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normal-hitwhistle6 feels a bit delayed cause of http://i.imgur.com/SOQQBIx.jpg
maybe give this version a try http://puu.sh/uvahV/a0e268f170.wav ?
how about silencing soft-sliderslide? would fit the calm parts really well and it's not noticeable in the more intense ones anyways
hana
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I think 8 or maybe 8.5 would be fine already, the drain on 9 becomes really weird due to the heavy nc usage in the chorus
the kiai feels a bit empty hitsounding wise, maybe you could add some soft whistles on the most important vocals or something?
00:21:535 (1,2,1,2) - I don't think this pattern really fits since 00:21:868 (1,2) - sounds so different. Idk what to suggest as alternative though :c but it seems you usually mapped this as a 1/2 slider like on 00:18:868 - , so maybe here too?
00:26:202 (1,1) - - I think the transition into this is a bit too akwward considering it's a sudden really spaced triple, maybe you could move 00:26:202 (1) - a bit for a nicer angle? http://i.imgur.com/gDoUTsi.jpg // 01:38:202 (1,1,2,3) - this is seemed much nicer to play
really minor, but how about moving the nodes on the left side a bit closer to right? currently looks like http://i.imgur.com/s2EhRB8.jpg ingame which seems a bit unfitting with your other shapes. something like http://i.imgur.com/QlQcpsH.jpg
00:40:701 (2) - snapping seems wrong, sounds more like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/FOoz0NNZ, but 1/2 should be okay for simplification
aya
same suggestion to silence sliderslides since it seems your hitsounding is different
00:16:869 - red/green line should have same volume/sampleset settings here
01:09:035 - two timing points on the same tick, delete one of them
00:25:535 (3) - I dont think the 1/16 snap is intentional here lol
00:28:868 - 70% volume seems way too loud here imo. maybe ~50% ?
00:40:702 (1,2) - snapping issue I think, see top diff
00:41:535 (5) - think it would be nice if this was a repeat for a better transition to the 1/3 rhythm
00:42:091 (2,1) - also this should really be reduced a bit since it's basically a 270 bpm 1/2 jump. maybe you could try something like http://i.imgur.com/qI0qJqk.jpg here?
00:42:202 - love what you did with the guitar panning left/right in this part!
00:50:202 (1,2,1,2) - with how you usually pattern your 1/4, rhythm becomes really hard to get here which makes it pretty frustrating to play. maybe you could do http://i.imgur.com/nlDTPpi.jpg ?
00:58:535 (2) - maybe you add another nc here? current always makes me expect 00:58:452 - to be a downbeat and makes it so easy to misread rhythm since you don't really utilize blue tick ncs
01:01:118 (2,2) - are these supposed to be stacked o:
can you reduce the finish spam in the kiai a bit? things like 01:06:202 (5,6,7,1) - really see a bit too much
01:31:868 (2,3) - minor, but would look so much nicer without the small overlap here lol
meg
00:32:868 (3,4,5) - personally think this would look really cute with some rotation on each slider. like 15° => 30° maybe http://i.imgur.com/cnk5VAd.jpg ?
01:02:202 (1) - how about using one more grey node on the right side to make it a bit rounder there? http://lasse.s-ul.eu/Rv73b2VY
01:27:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - would look great if you increased spacing a little cause it looks a bit cluttered right now, maybe like 10% ? http://lasse.s-ul.eu/o38NYdY7
z
would lower hp a bit as this is the easiest insane, 6 should be okay
00:11:536 (1) - why is this snapped to the blue tick o: vocal and piano should be on downbeat
00:41:535 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - seems a bit too much for such a low diff :c how about something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/NodCxa7x ?
00:56:035 (3) - think this slider ignores too much with the strong vocal it skips and all. how about http://lasse.s-ul.eu/qxaqi7is ?
