Raphalge wrote:
heyyyyy cheeky m4m time, I'm not too good at modding so most of it will be subjective suggestions --- I believe there are good ones in those.
00:16:287 - to 00:32:287 - this amount of consecutive dons would probably feel weird for most people. Just a comment, up to you whether or not you want to change it. --- Well, if i try change these dons to kats, they won't fit well since the drums sounds are always lower except at the current kat notes.
00:45:857 (22) - for the sheer sake of aesthetics I'd change this to a d, I believe there drum hit here has a good pitch to support the change. And ending a stream on 3 of the same color just looks weird. --- Good idea, applied.
00:48:632 (44) - shouldn't this be a k? It sounds like it's the exact same pitch as 00:48:932 (48) - --- I mapped this pattern by looking guitar sounds, and the pitch is not the same actually.
01:07:832 (262) - change to d? mostly to simplify it, but also because (atleast to my ears) this guitar part goes "high-high-low-low-high" --- Sounded good, changed.
01:17:282 (331) - having this as a d makes the section flow better, though I can see you made it a k due to the vocals --- I know there is a kick sound at this spot but since the rhythm of the drums are the same on entire song, I thought that i can follow vocals at some parts to make variations. And this one doesn't feel wrong to me to be honest.
01:56:282 - i really like this stream--- Thanks!
02:01:232 (790) - change to k? --- Changed and 02:01:307 (791) - this note is deleted.
02:01:307 - delete? I hear no drum hit here.
02:03:482 (815) - even though it doesn't correspond with the drum sounds I think a k sounds much nicer here. --- I already used k k ddk pattern in this song and there is a strong kick to keep it as a don.
02:13:907 - delete? can't hear a drum hit here either. --- I know, but this map needs some variation.
02:15:257 - there is a drum hit here though. So maybe add one here? --- Whoops, missed it :3 Added a don.
02:17:732 (977) - k? drum sounds quite high pitched imo --- Yeap, there is a snare sound. Applied.
02:18:932 (993) - k here too? This one's up to you really. --- In that way it looks good imo.
02:49:832 (1296,1297,1298,1299) - these 4 dons feel a bit out of place. Though I don't know the best way of fixing it. --- I've tried to turn 02:49:907 (1300) - this to a kat but it didn't sound good so im keeping those.
02:52:532 (1326) - I suggest a k here for the same reason as 02:03:482 (815) - I'll keep it since there is a strong kick sound.
02:56:057 (1352) - k sounds better here imo --- At this section, the kat notes are decreasing pattern by pattern because the guitar sounds are going lower and lower constantly. So i used 3-2 and 2-1 kats.
02:58:157 (1361) - You can keep it if you want, but I suggest deleting it and having the triple somewhere like 02:58:457 - --- Instead of kkd d k, changed to d kdd k.
03:02:807 (1406) - move to 03:02:657 - , plays better I think --- Applied. Edited some stuff there to sound better too.
03:03:857 (1417) - k here? --- It's already k.
03:04:307 (1423) - think you should remove this --- Nope. But i changed the pattern as kkdkddk.
03:07:907 (1450) - delete? --- Applied.
03:08:882 (1459,1460,1461,1462,1463,1464,1465,1466,1467) - why is this so long?It stands out, but not in a good way I think. --- 03:09:107 (1462) - This note is deleted to shortener the pattern.
03:11:057 - add d? Declined with the one below. The kick sound exists at these sections but in this way they are good too.
03:13:457 - ^
03:27:857 - k? --- No. There is no snare sound.
03:50:282 (1893) - another k suggestion here, mostly cause I had when streams end in monocolor triples. --- Explained before.
05:18:707 (70,71) - inverting these sounds better imo --- 05:18:857 (72) - This note is intentional. It represents the higher guitar sound perfectly.
05:32:057 (225) - change this to k? another monotriple stream end :^( --- Well, this song has monotriple stream ends. So i changed this one to k.
05:27:332 - a pause here felt pretty unnatural, I'd suggest maybe moving 05:26:957 (160) - to here --- Well, since this part is guitar solo, I mainly followed the lead guitar, except heavy drum attacks. And that section, there is no lead guitar sound.
05:30:407 (202,203) - invert and change 05:30:932 (209) - to k? Not so sure about this one. --- Tried. Didn't sound good.
05:36:857 (259) - k sounds better here imo --- Instead, changed 05:36:932 (260) - this to kat.
05:51:482 (392) - k here because monotriple :^( --- Changed for the sake of the high lead guitar sound.
06:17:807 (698) - another k here to match 06:14:207 (654) - --- Fair enough, changed.
06:27:407 (776) - k cause monotriple :^^^^( --- This one I'll keep.
07:01:082 (1073) - ^ --- ^
07:10:607 (1191) - I suggest (ANOTHER) k here --- Since the drums are all snares, good idea.
07:14:882 (1238) - I recommend changing this to d and change 07:15:182 (1242,1243) - to d aswell. The current pattern sounds reallly weird --- 07:14:582 (1234,1236) - These ones represents the hi-hat sounds and 07:14:882 (1238) - this one is representing a snare sound.
07:21:932 (1312) - k here? --- There is a snare sound, applied.
07:38:057 (30) - k here too? --- Nope, the guitar sound is low enough to keep it as a don.
A lot of these suggestions mention drum hits and stuff, and they'll probably be declined. In your reply to Vulkin's mod you said "My style is mainly following vocals with drums where the drums are crazy (a.k.a twin pedal usage)", which for most of this map works fairly well. But there are some times when that leads to some pretty weird structure, and is fairly off-putting when playing the map. Those suggestions are good and fair, and that mod helped a lot, thanks!
Those streams are sexy tho Thank you! I worked a lot for them :3
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DragonForce - Operation Ground and Pound [Taiko]
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Topic Starter
>Tatsujin
* 00:16:287 - ~ 00:30:787 - not trying emphasize some flute? many dons but nvm tbh. just feels dull to hit don always
* 00:52:157 - kat cuz 00:53:357 - just brok the consistent of saame sounds, yeah you can do that "if" the sounds are spamming and boring
* 00:58:307 - that flow is started differ with previous spot such 00:57:107 - 00:57:707 - . so yes 00:58:307 - kat this to follow that differ flow
* 00:59:282 (171,174) - ctrl g, 00:58:532 (161,162,163,164,165,166,167) - similar sounds but 00:59:132 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175) - here is kdkdkdd
* 01:00:482 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - kkddkkddk
* 01:01:832 (205,206) - 01:02:132 (209,210) - same sounds, make same.. kd or kk
* from 01:37:082 - here :
needs more emphasize imo if there have many crowded sounds
* 01:56:282 (735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749,750,751) - :
neat for simple drum
* 02:29:882 (1079,1080,1081,1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089,1090,1091,1092,1093) - :
how about change to common pattern of Tatsujin? guitar sounds suit imo
* 02:31:082 (1094,1095,1096) - change these to don? I hear its have differ impact 02:31:682 (1097,1098,1099) - with these
* 02:45:482 (1242,1245) - like my previous suggestion, ctrl g
* 02:55:682 (1350,1351,1352,1353,1354,1355,1356) - kkdkddk more emphasize the guitar imo
* 03:04:232 (1422,1423,1424,1425,1426,1427,1428) - I think kkdkddk seems over for simple drum, change to kkddkkd?
* 03:23:882 (1618,1619,1620,1621,1622,1623,1624,1625,1626,1627,1628,1629,1630,1631,1632) - like my previous suggestion, but if you like to keep your current pattern I think thats fine. bcus kdkkdkddk pattern mostly just for guitar haha
* from 04:17:882 - here:
would you? guitar is suit imo
* 05:19:682 - wanna make 1/8 xx xx xx xx pattern from here? its really strong as 1/8 imo
* 06:35:207 - kat, flow of guitar are strong
* 07:21:932 - kat, layering the snare drum.. still strong to hear imo
* 07:31:082 - why not spinner???
really good version and I like this map because most of pattern are balance! well done mapped this
it seems your mapping influenced from Cry for Eternity map? lol
Good Luck!
* 00:16:287 - ~ 00:30:787 - not trying emphasize some flute? many dons but nvm tbh. just feels dull to hit don always
* 00:52:157 - kat cuz 00:53:357 - just brok the consistent of saame sounds, yeah you can do that "if" the sounds are spamming and boring
* 00:58:307 - that flow is started differ with previous spot such 00:57:107 - 00:57:707 - . so yes 00:58:307 - kat this to follow that differ flow
* 00:59:282 (171,174) - ctrl g, 00:58:532 (161,162,163,164,165,166,167) - similar sounds but 00:59:132 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175) - here is kdkdkdd
* 01:00:482 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - kkddkkddk
* 01:01:832 (205,206) - 01:02:132 (209,210) - same sounds, make same.. kd or kk
* from 01:37:082 - here :
needs more emphasize imo if there have many crowded sounds
* 01:56:282 (735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749,750,751) - :
neat for simple drum
* 02:29:882 (1079,1080,1081,1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089,1090,1091,1092,1093) - :
how about change to common pattern of Tatsujin? guitar sounds suit imo
* 02:31:082 (1094,1095,1096) - change these to don? I hear its have differ impact 02:31:682 (1097,1098,1099) - with these
* 02:45:482 (1242,1245) - like my previous suggestion, ctrl g
* 02:55:682 (1350,1351,1352,1353,1354,1355,1356) - kkdkddk more emphasize the guitar imo
* 03:04:232 (1422,1423,1424,1425,1426,1427,1428) - I think kkdkddk seems over for simple drum, change to kkddkkd?
* 03:23:882 (1618,1619,1620,1621,1622,1623,1624,1625,1626,1627,1628,1629,1630,1631,1632) - like my previous suggestion, but if you like to keep your current pattern I think thats fine. bcus kdkkdkddk pattern mostly just for guitar haha
* from 04:17:882 - here:
would you? guitar is suit imo
* 05:19:682 - wanna make 1/8 xx xx xx xx pattern from here? its really strong as 1/8 imo
* 06:35:207 - kat, flow of guitar are strong
* 07:21:932 - kat, layering the snare drum.. still strong to hear imo
* 07:31:082 - why not spinner???
really good version and I like this map because most of pattern are balance! well done mapped this
it seems your mapping influenced from Cry for Eternity map? lol
Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Surono wrote:
>Tatsujin
* 00:16:287 - ~ 00:30:787 - not trying emphasize some flute? many dons but nvm tbh. just feels dull to hit don always Good idea actually. Changed some notes to kat.
* 00:52:157 - kat cuz 00:53:357 - just brok the consistent of saame sounds, yeah you can do that "if" the sounds are spamming and boring Applied.
* 00:58:307 - that flow is started differ with previous spot such 00:57:107 - 00:57:707 - . so yes 00:58:307 - kat this to follow that differ flow I don't think that is neccesary because the stream is already various.
* 00:59:282 (171,174) - ctrl g, 00:58:532 (161,162,163,164,165,166,167) - similar sounds but 00:59:132 (169,170,171,172,173,174,175) - here is kdkdkdd Applied.
* 01:00:482 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - kkddkkddk Not really, there are 2 cymbals on kats. Changed to something else.
* 01:01:832 (205,206) - 01:02:132 (209,210) - same sounds, make same.. kd or kk Not neccesary, because there are many places like this on all of the DragonForce maps even the rhythm is only kdddkdddkdddk. I used it for variety.
* from 01:37:082 - here :
needs more emphasize imo if there have many crowded sounds Like this way it follows vocal + drums perfectly. In yours some of the vocal sounds are on dons and I didn't like it.
* 01:56:282 (735,736,737,738,739,740,741,742,743,744,745,746,747,748,749,750,751) - : Applied except the first one.
neat for simple drum
* 02:29:882 (1079,1080,1081,1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087,1088,1089,1090,1091,1092,1093) - : Personally, I don't like that pattern. Also, the double kk sounds are on strong cymbal sounds so i'm gonna keep it as it is now.
how about change to common pattern of Tatsujin? guitar sounds suit imo
* 02:31:082 (1094,1095,1096) - change these to don? I hear its have differ impact 02:31:682 (1097,1098,1099) - with these 02:31:082 (1094) - Changed this one only.
* 02:45:482 (1242,1245) - like my previous suggestion, ctrl g Done.
