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The Prototypes - Slip Away

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Secretpipe
3,316 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Secretpipe
Let's sum this :

• Fixed the Easy
• Fixed some things from the Wishkey mod (tyvm!)
• Removed highlight's file
• Removed lines in .osu which were about the highlight file
• "In The City of Gold" → "In the City of Gold"

Ladies and gentlemans , let's rerank that!
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
Rechecked with mapper and made some changes, lets bring this back, Rebubbled.

SPOILER
2017-02-11 21:44 Karen: np the map?
2017-02-11 21:44 Secretpipe: sure
2017-02-11 21:45 Secretpipe: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1110971 The Prototypes - Slip Away]
2017-02-11 21:50 Karen: in Normal 00:55:781 - this green line is unsnapped
2017-02-11 21:50 Karen: it's unused
2017-02-11 21:50 Secretpipe: damnit again
2017-02-11 21:51 Secretpipe: removedé
2017-02-11 21:51 Secretpipe: removed~
2017-02-11 21:52 Karen: wew dat french
2017-02-11 21:52 Secretpipe: ehe
2017-02-11 21:52 Secretpipe: them accent
2017-02-11 21:52 Karen: btw are you sure about the custom diffname
2017-02-11 21:53 Secretpipe: hm ?
2017-02-11 21:53 Karen: 'In The City of Gold looks better than with a small "the" imo'
2017-02-11 21:53 Karen: is that right?
2017-02-11 21:53 Secretpipe: well
2017-02-11 21:53 Secretpipe: i put everything with capital letters
2017-02-11 21:53 Secretpipe: it's In The City Of Gold now
2017-02-11 21:53 Secretpipe: if you redl'd~
2017-02-11 21:54 Karen: yes i redl'd, i mean according to his words you should use 'the'
2017-02-11 21:54 Karen: so
2017-02-11 21:54 Secretpipe: oh
2017-02-11 21:54 Secretpipe: mb
2017-02-11 21:54 Karen: i don't know english
2017-02-11 21:54 Secretpipe: well
2017-02-11 21:54 Secretpipe: lemme read again
2017-02-11 21:55 Secretpipe: did i wrongly read that
2017-02-11 21:55 Secretpipe: lmao
2017-02-11 21:55 Secretpipe: im bad too
2017-02-11 21:55 Karen: lol
2017-02-11 21:56 Secretpipe: Ah
2017-02-11 21:56 Secretpipe: cuz it was
2017-02-11 21:56 Secretpipe: "In the City of Gold"
2017-02-11 21:56 Secretpipe: I'll do like that yes
2017-02-11 21:57 Secretpipe: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1101063 The Prototypes - Slip Away [In the City of Gold]]
2017-02-11 21:57 Karen: yes it's supposed to be like this
2017-02-11 21:57 Secretpipe: hurray ww
Secretpipe
3,316 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Secretpipe
Big thanks man!
Sonnyc
7,753 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
Easy.
01:12:320 (1) - The second part of the curve was being sharp atm. You can polish this better.
01:58:201 (3,4) - You won't want a sudden jump.
02:35:097 - A sv decrease happens out of nowhere imo but even it is acceptable, the spacing changes of 02:40:615 - 02:46:132 - 1.00x -> 1.10x -> 1.20x is not acceptable. This is the lowest difficulty. Such complexed spacing concept is never beginner friendly to happen.

Normal.
01:30:270 (3,1) - Can this be a better parallel?

Insane.
00:36:470 (1) - No need for such a wobbling slider in a calm part of the song imo.
00:53:888 (5,6,1) - I don't think this is a good spacing to use. The 1/2 and the 1/4 is being the same. The individual idea of this spacing could work, but a combination with the 1/4 afterwards was the issue.
01:31:477 (4) - The beat here is really vague. It isn't a good idea to let this clickable if you want to reflect the song properly.

Expert.
00:28:194 (1,2) - The visual spacing looked a bit too close compared to other ones.
01:48:201 (1,2,3) - The volume of the music is quite low but having such a huge jump felt a little non-sense for me.
02:53:718 (4,5,6,7) - There was a change in the music. Keep using the large 1/2 spacing at (4,5) wasn't reflecting the aspect of the song imo.

I've got rhythm concerns on the lower diffs. While the easy was quite following the drum beats, the result of that lead to some very complexed rhythm concept in the kiai section. 3/2 happens every here and there, and even a circle only section happens in 02:29:580 (4,1,2,3). Then when looking at normal, rhythms are just way too simple. A constant 1/1 and some 1/2s which felt less complexed than easy. Considering the rhythms of the hard, I don't think such rhythm selections were forming a good mapset design.

Also the SB was broken in the fallback client. You'll want that a fix for a fair gameplay experience for all possible audience. I'll get someone to help this issue.