01:04:202 (7) - shouldnt this also have nc like the next note?
hard
00:57:702 (5) - why does the 1/4 repeat start here already when the drumroll starts on 00:57:868 - ?
normal
00:15:286 (1,1) - recovery time is way too low here for normal, would delete the spinner or replace with a slider
00:37:535 (2) - can you overlap way less of this? bit edgy for a normal. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/us6oT6dd maybe
00:48:202 (3) - ^
00:51:368 (4,5,6) - wew lol. maybe at least something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/SnDjdiic to avoid that confusing back and forth stack?
00:55:535 (1,2,3) - also seems really cluttered :/
easy
how about inreasing cs a bit? 2 makes it feel so cluttered. 2.4-2.6 would probably make it nicer and still be easy
00:09:036 (2) - think it would be better to just space this normally to make rhythm easier to understand for beginners. could also adjust the slider a bit to get http://lasse.s-ul.eu/lW0AbOaH
01:15:535 (1) - shape could be a bit hard to read for easy with how much the head overlaps. maybe http://lasse.s-ul.eu/BVAAwhSk or http://lasse.s-ul.eu/KbEesDvH ?
01:19:535 (3,4,1) - really easy to misread cause slider leads 01:20:868 (1) - and not 01:20:535 (4) - and they are both close. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/JzDqE5d3 would be much easier
01:30:202 (3,4,1) - ^
00:55:868 (2,3,1) - maybe same problem as ^ just with circles/movement
[]
nice set, I just think e/n could be a bit easier to read for newer players. feel free to call me back if you can do that!
general
normal-hitwhistle6 feels a bit delayed cause of http://i.imgur.com/SOQQBIx.jpg
maybe give this version a try http://puu.sh/uvahV/a0e268f170.wav ?
how about silencing soft-sliderslide? would fit the calm parts really well and it's not noticeable in the more intense ones anyways
hana
I think 8 or maybe 8.5 would be fine already, the drain on 9 becomes really weird due to the heavy nc usage in the chorus
the kiai feels a bit empty hitsounding wise, maybe you could add some soft whistles on the most important vocals or something?
00:21:535 (1,2,1,2) - I don't think this pattern really fits since 00:21:868 (1,2) - sounds so different. Idk what to suggest as alternative though :c but it seems you usually mapped this as a 1/2 slider like on 00:18:868 - , so maybe here too?
00:26:202 (1,1) - - I think the transition into this is a bit too akwward considering it's a sudden really spaced triple, maybe you could move 00:26:202 (1) - a bit for a nicer angle? http://i.imgur.com/gDoUTsi.jpg // 01:38:202 (1,1,2,3) - this is seemed much nicer to play
really minor, but how about moving the nodes on the left side a bit closer to right? currently looks like http://i.imgur.com/s2EhRB8.jpg ingame which seems a bit unfitting with your other shapes. something like http://i.imgur.com/QlQcpsH.jpg
00:40:701 (2) - snapping seems wrong, sounds more like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/FOoz0NNZ, but 1/2 should be okay for simplification
aya
same suggestion to silence sliderslides since it seems your hitsounding is different
00:16:869 - red/green line should have same volume/sampleset settings here
01:09:035 - two timing points on the same tick, delete one of them
00:25:535 (3) - I dont think the 1/16 snap is intentional here lol
00:28:868 - 70% volume seems way too loud here imo. maybe ~50% ?
00:40:702 (1,2) - snapping issue I think, see top diff
00:41:535 (5) - think it would be nice if this was a repeat for a better transition to the 1/3 rhythm
00:42:091 (2,1) - also this should really be reduced a bit since it's basically a 270 bpm 1/2 jump. maybe you could try something like http://i.imgur.com/qI0qJqk.jpg here?
00:42:202 - love what you did with the guitar panning left/right in this part!
00:50:202 (1,2,1,2) - with how you usually pattern your 1/4, rhythm becomes really hard to get here which makes it pretty frustrating to play. maybe you could do http://i.imgur.com/nlDTPpi.jpg ?