* 02:55:682 (1350,1351,1352,1353,1354,1355,1356) - kkdkddk more emphasize the guitar imo The guitar sounds are always going to low pitch and I decreased the kat sounds from the beginning to the end. I think it looks good.
* 03:04:232 (1422,1423,1424,1425,1426,1427,1428) - I think kkdkddk seems over for simple drum, change to kkddkkd? I don't know why the hell I mapped that part like that. Changed
* 03:23:882 (1618,1619,1620,1621,1622,1623,1624,1625,1626,1627,1628,1629,1630,1631,1632) - like my previous suggestion, but if you like to keep your current pattern I think thats fine. bcus kdkkdkddk pattern mostly just for guitar haha Well, I need to keep those not to break consistency.
* from 04:17:882 - here:
would you? guitar is suit imo Yeah, but this is my personal preference actually. I don't like duplets that coming this way on weird guitar sounds, so I'm gonna keep this spot as a blank + players need some break too.
* 05:19:682 - wanna make 1/8 xx xx xx xx pattern from here? its really strong as 1/8 imo Explained above.
* 06:35:207 - kat, flow of guitar are strong Sounds good, applied.
* 07:21:932 - kat, layering the snare drum.. still strong to hear imo Applied.
* 07:31:082 - why not spinner??? The vocal is strong, I want players keep pushing at that place
really good version and I like this map because most of pattern are balance! well done mapped this Thank you!
it seems your mapping influenced from Cry for Eternity map? lol Uhh... no :3
Good Luck! Nice mod, thanks!
birazcık,çok değil birazcık irc mod
02:21 *zigizigiefe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1182240 DragonForce - Operation Ground and Pound [Tatsujin]]
02:21 zigizigiefe: here we go
02:21 zigizigiefe: gel
02:21 frukoyurdakul: gayet iyi yorum aldım
02:22 frukoyurdakul: çok mutluyum lan şu an
02:22 zigizigiefe: ss'i atarsın
02:22 zigizigiefe: şimdi ilk olarak intro partın sv'sini 200 bpm'e eşitlemek için 0,85ten 0,83 yap
02:23 zigizigiefe: 200/240=83,3333333333......*sonu gelmeyen sayı yığını*
02:23 frukoyurdakul: 0.85 değil ki lan
02:23 frukoyurdakul: 1x
02:23 frukoyurdakul: orası
02:23 zigizigiefe: 00:00:287 -
02:23 frukoyurdakul: haa
02:23 frukoyurdakul: 0.85 miş
02:23 zigizigiefe: burada 0,85 sv var
02:23 frukoyurdakul: tamam gördüm
02:23 zigizigiefe: onu 0,83 yap
02:24 frukoyurdakul: yapıcam 1dk
02:24 frukoyurdakul: aslında dur
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 100 / 120
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 50 /60
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 25 / 30
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 5 / 6
02:24 zigizigiefe: yani
02:24 zigizigiefe: 83,33333333333
02:24 zigizigiefe: sdşfkghjsdljşkj
02:25 frukoyurdakul: aynen
02:25 frukoyurdakul:
02:25 zigizigiefe: mapi test ederken sürekli gözüme çarpan bir yer var
02:25 zigizigiefe: 00:32:162 (133) - bunun kat olması için iki sebebim var
02:26 zigizigiefe: 1-kddkddkkd,kddkddkdd gibi bir patternden daha düzgün bir pattern
02:26 zigizigiefe: 2-buradaki bateri sesiyle önceki aynı geldi
02:26 zigizigiefe: ne düşünüyorsun
02:27 frukoyurdakul: 1dk
02:27 frukoyurdakul: aynı değiller
02:27 frukoyurdakul: k olan çok az daha ince
02:27 frukoyurdakul: ayrıca consistency için yaptım biraz da
02:27 frukoyurdakul: artı, klavye sesi var, diğer kısımlarında da takip ettim
02:27 zigizigiefe: o zaman şöyle yapalım
02:28 zigizigiefe: 00:32:287 (134) - şunu kat finisher yap,çünkü burada cymbal sesi duydum ben
02:28 frukoyurdakul: yok klavye sesini siktiret
02:28 frukoyurdakul: gerek yok
02:28 frukoyurdakul: hepsinde cymbal sesi var
02:28 zigizigiefe: ikisini de reddettin dimi
02:28 frukoyurdakul: ritim gitar sesine göre don veya kat
02:28 frukoyurdakul: yaptım oraları
02:28 zigizigiefe:
02:28 frukoyurdakul: çoğu mapte böyle kullanılıyor çünkü
02:29 frukoyurdakul: senin dediğin gibi yapmaya kalkarsam bütün finisherları kat yapmam gerekir
02:29 frukoyurdakul: ciddi anlamda davulu vurgulamadıklarım dışında
02:29 zigizigiefe: mapi test ederken benim kafamı karıştıran bir kısım var
02:29 zigizigiefe: 00:48:482 - şunu silip sonraki ddkkk patternini buraya taşı,o gitar sesi buradan başlıyor ve 00:48:557 - burada boşluk olması garip görünüyor
02:30 frukoyurdakul: saçmalama lan
02:30 frukoyurdakul: ince gitar sesi orada değil
02:30 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:782 (46) -
02:30 frukoyurdakul: burada
02:30 zigizigiefe: biliyorum amk
02:30 frukoyurdakul: ben onu vurgulamak için kkk yaptım orayı
02:30 zigizigiefe: 00:48:557 - burada boşluk olması garip görünüyor
02:31 frukoyurdakul: ddddkkk bence uymuyor oraya
02:31 zigizigiefe: low,medium,high şeklinde gidiyor pitchler
02:31 frukoyurdakul: e tamam
02:31 frukoyurdakul: ben de diyorum ki orası gitarla alakalı değil
02:31 frukoyurdakul: bateriyle alakalı
02:31 frukoyurdakul: ve orada da bateri sesi yok
02:31 zigizigiefe: 00:48:557 - burada gitar sesi yokmuş gibi davranmışsın
02:31 frukoyurdakul: e yok çünkü amk D:
02:31 zigizigiefe: mapi test ederken kafamı karıştırmıştı
02:31 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:482 (43) -
02:31 frukoyurdakul: burada var
02:31 frukoyurdakul: senin dediğin yerde yok
02:32 zigizigiefe: neyse sıkıntı değil buralar
02:32 frukoyurdakul: bence de değil
02:32 zigizigiefe: 01:09:332 (269) - ozzynin bahsettiği slider bu olabilir
02:32 frukoyurdakul: ozzy sliderların bazıları sıkıntılı demişti onu düzelttim
02:32 frukoyurdakul: onda sorun yok
02:32 frukoyurdakul: 1/16 uzatırsam çok daha kötü görünüyor
02:32 frukoyurdakul: ve o slider orada bitmeli
02:33 frukoyurdakul: mapin sonundaki iki sliderda sorun vardı
02:33 frukoyurdakul: onları düzelttim
02:33 zigizigiefe: 01:14:882 - ddkkd patternini buraya taşısan daha iyi olmaz mıydı sanki
02:33 zigizigiefe: bilemiyorum
02:33 frukoyurdakul: bak
02:33 frukoyurdakul: bu tarz öneri verme işte
02:33 frukoyurdakul: ritim genel çünkü
02:33 zigizigiefe: sdffgşksjdfşkj
02:33 frukoyurdakul: bütün bateri d k ddk diye gidiyor
02:33 frukoyurdakul: gerisi variation için
02:34 frukoyurdakul: demeye çalıştığım buydu sana
02:34 zigizigiefe: 01:22:682 (379,380,381,382,383) - şuradaki vokali az daha incele bence
02:34 zigizigiefe: vokalle uyuşmuyor
02:34 frukoyurdakul: çünkü bateriyi takip ettim
02:34 zigizigiefe: bateriyle uyumlu da vokale göre kötü duruyor
02:35 frukoyurdakul: bi sonraki pattern zaten vurguluyor çünkü
02:35 frukoyurdakul: her yerde vocali takip etmek zorunda değilim açıkçası
02:35 frukoyurdakul: ki etmem de yani
02:35 frukoyurdakul: bana kalsa bütün şarkıyı d k ddk maplerim ama o zaman da insanlara sıkıcı geliyor
02:35 frukoyurdakul: o yüzden de variation yapıyorum
02:36 frukoyurdakul: variation orada değil burada iyi gibisinden şeylerle gelme o yüzden
02:36 frukoyurdakul: burada bu ses var niye öyle yaptın diye sor mesela
02:36 zigizigiefe: oynarken oyuncuya tuhaf gelen yerlere dikkat çekiyorum genel olarak
02:36 zigizigiefe: tamam o zaman
02:36 zigizigiefe: 01:24:707 - burada neden kat yok?gitar sesi kabak gibi ortada
02:37 frukoyurdakul: he?
02:37 frukoyurdakul: gitar sesi 398 in üzeinde
02:37 zigizigiefe: asdkfdjasdkşj
02:37 frukoyurdakul: üzerinde*
02:37 frukoyurdakul: arada değil
02:38 zigizigiefe: anlamadım ama olsun
02:38 frukoyurdakul: olum
02:38 zigizigiefe: longstreamlerle ilgili sıkıntım yok gayet güzel yapmışsın
02:38 frukoyurdakul: 01:24:707 -
02:38 frukoyurdakul: burada değil
02:38 frukoyurdakul: 01:24:632 (398) -
02:38 frukoyurdakul: burada başlıyor gitar sesi
02:38 frukoyurdakul: ondan bahsediyorum
02:38 zigizigiefe: başlıyor da
02:38 zigizigiefe: sonraki notaya uzanıyor
02:38 frukoyurdakul: senin gösterdiğin yerde bir ses yok
02:38 zigizigiefe: baya baya uzanıyor
02:39 frukoyurdakul: bakayım diğer kısımları öyle yapmış mıyım
02:39 frukoyurdakul: birkaçını inceledim öyle yapmışım
02:39 frukoyurdakul: bi don ekledim oraya
02:39 zigizigiefe: sadece bir öneri verecem
02:39 zigizigiefe: 01:41:807 - şuraya kat notası eklersen oyuncu görüp "ddkdddk ne amk" demez sdşfkfjgsdkşj hem daha güzel durur
02:40 zigizigiefe: veya şöyle sorayum:orada niye kat yok
02:40 frukoyurdakul: ben o patternı fazla uzun yapmışım
02:41 frukoyurdakul: 01:41:357 -
02:41 frukoyurdakul: şuradakini kaldırdım onun yerine
02:41 frukoyurdakul: gerek yok o kadar uzun patterna orda
02:41 zigizigiefe: o da mantıklı
02:42 zigizigiefe: 02:15:482 (956,957,958,959,960,961,962) - vokal vurgusu yapmaya çalışmışsın ama olmamış burada,kdddkdk yerine kdddk k olamaz mıydı?