Not bad overall, but I think there's something more to work on.
Sidetail
1,268 posts
Joined October 2012
Sidetail
Request from Sonnyc

From osu!fallback version, 1x1 image seems to break.
example

Replace code at line 7403 (last element in osb) to

Sprite,Background,Centre,"SB\elements\block.png",320,240
 C,0,110916,,255,255,255
 M,0,110959,,320,240
 V,0,110959,,5.7,3.45
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 F,19,133028,144063,1,0
 F,0,155054,155097,0,1
 F,19,155097,166132,1,0

Might be ok if you remove M function but negligible.

Please have a look at other places where you used 1x1 image in fallback version and check if other ones behave properly. (If it doesnt, please use block.png)
Secretpipe
3,316 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Secretpipe
uhh

Will look at these during the week

About SV changes, it's normal lol
if you glanced at it , you could notice that the bpm goes from 87 to 174, it explains something I guess
(lol about the spread im not totally agreeing with you but i'll take a look!)
Zerss
730 posts
Joined December 2013
Zerss

Sonnyc wrote:

Also the SB was broken in the fallback client. You'll want that a fix for a fair gameplay experience for all possible audience. I'll get someone to help this issue.
I already know about this issue, reported it but nobody cared (saying fallback is supposed to not work correctly (wat)), so I guess I can't do anything about it.
Since they said that fallback isn't a version people should use and that we don't care about it, I kept that.
Secretpipe
3,316 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Secretpipe
will take a look in a few days
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Pachiru
osu! Alumni
2,957 posts
Joined June 2013
Pachiru
Don't give up my child ;w;
Kin
2,618 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin

Sonnyc wrote:

Insane.
00:36:470 (1) - No need for such a wobbling slider in a calm part of the song imo. if you take a closer look, You'll see the wobbling is actually following the vocal. The wobbling is exactly here 00:36:814 - ; when the pitch of the vocal change
00:53:888 (5,6,1) - I don't think this is a good spacing to use. The 1/2 and the 1/4 is being the same. The individual idea of this spacing could work, but a combination with the 1/4 afterwards was the issue. actually, my pattern wasn't like this, dunno why it's like this, tho, I changed it to the way it was
01:31:477 (4) - The beat here is really vague. It isn't a good idea to let this clickable if you want to reflect the song properly. I changed it with my style (since it wasn't my pattern)
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Secretpipe
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Sonnyc wrote:

Easy.
01:12:320 (1) - The second part of the curve was being sharp atm. You can polish this better. done
01:58:201 (3,4) - You won't want a sudden jump. fixed
02:35:097 - A sv decrease happens out of nowhere imo but even it is acceptable, the spacing changes of 02:40:615 - 02:46:132 - 1.00x -> 1.10x -> 1.20x is not acceptable. This is the lowest difficulty. Such complexed spacing concept is never beginner friendly to happen.
sticked 1.2 for spacing cuz the sv changed a bit (havin 1.0 would make the notes being close to each other). great catch

Normal.
01:30:270 (3,1) - Can this be a better parallel? did it


Expert.
00:28:194 (1,2) - The visual spacing looked a bit too close compared to other ones. nice one! fixed
01:48:201 (1,2,3) - The volume of the music is quite low but having such a huge jump felt a little non-sense for me. that's the aim of the build IMO and tbh it's fine as it is
02:53:718 (4,5,6,7) - There was a change in the music. Keep using the large 1/2 spacing at (4,5) wasn't reflecting the aspect of the song imo. great catch! fixed too

I've got rhythm concerns on the lower diffs. While the easy was quite following the drum beats, the result of that lead to some very complexed rhythm concept in the kiai section. 3/2 happens every here and there, and even a circle only section happens in 02:29:580 (4,1,2,3). Then when looking at normal, rhythms are just way too simple. A constant 1/1 and some 1/2s which felt less complexed than easy. Considering the rhythms of the hard, I don't think such rhythm selections were forming a good mapset design.

Also the SB was broken in the fallback client. You'll want that a fix for a fair gameplay experience for all possible audience. I'll get someone to help this issue.

Not bad overall, but I think there's something more to work on.

Bout SB , Zerss already replied and it's fine as it is currently.

Also about your rhythms concerns : It's still really obvious what the 1/1 rhythms are , and even tho visually the pattern changed a bit ,there are no overlaps and it's still clear what rhythm the players are supposed to use! Cuz you know , it's pretty obvious these all are 1/1 rhythms are stuff anyway! The spacing increase by what ? a few pixels? So yeah I wanted to clarify that haha!

Thank you very much for modding ! Useful mod!
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Thank you very much!
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soon (tm) one more exam (tm)
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good luck with it! hope you finished your paper :D
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Normal

01:59:925 (3,4) - Fix this spacing here, it's a bit inconsistent.

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That's all, poke me when you've fixed~
Secretpipe
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fixed! tyvm!
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Requalified!
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Didn't qualify something since September, feels good to be back! (:

Thank you very much to everyone for the support!~
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