00:58:535 (2) - maybe you add another nc here? current always makes me expect 00:58:452 - to be a downbeat and makes it so easy to misread rhythm since you don't really utilize blue tick ncs
01:01:118 (2,2) - are these supposed to be stacked o:
can you reduce the finish spam in the kiai a bit? things like 01:06:202 (5,6,7,1) - really see a bit too much
01:31:868 (2,3) - minor, but would look so much nicer without the small overlap here lol
meg
00:32:868 (3,4,5) - personally think this would look really cute with some rotation on each slider. like 15° => 30° maybe http://i.imgur.com/cnk5VAd.jpg ?
01:02:202 (1) - how about using one more grey node on the right side to make it a bit rounder there? http://lasse.s-ul.eu/Rv73b2VY
01:27:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - would look great if you increased spacing a little cause it looks a bit cluttered right now, maybe like 10% ? http://lasse.s-ul.eu/o38NYdY7
z
would lower hp a bit as this is the easiest insane, 6 should be okay
00:11:536 (1) - why is this snapped to the blue tick o: vocal and piano should be on downbeat
00:41:535 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - seems a bit too much for such a low diff :c how about something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/NodCxa7x ?
00:56:035 (3) - think this slider ignores too much with the strong vocal it skips and all. how about http://lasse.s-ul.eu/qxaqi7is ?
01:04:202 (7) - shouldnt this also have nc like the next note?
hard
00:57:702 (5) - why does the 1/4 repeat start here already when the drumroll starts on 00:57:868 - ?
normal
00:15:286 (1,1) - recovery time is way too low here for normal, would delete the spinner or replace with a slider
00:37:535 (2) - can you overlap way less of this? bit edgy for a normal. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/us6oT6dd maybe
00:48:202 (3) - ^
00:51:368 (4,5,6) - wew lol. maybe at least something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/SnDjdiic to avoid that confusing back and forth stack?
00:55:535 (1,2,3) - also seems really cluttered :/
easy
how about inreasing cs a bit? 2 makes it feel so cluttered. 2.4-2.6 would probably make it nicer and still be easy
00:09:036 (2) - think it would be better to just space this normally to make rhythm easier to understand for beginners. could also adjust the slider a bit to get http://lasse.s-ul.eu/lW0AbOaH
01:15:535 (1) - shape could be a bit hard to read for easy with how much the head overlaps. maybe http://lasse.s-ul.eu/BVAAwhSk or http://lasse.s-ul.eu/KbEesDvH ?
01:19:535 (3,4,1) - really easy to misread cause slider leads 01:20:868 (1) - and not 01:20:535 (4) - and they are both close. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/JzDqE5d3 would be much easier
01:30:202 (3,4,1) - ^
00:55:868 (2,3,1) - maybe same problem as ^ just with circles/movement
[]
nice set, I just think e/n could be a bit easier to read for newer players. feel free to call me back if you can do that!
Fushimi Rio
and z1 fixed his diff except 00:56:035 (3) because he'd like to follow drums here. Thanks for modding!Lasse wrote:
from m4m
general
normal-hitwhistle6 feels a bit delayed cause of http://i.imgur.com/SOQQBIx.jpg
maybe give this version a try http://puu.sh/uvahV/a0e268f170.wav ? I don't know. Let me ask Meg about it.
how about silencing soft-sliderslide? would fit the calm parts really well and it's not noticeable in the more intense ones anyways sure
hana
I think 8 or maybe 8.5 would be fine already, the drain on 9 becomes really weird due to the heavy nc usage in the chorus reduced to 8.5
the kiai feels a bit empty hitsounding wise, maybe you could add some soft whistles on the most important vocals or something? added some
00:21:535 (1,2,1,2) - I don't think this pattern really fits since 00:21:868 (1,2) - sounds so different. Idk what to suggest as alternative though :c but it seems you usually mapped this as a 1/2 slider like on 00:18:868 - , so maybe here too? I feel the idea of this pattern is to divide this part into two gradually stronger patterns, and personally I think the idea is fine. (also because I got no idea to change it into a slider
00:26:202 (1,1) - - I think the transition into this is a bit too akwward considering it's a sudden really spaced triple, maybe you could move 00:26:202 (1) - a bit for a nicer angle? http://i.imgur.com/gDoUTsi.jpg // 01:38:202 (1,1,2,3) - this is seemed much nicer to play I got quite a few testplays before about this pattern (well, over one year ago). Current placement plays best as far as I see.