02:42 frukoyurdakul: 02:15:857 (961) -
02:42 frukoyurdakul: burada kick soundu var
02:42 frukoyurdakul: onu o yüzden koydum
02:42 zigizigiefe: k ddkdk olabilir
02:42 zigizigiefe: sdljkfkhds
02:42 zigizigiefe: ama kdddkdk yapma allah aşkına şskdjkfşksdjafaşkdj
02:43 zigizigiefe: 02:17:732 - streami yanlış yerde başlatmışsın
02:43 frukoyurdakul: ne farkı var işte
02:43 frukoyurdakul: onu sormak istiyorum
02:43 frukoyurdakul: ha kdddkdk
02:43 frukoyurdakul: ha k ddkdk
02:43 frukoyurdakul: çok da bir farkı yok
02:43 zigizigiefe: kdddkdk patternini ilk gördüğümde bu ne amk dedim yadırgadım biraz
02:43 frukoyurdakul: yadırganacak bir şey yok bence
02:43 frukoyurdakul: diğer dediğinde de
02:44 frukoyurdakul: 02:17:807 (980) -
02:44 frukoyurdakul: şu nota fazla sadece
02:44 zigizigiefe: onu demek istedim ben de
02:44 frukoyurdakul: iki tane k yapmak istemiyorum orada açıkçası
02:44 frukoyurdakul: k kkddkdkkdd gibisinden devam etmektense
02:44 frukoyurdakul: tek bi stream gibi görünsün istedim
02:45 zigizigiefe: streamin yanlış yerde başlaması gibi geldi
02:45 frukoyurdakul: 02:18:182 (985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995) -
02:45 frukoyurdakul: o zaman bu kısımla da uyumlu oluyor hem
02:45 zigizigiefe: ölçeğin başından başlaması gerekiyor bence
02:45 frukoyurdakul: anladım demek istediğini
02:45 frukoyurdakul: sadece k k ile başlatmak istemiyorum streami
02:46 zigizigiefe: o zaman d k ile başlat,iyi forumlar
02:46 zigizigiefe: sdşdfkkjdfsşkjsfdkşsfdaj
02:46 frukoyurdakul: onu yapamam işte
02:46 frukoyurdakul:
02:46 frukoyurdakul: 02:17:732 (979) -
02:46 frukoyurdakul: buradaki ses trampet
02:46 frukoyurdakul: k olmak zorunda orası
02:46 zigizigiefe: 03:00:332 - abi naptın sen sdkfdjkasdşkjf
02:46 zigizigiefe: üst üste 3 5plet adamı bayar
02:46 frukoyurdakul: oranın öyle olmasının sebebi var
02:46 frukoyurdakul: bateri ritmi değişiyor orada
02:47 frukoyurdakul: dikkatli dinle
02:47 frukoyurdakul: ddk ddk diye gidiyor
02:47 zigizigiefe: 03:01:307 - burada bateri sesi duyamadım ben
02:47 frukoyurdakul: d k ddk dan çıkıyor
02:47 frukoyurdakul: tamam kaldırdım onu
02:47 frukoyurdakul: bu sefer de peşpeşe iki tane ddk oldu
02:47 frukoyurdakul:
02:48 zigizigiefe: 03:21:482 - buradaki vurguyu beğendim açıkçası
02:48 frukoyurdakul: orada zaten trampet sesi de var
02:48 zigizigiefe: ben olsam ben de aynısını yapardım
02:48 frukoyurdakul: eyvallah
02:48 zigizigiefe: 03:23:732 - stream buradan başlasa fena olmazdı bence
02:49 zigizigiefe: kevin'ın mapinde görmüştüm
02:49 frukoyurdakul: al işte
02:49 frukoyurdakul: bi öncekinde ses duyamadım diyosun
02:49 frukoyurdakul: şimdi de streami buradan başlat diyosun
02:49 frukoyurdakul: kendi içinde çelişiyosun amk asdkjalkjaslsd
02:49 frukoyurdakul: 03:23:807 -
02:49 frukoyurdakul: burada ses yok
02:50 frukoyurdakul: genellikle ses olmayan yerlere nota koymamaya çalıştım, bir öncekinde öyle yapmamın tek sebebi streamin geri kalanıyla epey uyumlu olması
02:50 zigizigiefe: dimi amk sldkjfdaskş
02:50 zigizigiefe: dur dur
02:50 zigizigiefe: pre-chorus'u beğendim
02:51 zigizigiefe: şimdi bir öneri verecem yapıp yapmamak sana kalmış
02:51 frukoyurdakul: sound atlamışım lan
02:51 zigizigiefe: 03:30:857 - buraya bir kat nota ekleyerek ddd kkk ile güzel bir flow yapabilirsin ̶ａ̶ｅ̶ｓ̶ｔ̶ｈ̶ｅ̶ｔ̶ｉ̶ｃ̶ｓ̶
02:51 frukoyurdakul: daha doğrusu fazla koymuşum
02:51 frukoyurdakul: silsem mi acaba
02:51 frukoyurdakul: o zaman da çok boş görünüyor ama
02:52 frukoyurdakul: diğer kısımda ses vardı burada yok, yine de consistency bozulur kalsın
02:52 frukoyurdakul: bakayım senin dediğine
02:52 frukoyurdakul: bir önceki pre-chorusta da aynı
02:52 frukoyurdakul: artı, gitar sesleri tamamen uyumlu
02:52 zigizigiefe: aynı değil ki
02:52 zigizigiefe: benzer
02:53 frukoyurdakul: aynı
02:53 frukoyurdakul: tıpatıp hem de
02:53 zigizigiefe:
02:53 frukoyurdakul: guitar hero versiyonundan baktım oraya
02:53 frukoyurdakul: ve amacım gitarı takip etmekti
02:54 zigizigiefe:
02:55 zigizigiefe: pre chorustaki vokal vurgusunu da beğendim
02:55 frukoyurdakul: eyvallah
02:56 zigizigiefe: 03:40:682 - bundaki tek sıkıntım şu:1. kısımda "kdkdkdkdkkddkkdd" diye giderken 2.sinde "kdkdkdkdkdkkdd" olmuş,hem tutarsız hem oyuncunun kafasını karıştırıyor
02:56 zigizigiefe: bu önceki pre-chorusta da geçerli
02:56 frukoyurdakul: hmm
02:56 frukoyurdakul: aslında o ikisinin aynı olmaması lazım
02:57 frukoyurdakul: çünkü vocaller farklı
02:57 frukoyurdakul: ve ikincisinde değişebilir. ilkinde uyuyor ama
02:57 frukoyurdakul: ya da dur
02:57 frukoyurdakul: yanlış mı dinledim acaba
02:57 frukoyurdakul: evet yanlış dinlemişim
02:57 zigizigiefe: tutarsız ama amk
02:57 zigizigiefe: oyuncunun kafasını karıştırıyor diyorum sşdkjfk
02:57 frukoyurdakul: dur bi
02:58 frukoyurdakul: full kdkdkdkdkdkdkdkd de gitmek istemiyorum
02:58 frukoyurdakul: vocal değişene kadar
02:58 zigizigiefe: ama illa gideceksen tutarlı olması lazım
02:59 frukoyurdakul: ya tutarlı olur orası ayrı da
02:59 frukoyurdakul: 03:42:632 (1804,1805) -
02:59 frukoyurdakul: aslında vocal sesi burada uzuyor
02:59 zigizigiefe:
03:00 zigizigiefe: doğru
03:00 frukoyurdakul: ondan öncesinde full kdkdkdkdkdkdkd gitsem asıl tutarlılık o zaman olur
03:00 frukoyurdakul: ama
03:00 frukoyurdakul: bu sefer bence daha kafa karıştırıcı olur
03:00 frukoyurdakul: en azından kkddkkdd biraz daha okunabilir
03:00 frukoyurdakul: kdkdkdkd ya göre
03:01 zigizigiefe: biraz da kdkdkdkd basacam diye iki tuşa aynı anda basan kolsuz pezevenkleri düşün
03:01 zigizigiefe:
03:01 frukoyurdakul: o sizin sorununuz amk
03:01 frukoyurdakul:
03:01 frukoyurdakul: yok ya
03:01 zigizigiefe: sdfşklhndasfkşjafşkj
03:01 frukoyurdakul: bu haliyle iyi olduğuna karar verdim
03:01 zigizigiefe: şaka yapıyorum amk
03:01 frukoyurdakul: diğer alternatifler daha kötü çünkü
03:02 frukoyurdakul: aklına bi çözüm geliyosa sen söyle
03:02 zigizigiefe: 04:02:282 (2029,2030,2031,2032,2033,2034,2035) - şu patterni ne zaman görsem triggerlanıyorum yether şskdjdfasdkşjf
03:02 frukoyurdakul: yoksa geçelim
03:02 zigizigiefe: geçelim bence
03:02 frukoyurdakul: orayı tutucam
03:02 frukoyurdakul: diğerinde de değiştirmedim
03:02 zigizigiefe: hncvzcdşfask
03:02 frukoyurdakul: dağıtma dikkatini pls
03:02 zigizigiefe: bi sıçıp geleyim brb
03:03 frukoyurdakul: haydaaa
03:03 frukoyurdakul: yatıcam amk
03:03 frukoyurdakul: modu bitir öyle git
03:03 frukoyurdakul: ya da posta yaz gerisini
03:05 frukoyurdakul: 3.10 a kadar beklerim yoksa kapatıcam
03:12 zigizigiefe: 04:12:182 (2123,2129) - burada snare sesi duyamadım
03:12 frukoyurdakul: devam et sen
03:12 frukoyurdakul: onlar zaten don
03:13 zigizigiefe: bende kat görünüyor
03:13 frukoyurdakul: ilginç
03:13 frukoyurdakul: onlar don yani sıkıntı yok
03:13 zigizigiefe: 04:11:882 - kdddddkdddddkdddk gibi bir pattern var dimi burada
03:13 frukoyurdakul: haa dur bi dakka
03:13 frukoyurdakul: yanlış bakmışım
03:13 zigizigiefe: gitar solo ile ilgili pek bir fikrim yok
03:13 zigizigiefe: gitar soloları mapleyemem
03:13 frukoyurdakul: aynen
03:13 frukoyurdakul: orada snare sesi yok
03:13 frukoyurdakul: ama
03:14 frukoyurdakul: vocal vurgulamak istedim
03:14 frukoyurdakul: 04:11:882 (2118) -
03:14 frukoyurdakul: bunda da yok mesela
03:14 zigizigiefe: orada duydum ben
03:14 frukoyurdakul: orada da yok
03:14 frukoyurdakul: kırmızı ticklerin üzerinde
03:14 frukoyurdakul: snare sesleri
03:14 zigizigiefe: aha sıçtık
03:14 zigizigiefe: 05:13:082 - burada niye kiai yok amk
03:14 zigizigiefe: sfdfjkşnasdfşkja
03:15 frukoyurdakul: niye olsun ki
03:15 frukoyurdakul: orta kısım kiai için çok daha iyi
03:15 zigizigiefe: tamamı kiai olmayacak ki
03:15 frukoyurdakul: ayrıca bi de solo başına koymam saçma olur, çok fazla kiai olması iyi değil
03:15 zigizigiefe: 05:32:282 - şuraya kadar kiai olması lazım
03:15 zigizigiefe: raiden'a sor o da aynı şeyi söyleyecek
03:16 frukoyurdakul: e o zaman sonrasına da koymam gerekir
03:16 frukoyurdakul: e öyle söylerse koyarım
03:16 zigizigiefe: tamamdır
03:16 frukoyurdakul: ama orta kısımda kiai olduğu için oraya ek olarak koymam gerektiğini düşünmüyorum
03:16 zigizigiefe: 06:01:082 - abi öldürmeye mi çalışıyorsun beni 1.15 sv ne şskdjfjkşsadjf
03:17 zigizigiefe: hr farmerlar triggered
03:17 frukoyurdakul: chromo zamanında sıkıntı olmaz demişti :')
03:17 frukoyurdakul: orası önceden 1.20 idi
03:17 frukoyurdakul: 1.15 de sonradan düşürdüm
03:17 zigizigiefe: sdfdskşfjsşkdazj
03:17 zigizigiefe: kromozomxy bn değil artık dimi
03:17 zigizigiefe: üzdü
03:17 frukoyurdakul: değil
03:18 zigizigiefe: son bir öneri sonra foruma posta
03:18 zigizigiefe: 07:31:082 - spinner yap şunu bu kadar uzun sliderlara alerjim var
03:18 zigizigiefe: dur bir daha kontrol edeyim
03:18 zigizigiefe: aynen spinner olmalı sşkdjfsdkşj
03:18 frukoyurdakul: onu değiştirdim
02:21 zigizigiefe: here we go
02:21 zigizigiefe: gel
02:21 frukoyurdakul: gayet iyi yorum aldım
02:22 frukoyurdakul: çok mutluyum lan şu an
02:22 zigizigiefe: ss'i atarsın
02:22 zigizigiefe: şimdi ilk olarak intro partın sv'sini 200 bpm'e eşitlemek için 0,85ten 0,83 yap
02:23 zigizigiefe: 200/240=83,3333333333......*sonu gelmeyen sayı yığını*
02:23 frukoyurdakul: 0.85 değil ki lan
02:23 frukoyurdakul: 1x
02:23 frukoyurdakul: orası
02:23 zigizigiefe: 00:00:287 -
02:23 frukoyurdakul: haa
02:23 frukoyurdakul: 0.85 miş
02:23 zigizigiefe: burada 0,85 sv var
02:23 frukoyurdakul: tamam gördüm
02:23 zigizigiefe: onu 0,83 yap
02:24 frukoyurdakul: yapıcam 1dk
