't unhear this ;_;

On a more serious note, why is it still called "Nightcore Mix", even though MkGuh already pointed out that it should be "Speed Up Ver."? o:
After receiving his advice, I asked KwaN for a metadata check to be more certain. Her reply:

IamKwaN wrote:

Sound like a Nightcore Version to me, as the pitch is higher than the original version while Speed Up Ver. only indicates the bpm turns faster.

so, probably something like this as the title is more appropriate:

What Child Is This? (Nightcore Mix)
And thus, we have our title.
Bonsai
Seems like we've got ourselves a rare case of KwaN being wrong, because raising the speed automatically raises the pitch too, which is mentioned in the article MkGuh linked too (speed =/= tempo). Just look at all the examples that MkGuh provided and you'll see that the pitch is higher everywhere.
The process that a Nightcore- or a SpeedUp-version go through is 100% the same, the only relevant difference is the genre of the song, techno/trance/dance-songs being called Nightcore. That's how we've been treating this in osu! for a long time now and I've got a SpeedUp-song ranked myself just two months ago and had that discussion there too :P

Alas, my love, you do me wrong
IamKwaN
I never realize raising the speed goes along with higher pitch, thanks for letting me know!

Probably as a guideline in the metadata ranking criteria draft.
Can you list out some genres which would be suitable to use (Speed Up Ver.)?
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

Bonsai wrote:

Seems like we've got ourselves a rare case of KwaN being wrong, because raising the speed automatically raises the pitch too, which is mentioned in the article MkGuh linked too (speed =/= tempo). Just look at all the examples that MkGuh provided and you'll see that the pitch is higher everywhere.
The process that a Nightcore- or a SpeedUp-version go through is 100% the same, the only relevant difference is the genre of the song, techno/trance/dance-songs being called Nightcore. That's how we've been treating this in osu! for a long time now and I've got a SpeedUp-song ranked myself just two months ago and had that discussion there too :P

Alas, my love, you do me wrong
fixed >W<
Mafumafu
Nice knowledge
pishifat
so when do i rank
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

pishifat wrote:

so when do i rank
in less than 22 days :3
LMT
it's been a year already wat.
pishifat
nightcore
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal

pishifat wrote:

nightcore
Speed up ver.!

Thank you so much
My Senpai Rina
I like this
Topic Starter
Jonarwhal
First Ranked Map in 2018... Wow...
Noffy

Jonawaga wrote:

First Ranked Map in 2018... Wow...
wow!!! :D
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