really minor, but how about moving the nodes on the left side a bit closer to right? currently looks like http://i.imgur.com/s2EhRB8.jpg ingame which seems a bit unfitting with your other shapes. something like http://i.imgur.com/QlQcpsH.jpg sure
00:40:701 (2) - snapping seems wrong, sounds more like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/FOoz0NNZ, but 1/2 should be okay for simplification For simplification. I'd like to avoid complex rhythms here.
hard
00:57:702 (5) - why does the 1/4 repeat start here already when the drumroll starts on 00:57:868 - ? oops, fixed
normal
00:15:286 (1,1) - recovery time is way too low here for normal, would delete the spinner or replace with a slider shortened to the redline before
00:37:535 (2) - can you overlap way less of this? bit edgy for a normal. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/us6oT6dd maybe fixed
00:48:202 (3) - ^ fixed I guess
00:51:368 (4,5,6) - wew lol. maybe at least something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/SnDjdiic to avoid that confusing back and forth stack? have found a good way to fix this
00:55:535 (1,2,3) - also seems really cluttered :/ fixed
also raised ar to 5.5
easy
how about inreasing cs a bit? 2 makes it feel so cluttered. 2.4-2.6 would probably make it nicer and still be easy I think 2 is not too bad though, you know, try to make it traditional
00:09:036 (2) - think it would be better to just space this normally to make rhythm easier to understand for beginners. could also adjust the slider a bit to get http://lasse.s-ul.eu/lW0AbOaH ok, but with cs2 keeped it's difficult to adjust the slider so um
01:15:535 (1) - shape could be a bit hard to read for easy with how much the head overlaps. maybe http://lasse.s-ul.eu/BVAAwhSk or http://lasse.s-ul.eu/KbEesDvH ? sure
01:19:535 (3,4,1) - really easy to misread cause slider leads 01:20:868 (1) - and not 01:20:535 (4) - and they are both close. something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/JzDqE5d3 would be much easier I feel those really new players can deal with this pattern. cuz they read maps via approach cirles only, without caring about sliders' shape
01:30:202 (3,4,1) - ^ um, I guess ^
00:55:868 (2,3,1) - maybe same problem as ^ just with circles/movement fixed
这就2years ago了，顿感时光飞逝。
https://puu.sh/uwrfi/ba8109fdf5.osu
mod1
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Ayaya
KaedekaShizuru wrote:
hi~ from Chinese Modding Queue
[Ayaya's Extra]
00:05:536 (3) - 虽然尾端锚点并不是严格意义上的出界 但我强烈建议不要这样摆 任何一个锚点都不要出界为好没问题吧，我看很多图都这样
00:41:535 (5,6,1,2) - 这里是六分拍注意done
jyu wrote:
[Ayaya's Extra]well fix
- 01:36:202 (1) - this one kinda touch the HP bar, so i suggest to lower it down a bit http://puu.sh/j6Owe/f31c0c3d6f.jpg
Lumael wrote:
[Ayaya's Extra]fix
- 01:09:035 - Remove unused green linefix
- 00:26:868 (1) - This slider is overlapping the HP bar
- 00:41:535 (5) - Samemaybe fix
- 00:55:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - LOL, nice, I think? i think that this can be an issue to rank because this is too sudden and probably the hardest jump of the songmusic is dudden too
- 00:32:202 (2) - Too close to the HP barmaybe fix
- 01:36:202 (1) - Overlapped by the HP bar
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Ayaya's Extra
- 00:55:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - Idk about this full screen star pattern...QATs dislike difficulty spikes and this pattern is pretty hard compared to the rest of the map, consider toning it down
[/quote]
Ayaya
- 01:18:868 (1) - Remove NCok
- 01:33:868 (2) - add NCdone
- 01:36:535 (2) - ^done
- 01:38:202 (2) - ^done!