02:24 frukoyurdakul: aslında dur
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 100 / 120
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 50 /60
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 25 / 30
02:24 frukoyurdakul: 5 / 6
02:24 zigizigiefe: yani
02:24 zigizigiefe: 83,33333333333
02:24 zigizigiefe: sdşfkghjsdljşkj
02:25 frukoyurdakul: aynen
02:25 frukoyurdakul:
02:25 zigizigiefe: mapi test ederken sürekli gözüme çarpan bir yer var
02:25 zigizigiefe: 00:32:162 (133) - bunun kat olması için iki sebebim var
02:26 zigizigiefe: 1-kddkddkkd,kddkddkdd gibi bir patternden daha düzgün bir pattern
02:26 zigizigiefe: 2-buradaki bateri sesiyle önceki aynı geldi
02:26 zigizigiefe: ne düşünüyorsun
02:27 frukoyurdakul: 1dk
02:27 frukoyurdakul: aynı değiller
02:27 frukoyurdakul: k olan çok az daha ince
02:27 frukoyurdakul: ayrıca consistency için yaptım biraz da
02:27 frukoyurdakul: artı, klavye sesi var, diğer kısımlarında da takip ettim
02:27 zigizigiefe: o zaman şöyle yapalım
02:28 zigizigiefe: 00:32:287 (134) - şunu kat finisher yap,çünkü burada cymbal sesi duydum ben
02:28 frukoyurdakul: yok klavye sesini siktiret
02:28 frukoyurdakul: gerek yok
02:28 frukoyurdakul: hepsinde cymbal sesi var
02:28 zigizigiefe: ikisini de reddettin dimi
02:28 frukoyurdakul: ritim gitar sesine göre don veya kat
02:28 frukoyurdakul: yaptım oraları
02:28 zigizigiefe:
02:28 frukoyurdakul: çoğu mapte böyle kullanılıyor çünkü
02:29 frukoyurdakul: senin dediğin gibi yapmaya kalkarsam bütün finisherları kat yapmam gerekir
02:29 frukoyurdakul: ciddi anlamda davulu vurgulamadıklarım dışında
02:29 zigizigiefe: mapi test ederken benim kafamı karıştıran bir kısım var
02:29 zigizigiefe: 00:48:482 - şunu silip sonraki ddkkk patternini buraya taşı,o gitar sesi buradan başlıyor ve 00:48:557 - burada boşluk olması garip görünüyor
02:30 frukoyurdakul: saçmalama lan
02:30 frukoyurdakul: ince gitar sesi orada değil
02:30 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:782 (46) -
02:30 frukoyurdakul: burada
02:30 zigizigiefe: biliyorum amk
02:30 frukoyurdakul: ben onu vurgulamak için kkk yaptım orayı
02:30 zigizigiefe: 00:48:557 - burada boşluk olması garip görünüyor
02:31 frukoyurdakul: ddddkkk bence uymuyor oraya
02:31 zigizigiefe: low,medium,high şeklinde gidiyor pitchler
02:31 frukoyurdakul: e tamam
02:31 frukoyurdakul: ben de diyorum ki orası gitarla alakalı değil
02:31 frukoyurdakul: bateriyle alakalı
02:31 frukoyurdakul: ve orada da bateri sesi yok
02:31 zigizigiefe: 00:48:557 - burada gitar sesi yokmuş gibi davranmışsın
02:31 frukoyurdakul: e yok çünkü amk D:
02:31 zigizigiefe: mapi test ederken kafamı karıştırmıştı
02:31 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:482 (43) -
02:31 frukoyurdakul: burada var
02:31 frukoyurdakul: senin dediğin yerde yok
02:32 zigizigiefe: neyse sıkıntı değil buralar
02:32 frukoyurdakul: bence de değil
02:32 zigizigiefe: 01:09:332 (269) - ozzynin bahsettiği slider bu olabilir
02:32 frukoyurdakul: ozzy sliderların bazıları sıkıntılı demişti onu düzelttim
02:32 frukoyurdakul: onda sorun yok
02:32 frukoyurdakul: 1/16 uzatırsam çok daha kötü görünüyor
02:32 frukoyurdakul: ve o slider orada bitmeli
02:33 frukoyurdakul: mapin sonundaki iki sliderda sorun vardı
02:33 frukoyurdakul: onları düzelttim
02:33 zigizigiefe: 01:14:882 - ddkkd patternini buraya taşısan daha iyi olmaz mıydı sanki
02:33 zigizigiefe: bilemiyorum
02:33 frukoyurdakul: bak
02:33 frukoyurdakul: bu tarz öneri verme işte
02:33 frukoyurdakul: ritim genel çünkü
02:33 zigizigiefe: sdffgşksjdfşkj
02:33 frukoyurdakul: bütün bateri d k ddk diye gidiyor
02:33 frukoyurdakul: gerisi variation için
02:34 frukoyurdakul: demeye çalıştığım buydu sana
02:34 zigizigiefe: 01:22:682 (379,380,381,382,383) - şuradaki vokali az daha incele bence
02:34 zigizigiefe: vokalle uyuşmuyor
02:34 frukoyurdakul: çünkü bateriyi takip ettim
02:34 zigizigiefe: bateriyle uyumlu da vokale göre kötü duruyor
02:35 frukoyurdakul: bi sonraki pattern zaten vurguluyor çünkü
02:35 frukoyurdakul: her yerde vocali takip etmek zorunda değilim açıkçası
02:35 frukoyurdakul: ki etmem de yani
02:35 frukoyurdakul: bana kalsa bütün şarkıyı d k ddk maplerim ama o zaman da insanlara sıkıcı geliyor
02:35 frukoyurdakul: o yüzden de variation yapıyorum
02:36 frukoyurdakul: variation orada değil burada iyi gibisinden şeylerle gelme o yüzden
02:36 frukoyurdakul: burada bu ses var niye öyle yaptın diye sor mesela
02:36 zigizigiefe: oynarken oyuncuya tuhaf gelen yerlere dikkat çekiyorum genel olarak
02:36 zigizigiefe: tamam o zaman
02:36 zigizigiefe: 01:24:707 - burada neden kat yok?gitar sesi kabak gibi ortada
02:37 frukoyurdakul: he?
02:37 frukoyurdakul: gitar sesi 398 in üzeinde
02:37 zigizigiefe: asdkfdjasdkşj
02:37 frukoyurdakul: üzerinde*
02:37 frukoyurdakul: arada değil
02:38 zigizigiefe: anlamadım ama olsun
02:38 frukoyurdakul: olum
02:38 zigizigiefe: longstreamlerle ilgili sıkıntım yok gayet güzel yapmışsın
02:38 frukoyurdakul: 01:24:707 -
02:38 frukoyurdakul: burada değil
02:38 frukoyurdakul: 01:24:632 (398) -
02:38 frukoyurdakul: burada başlıyor gitar sesi
02:38 frukoyurdakul: ondan bahsediyorum
02:38 zigizigiefe: başlıyor da
02:38 zigizigiefe: sonraki notaya uzanıyor
02:38 frukoyurdakul: senin gösterdiğin yerde bir ses yok
02:38 zigizigiefe: baya baya uzanıyor
02:39 frukoyurdakul: bakayım diğer kısımları öyle yapmış mıyım
02:39 frukoyurdakul: birkaçını inceledim öyle yapmışım
02:39 frukoyurdakul: bi don ekledim oraya
02:39 zigizigiefe: sadece bir öneri verecem
02:39 zigizigiefe: 01:41:807 - şuraya kat notası eklersen oyuncu görüp "ddkdddk ne amk" demez sdşfkfjgsdkşj hem daha güzel durur
02:40 zigizigiefe: veya şöyle sorayum:orada niye kat yok
02:40 frukoyurdakul: ben o patternı fazla uzun yapmışım
02:41 frukoyurdakul: 01:41:357 -
02:41 frukoyurdakul: şuradakini kaldırdım onun yerine
02:41 frukoyurdakul: gerek yok o kadar uzun patterna orda
02:41 zigizigiefe: o da mantıklı
02:42 zigizigiefe: 02:15:482 (956,957,958,959,960,961,962) - vokal vurgusu yapmaya çalışmışsın ama olmamış burada,kdddkdk yerine kdddk k olamaz mıydı?
02:42 frukoyurdakul: 02:15:857 (961) -
02:42 frukoyurdakul: burada kick soundu var
02:42 frukoyurdakul: onu o yüzden koydum
02:42 zigizigiefe: k ddkdk olabilir
02:42 zigizigiefe: sdljkfkhds
02:42 zigizigiefe: ama kdddkdk yapma allah aşkına şskdjkfşksdjafaşkdj
02:43 zigizigiefe: 02:17:732 - streami yanlış yerde başlatmışsın
02:43 frukoyurdakul: ne farkı var işte
02:43 frukoyurdakul: onu sormak istiyorum
02:43 frukoyurdakul: ha kdddkdk
02:43 frukoyurdakul: ha k ddkdk
02:43 frukoyurdakul: çok da bir farkı yok
02:43 zigizigiefe: kdddkdk patternini ilk gördüğümde bu ne amk dedim yadırgadım biraz
02:43 frukoyurdakul: yadırganacak bir şey yok bence
02:43 frukoyurdakul: diğer dediğinde de
02:44 frukoyurdakul: 02:17:807 (980) -
02:44 frukoyurdakul: şu nota fazla sadece
02:44 zigizigiefe: onu demek istedim ben de
02:44 frukoyurdakul: iki tane k yapmak istemiyorum orada açıkçası
02:44 frukoyurdakul: k kkddkdkkdd gibisinden devam etmektense
02:44 frukoyurdakul: tek bi stream gibi görünsün istedim
02:45 zigizigiefe: streamin yanlış yerde başlaması gibi geldi
02:45 frukoyurdakul: 02:18:182 (985,986,987,988,989,990,991,992,993,994,995) -
02:45 frukoyurdakul: o zaman bu kısımla da uyumlu oluyor hem
02:45 zigizigiefe: ölçeğin başından başlaması gerekiyor bence
02:45 frukoyurdakul: anladım demek istediğini
02:45 frukoyurdakul: sadece k k ile başlatmak istemiyorum streami
02:46 zigizigiefe: o zaman d k ile başlat,iyi forumlar
02:46 zigizigiefe: sdşdfkkjdfsşkjsfdkşsfdaj
02:46 frukoyurdakul: onu yapamam işte
02:46 frukoyurdakul:
02:46 frukoyurdakul: 02:17:732 (979) -
02:46 frukoyurdakul: buradaki ses trampet
02:46 frukoyurdakul: k olmak zorunda orası
02:46 zigizigiefe: 03:00:332 - abi naptın sen sdkfdjkasdşkjf
02:46 zigizigiefe: üst üste 3 5plet adamı bayar
02:46 frukoyurdakul: oranın öyle olmasının sebebi var
02:46 frukoyurdakul: bateri ritmi değişiyor orada
02:47 frukoyurdakul: dikkatli dinle
02:47 frukoyurdakul: ddk ddk diye gidiyor
02:47 zigizigiefe: 03:01:307 - burada bateri sesi duyamadım ben
02:47 frukoyurdakul: d k ddk dan çıkıyor
02:47 frukoyurdakul: tamam kaldırdım onu
02:47 frukoyurdakul: bu sefer de peşpeşe iki tane ddk oldu
02:47 frukoyurdakul:
02:48 zigizigiefe: 03:21:482 - buradaki vurguyu beğendim açıkçası
02:48 frukoyurdakul: orada zaten trampet sesi de var
02:48 zigizigiefe: ben olsam ben de aynısını yapardım
02:48 frukoyurdakul: eyvallah
02:48 zigizigiefe: 03:23:732 - stream buradan başlasa fena olmazdı bence
02:49 zigizigiefe: kevin'ın mapinde görmüştüm
02:49 frukoyurdakul: al işte
02:49 frukoyurdakul: bi öncekinde ses duyamadım diyosun
02:49 frukoyurdakul: şimdi de streami buradan başlat diyosun
02:49 frukoyurdakul: kendi içinde çelişiyosun amk asdkjalkjaslsd
02:49 frukoyurdakul: 03:23:807 -
02:49 frukoyurdakul: burada ses yok
02:50 frukoyurdakul: genellikle ses olmayan yerlere nota koymamaya çalıştım, bir öncekinde öyle yapmamın tek sebebi streamin geri kalanıyla epey uyumlu olması
02:50 zigizigiefe: dimi amk sldkjfdaskş
02:50 zigizigiefe: dur dur
02:50 zigizigiefe: pre-chorus'u beğendim
02:51 zigizigiefe: şimdi bir öneri verecem yapıp yapmamak sana kalmış
02:51 frukoyurdakul: sound atlamışım lan
02:51 zigizigiefe: 03:30:857 - buraya bir kat nota ekleyerek ddd kkk ile güzel bir flow yapabilirsin ̶ａ̶ｅ̶ｓ̶ｔ̶ｈ̶ｅ̶ｔ̶ｉ̶ｃ̶ｓ̶
02:51 frukoyurdakul: daha doğrusu fazla koymuşum
02:51 frukoyurdakul: silsem mi acaba
02:51 frukoyurdakul: o zaman da çok boş görünüyor ama
02:52 frukoyurdakul: diğer kısımda ses vardı burada yok, yine de consistency bozulur kalsın
02:52 frukoyurdakul: bakayım senin dediğine
02:52 frukoyurdakul: bir önceki pre-chorusta da aynı
02:52 frukoyurdakul: artı, gitar sesleri tamamen uyumlu
02:52 zigizigiefe: aynı değil ki
02:52 zigizigiefe: benzer
02:53 frukoyurdakul: aynı
02:53 frukoyurdakul: tıpatıp hem de
02:53 zigizigiefe:
02:53 frukoyurdakul: guitar hero versiyonundan baktım oraya
02:53 frukoyurdakul: ve amacım gitarı takip etmekti
02:54 zigizigiefe:
02:55 zigizigiefe: pre chorustaki vokal vurgusunu da beğendim
02:55 frukoyurdakul: eyvallah
02:56 zigizigiefe: 03:40:682 - bundaki tek sıkıntım şu:1. kısımda "kdkdkdkdkkddkkdd" diye giderken 2.sinde "kdkdkdkdkdkkdd" olmuş,hem tutarsız hem oyuncunun kafasını karıştırıyor
02:56 zigizigiefe: bu önceki pre-chorusta da geçerli
02:56 frukoyurdakul: hmm
02:56 frukoyurdakul: aslında o ikisinin aynı olmaması lazım
02:57 frukoyurdakul: çünkü vocaller farklı
02:57 frukoyurdakul: ve ikincisinde değişebilir. ilkinde uyuyor ama
02:57 frukoyurdakul: ya da dur
02:57 frukoyurdakul: yanlış mı dinledim acaba
02:57 frukoyurdakul: evet yanlış dinlemişim
02:57 zigizigiefe: tutarsız ama amk
02:57 zigizigiefe: oyuncunun kafasını karıştırıyor diyorum sşdkjfk
02:57 frukoyurdakul: dur bi
02:58 frukoyurdakul: full kdkdkdkdkdkdkdkd de gitmek istemiyorum
02:58 frukoyurdakul: vocal değişene kadar
02:58 zigizigiefe: ama illa gideceksen tutarlı olması lazım
02:59 frukoyurdakul: ya tutarlı olur orası ayrı da
02:59 frukoyurdakul: 03:42:632 (1804,1805) -
02:59 frukoyurdakul: aslında vocal sesi burada uzuyor
02:59 zigizigiefe:
03:00 zigizigiefe: doğru
03:00 frukoyurdakul: ondan öncesinde full kdkdkdkdkdkdkd gitsem asıl tutarlılık o zaman olur
03:00 frukoyurdakul: ama
03:00 frukoyurdakul: bu sefer bence daha kafa karıştırıcı olur
03:00 frukoyurdakul: en azından kkddkkdd biraz daha okunabilir
03:00 frukoyurdakul: kdkdkdkd ya göre
03:01 zigizigiefe: biraz da kdkdkdkd basacam diye iki tuşa aynı anda basan kolsuz pezevenkleri düşün
03:01 zigizigiefe:
03:01 frukoyurdakul: o sizin sorununuz amk
03:01 frukoyurdakul:
03:01 frukoyurdakul: yok ya
03:01 zigizigiefe: sdfşklhndasfkşjafşkj
03:01 frukoyurdakul: bu haliyle iyi olduğuna karar verdim
03:01 zigizigiefe: şaka yapıyorum amk
03:01 frukoyurdakul: diğer alternatifler daha kötü çünkü
03:02 frukoyurdakul: aklına bi çözüm geliyosa sen söyle
03:02 zigizigiefe: 04:02:282 (2029,2030,2031,2032,2033,2034,2035) - şu patterni ne zaman görsem triggerlanıyorum yether şskdjdfasdkşjf
03:02 frukoyurdakul: yoksa geçelim
03:02 zigizigiefe: geçelim bence
03:02 frukoyurdakul: orayı tutucam
03:02 frukoyurdakul: diğerinde de değiştirmedim
03:02 zigizigiefe: hncvzcdşfask
03:02 frukoyurdakul: dağıtma dikkatini pls
03:02 zigizigiefe: bi sıçıp geleyim brb
03:03 frukoyurdakul: haydaaa
03:03 frukoyurdakul: yatıcam amk
03:03 frukoyurdakul: modu bitir öyle git
03:03 frukoyurdakul: ya da posta yaz gerisini
03:05 frukoyurdakul: 3.10 a kadar beklerim yoksa kapatıcam
03:12 zigizigiefe: 04:12:182 (2123,2129) - burada snare sesi duyamadım
03:12 frukoyurdakul: devam et sen
03:12 frukoyurdakul: onlar zaten don
03:13 zigizigiefe: bende kat görünüyor
03:13 frukoyurdakul: ilginç
03:13 frukoyurdakul: onlar don yani sıkıntı yok
03:13 zigizigiefe: 04:11:882 - kdddddkdddddkdddk gibi bir pattern var dimi burada
03:13 frukoyurdakul: haa dur bi dakka
03:13 frukoyurdakul: yanlış bakmışım
03:13 zigizigiefe: gitar solo ile ilgili pek bir fikrim yok
03:13 zigizigiefe: gitar soloları mapleyemem
03:13 frukoyurdakul: aynen
03:13 frukoyurdakul: orada snare sesi yok
03:13 frukoyurdakul: ama
03:14 frukoyurdakul: vocal vurgulamak istedim
03:14 frukoyurdakul: 04:11:882 (2118) -
03:14 frukoyurdakul: bunda da yok mesela
03:14 zigizigiefe: orada duydum ben
03:14 frukoyurdakul: orada da yok
03:14 frukoyurdakul: kırmızı ticklerin üzerinde
03:14 frukoyurdakul: snare sesleri
03:14 zigizigiefe: aha sıçtık
03:14 zigizigiefe: 05:13:082 - burada niye kiai yok amk
03:14 zigizigiefe: sfdfjkşnasdfşkja
03:15 frukoyurdakul: niye olsun ki
03:15 frukoyurdakul: orta kısım kiai için çok daha iyi
03:15 zigizigiefe: tamamı kiai olmayacak ki
03:15 frukoyurdakul: ayrıca bi de solo başına koymam saçma olur, çok fazla kiai olması iyi değil
03:15 zigizigiefe: 05:32:282 - şuraya kadar kiai olması lazım
03:15 zigizigiefe: raiden'a sor o da aynı şeyi söyleyecek
03:16 frukoyurdakul: e o zaman sonrasına da koymam gerekir
03:16 frukoyurdakul: e öyle söylerse koyarım
03:16 zigizigiefe: tamamdır
03:16 frukoyurdakul: ama orta kısımda kiai olduğu için oraya ek olarak koymam gerektiğini düşünmüyorum
03:16 zigizigiefe: 06:01:082 - abi öldürmeye mi çalışıyorsun beni 1.15 sv ne şskdjfjkşsadjf
03:17 zigizigiefe: hr farmerlar triggered
03:17 frukoyurdakul: chromo zamanında sıkıntı olmaz demişti :')
03:17 frukoyurdakul: orası önceden 1.20 idi
03:17 frukoyurdakul: 1.15 de sonradan düşürdüm
03:17 zigizigiefe: sdfdskşfjsşkdazj
03:17 zigizigiefe: kromozomxy bn değil artık dimi
03:17 zigizigiefe: üzdü
03:17 frukoyurdakul: değil
03:18 zigizigiefe: son bir öneri sonra foruma posta
03:18 zigizigiefe: 07:31:082 - spinner yap şunu bu kadar uzun sliderlara alerjim var
03:18 zigizigiefe: dur bir daha kontrol edeyim
03:18 zigizigiefe: aynen spinner olmalı sşkdjfsdkşj
03:18 frukoyurdakul: onu değiştirdim
dekaane'in mapinden iyi aslında .s.s
Maegi Mod
Hi, M4M from My Queue ' w'
[General]
[General]
- HP is litttle bit low for this diff. change to 4 or 4.5
- Move last kiai to 07:20:282 ?
- 01:16:232 (322,323,324,325) - kkddk is also looks good.
- 01:28:682 (439,440,441,442) - kddd looks better.
- 01:47:432 (638,639,640,641) - change to kkddk or kdddk. It feels like something is missing.
- 02:07:007 - add d. if you don't wanna make long stream, remove 02:08:207
- 02:22:082 - add d k (1/1)
- 03:21:407 (1601,1602,1603,1604,1605,1606,1607,1608,1609,1610,1611,1612,1613,1614,1615,1616,1617) - remove all, and make another stream.
- 03:57:182 (1971,1972,1973,1974) - change to kkdd
- 05:10:682 (2470,2471,2472,2473,2474,2475,2476,2477,2478,2479,2480,2481,2482,2483,2484) - kkkkddkkkkddkkdd looks better
- 05:27:332 - add dd
- 06:37:157 - add d
Topic Starter
Thanks for your mod :')Quizmaegi wrote:
Maegi ModHi, M4M from My Queue ' w'
[General][Tatsujin+-]
- HP is litttle bit low for this diff. change to 4 or 4.5 Changed to 4
- Move last kiai to 07:20:282 ? I think there is no need to move the kiai on that section, because the drums and the guitar of the chorus part start here.
- 01:16:232 (322,323,324,325) - kkddk is also looks good. No need to change it I think, the patterns are only make variations.
- 01:28:682 (439,440,441,442) - kddd looks better. With that way there will be only kdddkdddkdddkddd and that'd be boring.
- 01:47:432 (638,639,640,641) - change to kkddk or kdddk. It feels like something is missing. It's the general rhythm for this kinds of maps, so I'm gonna keep it.
- 02:07:007 - add d. if you don't wanna make long stream, remove 02:08:207 I'd like to keep it that way actually. Because skipping a sound in the middle of a stream is weirder than skipping a sound in the beginning of a stream.
- 02:22:082 - add d k (1/1) No need, I'm not following vocals there as I didn't follow vocals anywhere else on the break parts.
- 03:21:407 (1601,1602,1603,1604,1605,1606,1607,1608,1609,1610,1611,1612,1613,1614,1615,1616,1617) - remove all, and make another stream. No need, the drums are fit very well.
- 03:57:182 (1971,1972,1973,1974) - change to kkdd 03:57:182 (1970,1971,1972) - Changed to kkd instead.
- 05:10:682 (2470,2471,2472,2473,2474,2475,2476,2477,2478,2479,2480,2481,2482,2483,2484) - kkkkddkkkkddkkdd looks better The guitar and drums are going like that, so i'll not gonna change it.
- 05:27:332 - add dd Added one d instead.
- 06:37:157 - add d No need, I followed the drums there because the next patterns are already following the guitar.
remove freeze from premises, almost failed because of a freeze
1st bpm is 120 not 240 :thinking:
[tatsumeme]
01:47:582 - i don't see the point of a gap here, add a note or move one of these 01:47:507 (639,640) - at this point
01:48:782 (654,655,656,657,658) - i don't like how the pattern ends, it's really the same melody, kkkdk makes the end more significant, kkddk is more than enough
02:31:382 (1094,1095) - those doubles mang, tbh you can just do a big K and 02:31:682 (1096) - would be D
03:34:232 (1710,1711,1712,1713) - same as 3 above
05:52:982 (406,407,408,409,410,411) - ^
:thinking:
1st bpm is 120 not 240 :thinking:
[tatsumeme]
01:47:582 - i don't see the point of a gap here, add a note or move one of these 01:47:507 (639,640) - at this point
01:48:782 (654,655,656,657,658) - i don't like how the pattern ends, it's really the same melody, kkkdk makes the end more significant, kkddk is more than enough
02:31:382 (1094,1095) - those doubles mang, tbh you can just do a big K and 02:31:682 (1096) - would be D
03:34:232 (1710,1711,1712,1713) - same as 3 above
05:52:982 (406,407,408,409,410,411) - ^
:thinking:
Topic Starter
Thanks for your mod!Unmei Muma wrote:
remove freeze from premises, almost failed because of a freeze didn't understand what you mean
1st bpm is 120 not 240 :thinking: The timing is from Atsuro's standart map so I think it should be fine.