[/quote]i'm fucking reaaally love your mod because you are careful in NC and i always fogot it,thanks.Frey wrote:
Ayaya's Extra - 看了一下，这个难度的综合难度并不适合适用Extra。只能说是Insane呃啊
- 00:16:702 (5) - 这个Normal-Clap相当突兀啊，取消或者使用Soft-hitclap吧done
- 00:50:202 (1,2,1,2) - 这个梗打起来很糟糕，不能改简单点？比如分别Ctrl+G 00:50:202 (1,1) - 之类，或者像最高难度一样done
- 那么多normal-hitfinish，我觉得会降低印象分，考虑一下降低那些normal-hitfinish的音量？
mod2
aya
same suggestion to silence sliderslides since it seems your hitsounding is different
00:16:869 - red/green line should have same volume/sampleset settings hereyou're right
00:25:535 (3) - I dont think the 1/16 snap is intentional here lol what
00:28:868 - 70% volume seems way too loud here imo. maybe ~50% ?well
00:40:702 (1,2) - snapping issue I think, see top diffwell
00:41:535 (5) - think it would be nice if this was a repeat for a better transition to the 1/3 rhythmfix
00:42:091 (2,1) - also this should really be reduced a bit since it's basically a 270 bpm 1/2 jump. maybe you could try something like http://i.imgur.com/qI0qJqk.jpg here?
i think it's not hard?
00:42:202 - love what you did with the guitar panning left/right in this part!thanks:3
00:50:202 (1,2,1,2) - with how you usually pattern your 1/4, rhythm becomes really hard to get here which makes it pretty frustrating to play. maybe you could do http://i.imgur.com/nlDTPpi.jpg ?fix
00:58:535 (2) - maybe you add another nc here? current always makes me expect 00:58:452 - to be a downbeat and makes it so easy to misread rhythm since you don't really utilize blue tick ncsfix
01:01:118 (2,2) - are these supposed to be stacked o:
can you reduce the finish spam in the kiai a bit? things like 01:06:202 (5,6,7,1) - really see a bit too much
01:31:868 (2,3) - minor, but would look so much nicer without the small overlap here lol
thanks for mod!!!
Monstrata wrote:
[Ayaya's Extra]
00:40:702 (1) - NC feels unnecessaryok
01:20:868 (1,1,1,1,1) - Could fix some stacks here.mmm i tried but how.
[quote="Lasse"]Speechless wrote:
[Ayaya's Extra]
00:26:285 - 绿线没用的done
aya
same suggestion to silence sliderslides since it seems your hitsounding is different
00:16:869 - red/green line should have same volume/sampleset settings hereyou're right
00:25:535 (3) - I dont think the 1/16 snap is intentional here lol what
00:28:868 - 70% volume seems way too loud here imo. maybe ~50% ?well
00:40:702 (1,2) - snapping issue I think, see top diffwell
00:41:535 (5) - think it would be nice if this was a repeat for a better transition to the 1/3 rhythmfix
00:42:091 (2,1) - also this should really be reduced a bit since it's basically a 270 bpm 1/2 jump. maybe you could try something like http://i.imgur.com/qI0qJqk.jpg here?
i think it's not hard?