[tatsumeme]
01:47:582 - i don't see the point of a gap here, add a note or move one of these 01:47:507 (639,640) - at this point Okay since everybody is complaining about this part, I moved 01:47:507 (639) - to 01:47:582 - here.
01:48:782 (654,655,656,657,658) - i don't like how the pattern ends, it's really the same melody, kkkdk makes the end more significant, kkddk is more than enough There is a slight difference on the keyboard sounds, which I followed the higher pitches by using kats at the end.
02:31:382 (1094,1095) - those doubles mang, tbh you can just do a big K and 02:31:682 (1096) - would be D Almost all DragonForce maps have exactly the same patterns (mostly in the Fury of the Storm by Ozzy) on this guitar sound so I think that should be fine for just this part. This song also has guitar sounds like that in the guitar solo but I avoided there because of unneccessary star rate and doublets in 1/8.
03:34:232 (1710,1711,1712,1713) - same as 3 above 03:34:457 (1712) - To create variety, this time 03:34:457 (1712) - this note has moved.
05:52:982 (406,407,408,409,410,411) - ^ On this spot, I think it fits with the guitar.
:thinking: :thinking2:
tatsumeme? More like "MMzz Thingy" :thinking:Unmei Muma wrote:
remove freeze from premises, almost failed because of a freeze
1st bpm is 120 not 240 :thinking:
[tatsumeme]
01:47:582 - i don't see the point of a gap here, add a note or move one of these 01:47:507 (639,640) - at this point
01:48:782 (654,655,656,657,658) - i don't like how the pattern ends, it's really the same melody, kkkdk makes the end more significant, kkddk is more than enough
02:31:382 (1094,1095) - those doubles mang, tbh you can just do a big K and 02:31:682 (1096) - would be D
03:34:232 (1710,1711,1712,1713) - same as 3 above
05:52:982 (406,407,408,409,410,411) - ^
:thinking:
sir fruko (^_J^)7
dont kudosu
* 00:34:037 - 00:35:662 - 00:35:974 - and next other similar sounds, I think would be fun if you add only don for sounds like that
* 01:20:282 (357) - kat finish, normal notes is not fit imo even as stop emphasize of dons finisher
* 02:46:082 - forget kat this? weird if leave this don
* 02:50:207 (1303,1304) - ctrl g, good at flow.. kdkdk will fit if every kat that heard like single sounds.
* 05:19:232 - kat, more emphasize to guitar
* 05:50:282 - ... please make it easier from here.. I will like the current pattern if herman li is really really not human lol
<3
dont kudosu
* 00:34:037 - 00:35:662 - 00:35:974 - and next other similar sounds, I think would be fun if you add only don for sounds like that
* 01:20:282 (357) - kat finish, normal notes is not fit imo even as stop emphasize of dons finisher
* 02:46:082 - forget kat this? weird if leave this don
* 02:50:207 (1303,1304) - ctrl g, good at flow.. kdkdk will fit if every kat that heard like single sounds.
* 05:19:232 - kat, more emphasize to guitar
* 05:50:282 - ... please make it easier from here.. I will like the current pattern if herman li is really really not human lol
<3
Topic Starter
Thanks for the check :^)Surono wrote:
sir fruko (^_J^)7 Well hello sir Surono ^-^
dont kudosu As you wish sir...
* 00:34:037 - 00:35:662 - 00:35:974 - and next other similar sounds, I think would be fun if you add only don for sounds like that Added some notes, with only a kat exception at 00:39:537 (144) - here because of the high-pitched guitar sound.
* 01:20:282 (357) - kat finish, normal notes is not fit imo even as stop emphasize of dons finisher Yup, sounds good.
* 02:46:082 - forget kat this? weird if leave this don Applied due to the consistency on the first stream.
* 02:50:207 (1303,1304) - ctrl g, good at flow.. kdkdk will fit if every kat that heard like single sounds. True, it also supports the kick sound.
* 05:19:232 - kat, more emphasize to guitar 05:19:232 (77) - Speaking of guitar pitch, this note is lower compared to 05:19:082 (75) - this one. Also I only put kat notes to support high notes only as in 05:19:082 (75,79) - these ones. 05:19:457 (80) - This one is also high so I put it as a kat. Long story short, I'll keep it as don.
* 05:50:282 - ... please make it easier from here.. I will like the current pattern if herman li is really really not human lol Didn't make it easier but did something here. herman li is cool and cool > human so...
<3 Love you too ^^
00:35:287 - delete, 00:38:662 - add note ( kat to consistency with 00:38:287 - ), 00:39:537 - move to 00:39:662 - here because more accurate with the flow
00:40:412 - increase volume at least 50% or 75%, 5% too low... 07:31:232 - and Increase this volume.. change both of sampleset to Normal hitsounds because Drum hitsounds are not audiable
04:20:282 - ohh I see this redlines to fix overlap barlines right? ok blame herman li
I just nub when find that pattern but yeah its still comfortable * than shinsekai style pattern x_x *
00:40:412 - increase volume at least 50% or 75%, 5% too low... 07:31:232 - and Increase this volume.. change both of sampleset to Normal hitsounds because Drum hitsounds are not audiable
04:20:282 - ohh I see this redlines to fix overlap barlines right? ok blame herman li
yeah tbh I pass that previous stream pattern when play it offline lol and idk wat you did there for now or I forget the pattern b4, just 1 you might change it 05:50:807 (391) - don this bcus 05:50:282 (384,385,386,387,388,389) - & 05:50:882 (392,393,394,395,396,397) - so thats kat not really reasonable to be emphasized and thats over emphasize imofrukoyurdakul wrote:
Didn't make it easier but did something here. herman li is cool and cool > human so...
I just nub when find that pattern but yeah its still comfortable * than shinsekai style pattern x_x *
Topic Starter
Thank you so much for the recheck! luv yu <3Surono wrote:
00:35:287 - delete Why? A high-pitched keyboard sound exists there which I mapped the rest of this section harmoniously with keyboard sounds..., 00:38:662 - add note ( kat to consistency with 00:38:287 - ), 00:39:537 - move to 00:39:662 - here because more accurate with the flow Others applied.
00:40:412 - increase volume at least 50% or 75%, 5% too low... 07:31:232 - and Increase this volume.. change both of sampleset to Normal hitsounds because Drum hitsounds are not audiable Right. At these spots, hitsounds changed to normal and volumes changed to 40% instead of 50% or 75%.
04:20:282 - ohh I see this redlines to fix overlap barlines right? ok blame herman li Yeap. The first one has "omit the bar line" option to avoid 2 bar lines.yeah tbh I pass that previous stream pattern when play it offline lol and idk wat you did there for now or I forget the pattern b4, just 1 you might change it 05:50:807 (391) - don this bcus 05:50:282 (384,385,386,387,388,389) - & 05:50:882 (392,393,394,395,396,397) - so thats kat not really reasonable to be emphasized and thats over emphasize imo 05:50:807 (391) - Agreed, changed to don. Also, 05:51:407 (399,400) - Swapped due to the kick sound on the 400th note.frukoyurdakul wrote:
Didn't make it easier but did something here. herman li is cool and cool > human so...
I just nub when find that pattern but yeah its still comfortable * than shinsekai style pattern x_x * Changed one is better I can agree with that.
and wat de hel..
* 00:38:037 - white/red tick forget to added?
* 01:00:482 (187,189) - swap, 01:00:557 - then kat this... because 01:00:482 (187,188,191,192) -
* part before is ddkkk? and here ddddk, feels guitar ignored.. 02:35:432 - kat this at least
* 02:46:832 (1261,1262,1263,1264,1265,1266,1267) - kdkkddk.. reasons same as 2nd point
* 05:32:057 - too over emphasize, guitar flow are flat.. good to keep that if sound similar like 05:51:407 - here example
* 05:55:157 - move to 05:55:457 - here and 05:55:382 - change to don
* 06:36:382 (875,876) - swap.. alteration sounds are changed from 06:36:482 - here
* 06:41:732 -kat to emphasize guitar more and 06:42:257 - kat here too because the sounds are on same level ..not enough emphasized yet
its last cheeckkk, your map have done many times with selfmodding right? so sorry if I checkd many times. ( but I feel point out some old things.. lul you did some nice )
* 00:38:037 - white/red tick forget to added?
* 01:00:482 (187,189) - swap, 01:00:557 - then kat this... because 01:00:482 (187,188,191,192) -
* part before is ddkkk? and here ddddk, feels guitar ignored.. 02:35:432 - kat this at least
* 02:46:832 (1261,1262,1263,1264,1265,1266,1267) - kdkkddk.. reasons same as 2nd point
* 05:32:057 - too over emphasize, guitar flow are flat.. good to keep that if sound similar like 05:51:407 - here example
* 05:55:157 - move to 05:55:457 - here and 05:55:382 - change to don
* 06:36:382 (875,876) - swap.. alteration sounds are changed from 06:36:482 - here
* 06:41:732 -kat to emphasize guitar more and 06:42:257 - kat here too because the sounds are on same level ..not enough emphasized yet
its last cheeckkk, your map have done many times with selfmodding right? so sorry if I checkd many times. ( but I feel point out some old things.. lul you did some nice )
Topic Starter
Thanks for the check! (again and again...)Surono wrote:
and wat de hel..
* 00:38:037 - white/red tick forget to added? Yup, added.
* 01:00:482 (187,189) - swap, 01:00:557 - then kat this... because 01:00:482 (187,188,191,192) - Sounds nice.
* part before is ddkkk? and here ddddk, feels guitar ignored.. 02:35:432 - kat this at least Done.
* 02:46:832 (1261,1262,1263,1264,1265,1266,1267) - kdkkddk.. reasons same as 2nd point Done for consistency.
* 05:32:057 - too over emphasize, guitar flow are flat.. good to keep that if sound similar like 05:51:407 - here example Didn't want to end all the streams with monocolors, which means it's for variation. Also, like you said i need to keep that due to your point.
* 05:55:157 - move to 05:55:457 - here and 05:55:382 - change to don Moving the note is fine, but instead of changing 05:55:382 - this one to don, i changed 05:55:457 (437) - this one to kat due to higher guitar sound.
* 06:36:382 (875,876) - swap.. alteration sounds are changed from 06:36:482 - here Sounds good.
* 06:41:732 -kat to emphasize guitar more and 06:42:257 - kat here too because the sounds are on same level ..not enough emphasized yet First one is declined but 2nd one is applied. Also, 06:42:557 (940,941) - these two swapped due to prevent the kkkkdk pattern which is inconsistent for the map and 06:43:007 (946) - changed this one to kat due to the higher guitar sound.
its last cheeckkk, your map have done many times with selfmodding right? so sorry if I checkd many times. ( but I feel point out some old things.. lul you did some nice ) Man i am really appreciated for this loong time check, I really do.
Bubble inc
Alhamdullilah your own changed has good tho, Sir. *blue words lmao*
annnndddddd
Yeaaahh, Looks good.
#1
let ozzy's 1/8 duplet conquer world - Sir Furkon
annnndddddd
Yeaaahh, Looks good.
#1
let ozzy's 1/8 duplet conquer world - Sir Furkon
Topic Starter
Thank you sir!
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CAMEL DOWN, SCHOOL KIT!!11111!
Topic Starter
^ That.Surono wrote:
CAMEL DOWN, SCHOOL KIT!!11111!
SPOILER
herman li is okay20:35 Raiden: 04:57:932 - 04:58:532 - why stop there when you have followed the guitar all across the section
20:35 Raiden: no, finishers are not an excuse
20:35 Raiden: 05:00:707 (2407) - randomest 1/4 i've ever seen
20:36 frukoyurdakul: okay makes sense, added d on these 2 spots and removed the 1/4
20:37 Raiden: 05:52:982 (413,414,415,416,417,418) - random offbeat pattern?
20:38 Raiden: guitar does not do blue tick rhythm
20:38 Raiden:
20:38 frukoyurdakul: how about i delete 05:53:057 (414) - this one?
20:39 Raiden: keep it consistent
20:39 Raiden: delete the offbeat, make a normal pattern
20:39 Raiden: instead, use variety in this kiai 06:01:082 -
20:39 Raiden: that can use improvised offbeat patterns
20:39 frukoyurdakul: okay so 05:53:207 (416) -
20:39 Raiden: if you use them consistently on this part it will sound much better and not so repetitive
20:39 frukoyurdakul: 05:53:282 - moved to here
20:39 frukoyurdakul: 05:53:357 (417) - this one is deleted
20:40 Raiden: k
20:40 Raiden: 06:01:082 - 06:08:282 - vary this part
20:40 Raiden: it's so plain as it is rn
20:40 Raiden: you can spice it up
20:41 frukoyurdakul: hmm, what kind of variations? usage of doublets for example?
20:41 frukoyurdakul: not 1/8, 1/4
20:41 Raiden: if puush decides to work
20:41 Raiden: i know it's 1/4 doubles
20:42 Raiden: if you put 1/8 doubles there i'd fucking nuke the map lol
20:42 frukoyurdakul: haha
20:42 Raiden: https://puu.sh/wl080.png
20:42 Raiden: also use nc more frequentlyl those big numbers make it hard to see
20:43 frukoyurdakul: it was automatic, i wrote a program to organize the notes sorry :/
20:43 frukoyurdakul: okay, changed the first one
20:44 frukoyurdakul: how about another off-beat here?
20:44 frukoyurdakul: 06:04:082 (537,538,539,540,541) -
20:44 Raiden: yes
20:44 Raiden: add offbeats here and there
20:44 Raiden: i trust your sense of rhythm
20:44 Raiden: don't fucfk it up
20:45 frukoyurdakul: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8352286
20:45 frukoyurdakul: done something there
20:45 frukoyurdakul: 06:06:782 (565) - then i deleted this one
20:45 Raiden: k
20:47 Raiden: also not sure if you're aware but 06:35:882 (868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877) - this plays veeeeeeery badly
20:47 Raiden: the transition to 1/3 is unclear and since it's all dons it makes it just more confusing
20:47 frukoyurdakul: it was surono's idea
20:47 frukoyurdakul: 06:36:382 (871,872) - these 2 was swapped before
20:47 Raiden: also i'm counting the notes
20:47 Raiden: the guitar is actually
20:47 Raiden: not going 1/3
20:47 Raiden: LOL
20:48 frukoyurdakul: really?
20:48 Raiden: only 06:36:482 (874,875,876,877) - here
20:48 Raiden: it's 1/3
20:48 Raiden: count the number of guitar notes played
20:48 Raiden: 06:36:182 (871,872,873,874) - on this beat
20:48 frukoyurdakul: oh yeah you're right
20:48 Raiden: it's 4
20:48 Raiden: onyl the last 4
20:48 Raiden: are 1/3
20:49 frukoyurdakul: should I keep the last ones 1/3?
20:49 Raiden: ye
20:49 Raiden: for extra swag
20:49 frukoyurdakul: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8352328
20:49 frukoyurdakul: how is this?
20:49 Raiden: idk
20:49 Raiden: i'll test when it's updated
20:50 frukoyurdakul: oh sure
20:50 Raiden: and finally
20:50 Raiden: 07:37:082 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) -
20:50 Raiden: this is bad taste
20:50 Raiden: not placing any hand swap pattern in the entire map
20:50 Raiden: and the last 7 notes have it
20:50 Raiden: comeon...
20:50 Raiden: are you serious
20:51 frukoyurdakul: the guitar pitch is always decreasing so i followed a method like this but... i can make it more various yeah
20:51 Raiden: ye
20:51 Raiden: make it not hand-swappy
20:51 Raiden: because it's a dick move
20:52 frukoyurdakul: done something there
20:52 Raiden: k
20:52 frukoyurdakul: should I update it now?
20:53 Raiden: no
20:53 Raiden: 04:11:882 (2120,2121,2122,2123,2124,2125,2126,2127,2128,2129,2130,2131,2132,2133,2134,2135) -
20:53 Raiden: why isn't this
20:53 Raiden: kkddddddkkdddddd
20:53 Raiden: why all thos ekats
20:53 Raiden: where are they
20:53 Raiden: in the music
20:54 frukoyurdakul: nowhere, i just didn't want to map it that way
20:54 Raiden: sry kkddddkkdddd
20:54 Raiden: well i don't agree
20:54 frukoyurdakul: hmm, how about kdddddkdddddkdddk or sth like that?
20:54 frukoyurdakul: with one kats on these beats
20:54 Raiden: kdddddd is so boring
20:55 Raiden: maybe the first one
20:55 Raiden: but the second one kk
20:55 frukoyurdakul: done
20:55 frukoyurdakul: also changed the 1st one
20:56 Raiden: l
20:57 Raiden: 06:00:482 (503,504,505,506,507,508,509) - how about making this more kat-ish
20:57 Raiden: since you used kddkddk for the guitar
20:58 frukoyurdakul: 06:00:632 (504) - changed this one
20:58 frukoyurdakul: 06:00:557 (503) - not sure about this one
20:58 frukoyurdakul: kddkddkdkkkdkkd
20:58 frukoyurdakul: is it looking good?
20:58 Raiden: ye
20:58 Raiden: kat-ish
20:59 frukoyurdakul: done then
20:59 Raiden: k
20:59 Raiden: i don't have more bile to spit at this map
20:59 Raiden: i think
21:00 frukoyurdakul: hmm, if it looks good, i'll update now
21:04 frukoyurdakul: should I do it? it says it'll pop the bubble
21:04 Raiden: yes
21:04 Raiden: do it
21:05 frukoyurdakul: done
20:35 Raiden: no, finishers are not an excuse
20:35 Raiden: 05:00:707 (2407) - randomest 1/4 i've ever seen
20:36 frukoyurdakul: okay makes sense, added d on these 2 spots and removed the 1/4
20:37 Raiden: 05:52:982 (413,414,415,416,417,418) - random offbeat pattern?
20:38 Raiden: guitar does not do blue tick rhythm
20:38 Raiden:
20:38 frukoyurdakul: how about i delete 05:53:057 (414) - this one?
20:39 Raiden: keep it consistent
20:39 Raiden: delete the offbeat, make a normal pattern
20:39 Raiden: instead, use variety in this kiai 06:01:082 -
20:39 Raiden: that can use improvised offbeat patterns
20:39 frukoyurdakul: okay so 05:53:207 (416) -
20:39 Raiden: if you use them consistently on this part it will sound much better and not so repetitive
20:39 frukoyurdakul: 05:53:282 - moved to here
20:39 frukoyurdakul: 05:53:357 (417) - this one is deleted
20:40 Raiden: k
20:40 Raiden: 06:01:082 - 06:08:282 - vary this part
20:40 Raiden: it's so plain as it is rn
20:40 Raiden: you can spice it up
20:41 frukoyurdakul: hmm, what kind of variations? usage of doublets for example?
20:41 frukoyurdakul: not 1/8, 1/4
20:41 Raiden: if puush decides to work
20:41 Raiden: i know it's 1/4 doubles
20:42 Raiden: if you put 1/8 doubles there i'd fucking nuke the map lol
20:42 frukoyurdakul: haha
20:42 Raiden: https://puu.sh/wl080.png
20:42 Raiden: also use nc more frequentlyl those big numbers make it hard to see
20:43 frukoyurdakul: it was automatic, i wrote a program to organize the notes sorry :/
20:43 frukoyurdakul: okay, changed the first one
20:44 frukoyurdakul: how about another off-beat here?
20:44 frukoyurdakul: 06:04:082 (537,538,539,540,541) -
20:44 Raiden: yes
20:44 Raiden: add offbeats here and there
20:44 Raiden: i trust your sense of rhythm
20:44 Raiden: don't fucfk it up
20:45 frukoyurdakul: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8352286
20:45 frukoyurdakul: done something there
20:45 frukoyurdakul: 06:06:782 (565) - then i deleted this one
20:45 Raiden: k
20:47 Raiden: also not sure if you're aware but 06:35:882 (868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877) - this plays veeeeeeery badly
20:47 Raiden: the transition to 1/3 is unclear and since it's all dons it makes it just more confusing
20:47 frukoyurdakul: it was surono's idea
20:47 frukoyurdakul: 06:36:382 (871,872) - these 2 was swapped before
20:47 Raiden: also i'm counting the notes
20:47 Raiden: the guitar is actually
20:47 Raiden: not going 1/3
20:47 Raiden: LOL
20:48 frukoyurdakul: really?
20:48 Raiden: only 06:36:482 (874,875,876,877) - here
20:48 Raiden: it's 1/3
20:48 Raiden: count the number of guitar notes played
20:48 Raiden: 06:36:182 (871,872,873,874) - on this beat
20:48 frukoyurdakul: oh yeah you're right
20:48 Raiden: it's 4
20:48 Raiden: onyl the last 4
20:48 Raiden: are 1/3
20:49 frukoyurdakul: should I keep the last ones 1/3?
20:49 Raiden: ye
20:49 Raiden: for extra swag
20:49 frukoyurdakul: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8352328
20:49 frukoyurdakul: how is this?
20:49 Raiden: idk
20:49 Raiden: i'll test when it's updated
20:50 frukoyurdakul: oh sure
20:50 Raiden: and finally
20:50 Raiden: 07:37:082 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) -
20:50 Raiden: this is bad taste
20:50 Raiden: not placing any hand swap pattern in the entire map
20:50 Raiden: and the last 7 notes have it
20:50 Raiden: comeon...
20:50 Raiden: are you serious
20:51 frukoyurdakul: the guitar pitch is always decreasing so i followed a method like this but... i can make it more various yeah
20:51 Raiden: ye
20:51 Raiden: make it not hand-swappy
20:51 Raiden: because it's a dick move
20:52 frukoyurdakul: done something there
20:52 Raiden: k
20:52 frukoyurdakul: should I update it now?
20:53 Raiden: no
20:53 Raiden: 04:11:882 (2120,2121,2122,2123,2124,2125,2126,2127,2128,2129,2130,2131,2132,2133,2134,2135) -
20:53 Raiden: why isn't this
20:53 Raiden: kkddddddkkdddddd
20:53 Raiden: why all thos ekats
20:53 Raiden: where are they
20:53 Raiden: in the music
20:54 frukoyurdakul: nowhere, i just didn't want to map it that way
20:54 Raiden: sry kkddddkkdddd
20:54 Raiden: well i don't agree
20:54 frukoyurdakul: hmm, how about kdddddkdddddkdddk or sth like that?
20:54 frukoyurdakul: with one kats on these beats
20:54 Raiden: kdddddd is so boring
20:55 Raiden: maybe the first one
20:55 Raiden: but the second one kk
20:55 frukoyurdakul: done
20:55 frukoyurdakul: also changed the 1st one
20:56 Raiden: l
20:57 Raiden: 06:00:482 (503,504,505,506,507,508,509) - how about making this more kat-ish
20:57 Raiden: since you used kddkddk for the guitar
20:58 frukoyurdakul: 06:00:632 (504) - changed this one
20:58 frukoyurdakul: 06:00:557 (503) - not sure about this one
20:58 frukoyurdakul: kddkddkdkkkdkkd
20:58 frukoyurdakul: is it looking good?
20:58 Raiden: ye
20:58 Raiden: kat-ish
20:59 frukoyurdakul: done then
20:59 Raiden: k
20:59 Raiden: i don't have more bile to spit at this map
20:59 Raiden: i think
21:00 frukoyurdakul: hmm, if it looks good, i'll update now
21:04 frukoyurdakul: should I do it? it says it'll pop the bubble
21:04 Raiden: yes
21:04 Raiden: do it
21:05 frukoyurdakul: done
Tebrikler <3
Topic Starter
Raiden wrote:
SPOILERherman li is okay ???20:35 Raiden: 04:57:932 - 04:58:532 - why stop there when you have followed the guitar all across the section
20:35 Raiden: no, finishers are not an excuse
20:35 Raiden: 05:00:707 (2407) - randomest 1/4 i've ever seen
20:36 frukoyurdakul: okay makes sense, added d on these 2 spots and removed the 1/4
20:37 Raiden: 05:52:982 (413,414,415,416,417,418) - random offbeat pattern?