00:42:202 - love what you did with the guitar panning left/right in this part!thanks:3
00:50:202 (1,2,1,2) - with how you usually pattern your 1/4, rhythm becomes really hard to get here which makes it pretty frustrating to play. maybe you could do http://i.imgur.com/nlDTPpi.jpg ?fix
00:58:535 (2) - maybe you add another nc here? current always makes me expect 00:58:452 - to be a downbeat and makes it so easy to misread rhythm since you don't really utilize blue tick ncsfix
01:01:118 (2,2) - are these supposed to be stacked o:
can you reduce the finish spam in the kiai a bit? things like 01:06:202 (5,6,7,1) - really see a bit too much
01:31:868 (2,3) - minor, but would look so much nicer without the small overlap here lol
thanks for mod!!!
https://puu.sh/uwrfi/ba8109fdf5.osu
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monstrata 
i couldn't see your puush picture xdd
Lasse all fixed
thank you for modding!
i couldn't see your puush picture xddLasse
all fixedthank you for modding!
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Artist:Ayumi.
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part2
could maybe silence normal sliderslide since spots like 00:56:702 (1) - on easy sound a bit weird
aya
video is missing
00:16:869 - timing lines here have different sampleset, make them both s or s:c1
for the huge 1/3 jump on 00:42:091 (8,1) - maybe you could move 8 a bit right at least, like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/pkAAMRXW ?
00:40:757 (1,2,1) - suddenly having a 1/6 triple here doesn't really seem like a good fix lol. think either having a "overmapped" 1/2 like the top diff to simplify, or a slider like meg did would work better
01:02:202 (1) - soft sampleset on sliderbody would sound better I think, since drum ticks sound weird here
z..
why is this suddenly ar 9.4 lol
9 was totally fine. this is way too high
normal
00:16:286 - now you still only have 600ms of break and also a really short spinner..
00:56:702 (1) - drum sampleset on sliderbody + tail seems unintantional looking how hard is hitsounded
easy
(from ranking criteria for eay difficulties)
00:13:536 (1) - this overlaps itself a lot // 00:38:202 (3) - here you even overlap head and tail
some others seem a bit edgy, but I think they should be alright
overall reading might be a bit harder than usual easy diffs, but I think it can still be acceptable
[]
should be all then
could maybe silence normal sliderslide since spots like 00:56:702 (1) - on easy sound a bit weird
aya
video is missing
00:16:869 - timing lines here have different sampleset, make them both s or s:c1
00:41:535 (5) - think it would be nice if this was a repeat for a better transition to the 1/3 rhythmfixbut it's still not a repeat? meant something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/9X4NkKSj
for the huge 1/3 jump on 00:42:091 (8,1) - maybe you could move 8 a bit right at least, like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/pkAAMRXW ?
00:40:757 (1,2,1) - suddenly having a 1/6 triple here doesn't really seem like a good fix lol. think either having a "overmapped" 1/2 like the top diff to simplify, or a slider like meg did would work better
01:02:202 (1) - soft sampleset on sliderbody would sound better I think, since drum ticks sound weird here
z..
why is this suddenly ar 9.4 lol
9 was totally fine. this is way too high
normal
00:16:286 - now you still only have 600ms of break and also a really short spinner..
00:56:702 (1) - drum sampleset on sliderbody + tail seems unintantional looking how hard is hitsounded
easy
(from ranking criteria for eay difficulties)
00:13:536 (1) - this overlaps itself a lot // 00:38:202 (3) - here you even overlap head and tail
some others seem a bit edgy, but I think they should be alright
overall reading might be a bit harder than usual easy diffs, but I think it can still be acceptable
[]
should be all then
but it's still not a repeat? meant something like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/9X4NkKSjLasse wrote:
part2
aya
video is missing
00:16:869 - timing lines here have different sampleset, make them both s or s:c100:41:535 (5) - think it would be nice if this was a repeat for a better transition to the 1/3 rhythmfix
for the huge 1/3 jump on 00:42:091 (8,1) - maybe you could move 8 a bit right at least, like http://lasse.s-ul.eu/pkAAMRXW ?