20:38 Raiden: guitar does not do blue tick rhythm
20:38 Raiden:
20:38 frukoyurdakul: how about i delete 05:53:057 (414) - this one?
20:39 Raiden: keep it consistent
20:39 Raiden: delete the offbeat, make a normal pattern
20:39 Raiden: instead, use variety in this kiai 06:01:082 -
20:39 Raiden: that can use improvised offbeat patterns
20:39 frukoyurdakul: okay so 05:53:207 (416) -
20:39 Raiden: if you use them consistently on this part it will sound much better and not so repetitive
20:39 frukoyurdakul: 05:53:282 - moved to here
20:39 frukoyurdakul: 05:53:357 (417) - this one is deleted
20:40 Raiden: k
20:40 Raiden: 06:01:082 - 06:08:282 - vary this part
20:40 Raiden: it's so plain as it is rn
20:40 Raiden: you can spice it up
20:41 frukoyurdakul: hmm, what kind of variations? usage of doublets for example?
20:41 frukoyurdakul: not 1/8, 1/4
20:41 Raiden: if puush decides to work
20:41 Raiden: i know it's 1/4 doubles
20:42 Raiden: if you put 1/8 doubles there i'd fucking nuke the map lol
20:42 frukoyurdakul: haha
20:42 Raiden: https://puu.sh/wl080.png
20:42 Raiden: also use nc more frequentlyl those big numbers make it hard to see
20:43 frukoyurdakul: it was automatic, i wrote a program to organize the notes sorry :/
20:43 frukoyurdakul: okay, changed the first one
20:44 frukoyurdakul: how about another off-beat here?
20:44 frukoyurdakul: 06:04:082 (537,538,539,540,541) -
20:44 Raiden: yes
20:44 Raiden: add offbeats here and there
20:44 Raiden: i trust your sense of rhythm
20:44 Raiden: don't fucfk it up
20:45 frukoyurdakul: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8352286
20:45 frukoyurdakul: done something there
20:45 frukoyurdakul: 06:06:782 (565) - then i deleted this one
20:45 Raiden: k
20:47 Raiden: also not sure if you're aware but 06:35:882 (868,869,870,871,872,873,874,875,876,877) - this plays veeeeeeery badly
20:47 Raiden: the transition to 1/3 is unclear and since it's all dons it makes it just more confusing
20:47 frukoyurdakul: it was surono's idea
20:47 frukoyurdakul: 06:36:382 (871,872) - these 2 was swapped before
20:47 Raiden: also i'm counting the notes
20:47 Raiden: the guitar is actually
20:47 Raiden: not going 1/3
20:47 Raiden: LOL
20:48 frukoyurdakul: really?
20:48 Raiden: only 06:36:482 (874,875,876,877) - here
20:48 Raiden: it's 1/3
20:48 Raiden: count the number of guitar notes played
20:48 Raiden: 06:36:182 (871,872,873,874) - on this beat
20:48 frukoyurdakul: oh yeah you're right
20:48 Raiden: it's 4
20:48 Raiden: onyl the last 4
20:48 Raiden: are 1/3
20:49 frukoyurdakul: should I keep the last ones 1/3?
20:49 Raiden: ye
20:49 Raiden: for extra swag
20:49 frukoyurdakul: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8352328
20:49 frukoyurdakul: how is this?
20:49 Raiden: idk
20:49 Raiden: i'll test when it's updated
20:50 frukoyurdakul: oh sure
20:50 Raiden: and finally
20:50 Raiden: 07:37:082 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) -
20:50 Raiden: this is bad taste
20:50 Raiden: not placing any hand swap pattern in the entire map
20:50 Raiden: and the last 7 notes have it
20:50 Raiden: comeon...
20:50 Raiden: are you serious
20:51 frukoyurdakul: the guitar pitch is always decreasing so i followed a method like this but... i can make it more various yeah
20:51 Raiden: ye
20:51 Raiden: make it not hand-swappy
20:51 Raiden: because it's a dick move
20:52 frukoyurdakul: done something there
20:52 Raiden: k
20:52 frukoyurdakul: should I update it now?
20:53 Raiden: no
20:53 Raiden: 04:11:882 (2120,2121,2122,2123,2124,2125,2126,2127,2128,2129,2130,2131,2132,2133,2134,2135) -
20:53 Raiden: why isn't this
20:53 Raiden: kkddddddkkdddddd
20:53 Raiden: why all thos ekats
20:53 Raiden: where are they
20:53 Raiden: in the music
20:54 frukoyurdakul: nowhere, i just didn't want to map it that way
20:54 Raiden: sry kkddddkkdddd
20:54 Raiden: well i don't agree
20:54 frukoyurdakul: hmm, how about kdddddkdddddkdddk or sth like that?
20:54 frukoyurdakul: with one kats on these beats
20:54 Raiden: kdddddd is so boring
20:55 Raiden: maybe the first one
20:55 Raiden: but the second one kk
20:55 frukoyurdakul: done
20:55 frukoyurdakul: also changed the 1st one
20:56 Raiden: l
20:57 Raiden: 06:00:482 (503,504,505,506,507,508,509) - how about making this more kat-ish
20:57 Raiden: since you used kddkddk for the guitar
20:58 frukoyurdakul: 06:00:632 (504) - changed this one
20:58 frukoyurdakul: 06:00:557 (503) - not sure about this one
20:58 frukoyurdakul: kddkddkdkkkdkkd
20:58 frukoyurdakul: is it looking good?
20:58 Raiden: ye
20:58 Raiden: kat-ish
20:59 frukoyurdakul: done then
20:59 Raiden: k
20:59 Raiden: i don't have more bile to spit at this map
20:59 Raiden: i think
21:00 frukoyurdakul: hmm, if it looks good, i'll update now
21:04 frukoyurdakul: should I do it? it says it'll pop the bubble
21:04 Raiden: yes
21:04 Raiden: do it
21:05 frukoyurdakul: done
Eyv.zigizigiefe wrote:
Tebrikler amına koduğum <3
HOLYYYYY
Topic Starter
I KNOOOWSurono wrote:
HOLYYYYY
Hope so :kermit:LZD wrote:
almost there mate
Hello! I have some concerns about 1/8 doublet usage
The guitar sound on 02:31:382 (1096,1097) - and 02:31:982 (1099,1100) - is not really clear to put 1/8 doublet , I guess you may try to make difference with 02:31:082 (1095) - and 02:31:682 (1098) - but in my opinion, just remove 02:31:419 (1097) - and 02:32:019 (1100) - still can differ two timbres. So I think you can reconsider it.
05:19:682 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - these 1/8 doublet are acceptable for me as you trying to emphasize the guitar's sound, but I think follow drum would be more better because DragonForce's song has strong drum element. you can take this as reference(05:19:607 - ~05:20:207 - ).
05:39:482 - ~05:41:882 - I think this part is not really suitable to use 1/8 doublet because there is drum sounds apparently . you could follow the drum as you mapped in 05:34:682 - ~05:37:082 - . There is thereference(05:39:482 - ~05:41:582 - ) (285,286 and 287 are finisher).
That's what I concerned.
The guitar sound on 02:31:382 (1096,1097) - and 02:31:982 (1099,1100) - is not really clear to put 1/8 doublet , I guess you may try to make difference with 02:31:082 (1095) - and 02:31:682 (1098) - but in my opinion, just remove 02:31:419 (1097) - and 02:32:019 (1100) - still can differ two timbres. So I think you can reconsider it.
05:19:682 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - these 1/8 doublet are acceptable for me as you trying to emphasize the guitar's sound, but I think follow drum would be more better because DragonForce's song has strong drum element. you can take this as reference(05:19:607 - ~05:20:207 - ).
05:39:482 - ~05:41:882 - I think this part is not really suitable to use 1/8 doublet because there is drum sounds apparently . you could follow the drum as you mapped in 05:34:682 - ~05:37:082 - . There is thereference(05:39:482 - ~05:41:582 - ) (285,286 and 287 are finisher).
That's what I concerned.
Literally all pointed out spots possess guitar tremolo
Guitar is much stronger than drums right there
Guitar is much stronger than drums right there
rip pepe keks
Topic Starter
As Raiden mentioned in his post, the doublets you've mentioned are only on guitar tremolo sounds, which most of the power metal maps (a.k.a Road of Resistance, Fury of the Storm etc.) include doublets on these kinds of sounds. That's why I mapped the most noticable tremolo sounds as 1/8 because it emphasizes the best way.qoot8123 wrote:
Hello! I have some concerns about 1/8 doublet usage
The guitar sound on 02:31:382 (1096,1097) - and 02:31:982 (1099,1100) - is not really clear to put 1/8 doublet , I guess you may try to make difference with 02:31:082 (1095) - and 02:31:682 (1098) - but in my opinion, just remove 02:31:419 (1097) - and 02:32:019 (1100) - still can differ two timbres. So I think you can reconsider it.The recent DragonForce maps have these kinds of doublets on guitar tremolo sounds. These ones are very prominent, that's why I put a doublet on these spots.
05:19:682 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - these 1/8 doublet are acceptable for me as you trying to emphasize the guitar's sound, but I think follow drum would be more better because DragonForce's song has strong drum element. you can take this as reference(05:19:607 - ~05:20:207 - ).
05:39:482 - ~05:41:882 - I think this part is not really suitable to use 1/8 doublet because there is drum sounds apparently . you could follow the drum as you mapped in 05:34:682 - ~05:37:082 - . There is thereference(05:39:482 - ~05:41:582 - ) (285,286 and 287 are finisher).
That's what I concerned.
İlk bakışta ben de 1/8 doubletlerin tutarsız olduğunu düşünmüştüm ama şimdi fark ettim ki hepsi tremolo sesine denk geliyor.Ben hiçbir sıkıntı göremiyorum
eng. translation so you guys can understand what i mean lul
inb4 terima kasih tuan suronoAt first sight,I thought 1/8 doublets were inconsistent as well but I just realized that all of 1/8 doublets are at tremolo sounds.I can't see any problem.
There are tremolo indeed, but the last one actually also has 1/4 drum sounds which is much stronger than first and second one (even more obvious than the maps you mentioned) , you may think change to 1/4 may make inconsistent with former 1/8 doublets, but the current one also inconsistent with 05:34:682 - ~05:37:082 - which mainly followed drum, and use hitsound to represent guitar.frukoyurdakul wrote:
As Raiden mentioned in his post, the doublets you've mentioned are only on guitar tremolo sounds, which most of the power metal maps (a.k.a Road of Resistance, Fury of the Storm etc.) include doublets on these kinds of sounds. That's why I mapped the most noticable tremolo sounds as 1/8 because it emphasizes the best way.qoot8123 wrote:
Hello! I have some concerns about 1/8 doublet usage
The guitar sound on 02:31:382 (1096,1097) - and 02:31:982 (1099,1100) - is not really clear to put 1/8 doublet , I guess you may try to make difference with 02:31:082 (1095) - and 02:31:682 (1098) - but in my opinion, just remove 02:31:419 (1097) - and 02:32:019 (1100) - still can differ two timbres. So I think you can reconsider it.
05:19:682 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89) - these 1/8 doublet are acceptable for me as you trying to emphasize the guitar's sound, but I think follow drum would be more better because DragonForce's song has strong drum element. you can take this as reference(05:19:607 - ~05:20:207 - ).
05:39:482 - ~05:41:882 - I think this part is not really suitable to use 1/8 doublet because there is drum sounds apparently . you could follow the drum as you mapped in 05:34:682 - ~05:37:082 - . There is thereference(05:39:482 - ~05:41:582 - ) (285,286 and 287 are finisher).
That's what I concerned.
Sorry that I didn't explain well due to unprofessional English skill, I hope you can understand what I mean .
Topic Starter
Discussed through Discord with qoot8123, and I explained the reason about usage of 1/8 doublets. No need for disqualification if nothing else is a problem. Chat log available on request.
Yes. I request the chat log. Always put it in so QATs can actually check it out by themself if needed.
Topic Starter
Okay, since I don't know how to save the chat log from Discord, I took some screenshots.