00:40:757 (1,2,1) - suddenly having a 1/6 triple here doesn't really seem like a good fix lol. think either having a "overmapped" 1/2 like the top diff to simplify, or a slider like meg did would work better
01:02:202 (1) - soft sampleset on sliderbody would sound better I think, since drum ticks sound weird here
may all fix
因为我没下视频的缘故，也或者是版本比较老还是什么的缘故，还请妹妹桑帮忙弄video了:3
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aya
00:41:063 (2,3,4) - why are these suddenly snapped to 1/12
they are 1/2 on all other diffs and were 1/2 here before too lol
00:41:063 (2,3,4) - why are these suddenly snapped to 1/12
they are 1/2 on all other diffs and were 1/2 here before too lol
Fushimi Rio
alright then
Lasse wrote:
alright then
Was just passing by, but may I bring up some questions regarding the top diff?
I like the idea/concept of the map, but sometimes the map seems to ignore details because of that structure.
* 00:09:536 (2,3) - Why are these 3/2 sliders? I mean, there is no sound getting all through until 00:10:286 - . The vocal just ends on around 00:09:786 - , and the flute just goes even further. Then you have 00:10:536 (3) - which kinda makes sense with the vocal but that's not consistent with what 00:09:536 (2) - is following and it ignores a clear beat of 00:11:036 - and ends on nothing.
* 00:51:035 - There's definitely ん sound on that spot, so extending the slider further doesn't make sense to me.
* 01:09:535 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are... why? I mean if 01:08:868 (1,2,3,4) - were jumps because they're strong vocals, using the same thing over only basic drums/tiny instruments again doesn't make sense. If you feel those basic drums that strong, you should have used constant 1/2 half-screen jump for the entire kiai.
* 01:12:535 (1) - Again this really just seems for the sake of the consistent patterns but musically I can't find anything that suits with continuing this over non-vocals. If 01:10:202 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - are used for the vocals, then 01:12:535 (1) - should be different because the music is different, isn't it? Same for 01:23:202 (1) - .
* 01:14:202 (1,2,3,4,5) - This makes even less sense than the previous jump thing imo, the music is not even intense but why do you have to use jumps here?
* 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - As I can clearly hear 01:15:285 (2) - has little to no sound. Maybe that can be used as a slider tail because it's just as similar as 01:15:118 - , but a full stream here? The strong drums are only on 01:15:202 - 01:15:368 - 01:15:452 - 01:15:535 - but this pattern (and the hitsound) invents a non-existing strong drum on 01:15:285 - . Same for 01:27:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
I like the idea/concept of the map, but sometimes the map seems to ignore details because of that structure.
* 00:09:536 (2,3) - Why are these 3/2 sliders? I mean, there is no sound getting all through until 00:10:286 - . The vocal just ends on around 00:09:786 - , and the flute just goes even further. Then you have 00:10:536 (3) - which kinda makes sense with the vocal but that's not consistent with what 00:09:536 (2) - is following and it ignores a clear beat of 00:11:036 - and ends on nothing.
* 00:51:035 - There's definitely ん sound on that spot, so extending the slider further doesn't make sense to me.
* 01:09:535 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are... why? I mean if 01:08:868 (1,2,3,4) - were jumps because they're strong vocals, using the same thing over only basic drums/tiny instruments again doesn't make sense. If you feel those basic drums that strong, you should have used constant 1/2 half-screen jump for the entire kiai.
* 01:12:535 (1) - Again this really just seems for the sake of the consistent patterns but musically I can't find anything that suits with continuing this over non-vocals. If 01:10:202 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - are used for the vocals, then 01:12:535 (1) - should be different because the music is different, isn't it? Same for 01:23:202 (1) - .
* 01:14:202 (1,2,3,4,5) - This makes even less sense than the previous jump thing imo, the music is not even intense but why do you have to use jumps here?
* 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - As I can clearly hear 01:15:285 (2) - has little to no sound. Maybe that can be used as a slider tail because it's just as similar as 01:15:118 - , but a full stream here? The strong drums are only on 01:15:202 - 01:15:368 - 01:15:452 - 01:15:535 - but this pattern (and the hitsound) invents a non-existing strong drum on 01:15:285 - . Same for 01:27:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
Fushimi Rio
Fia
Doyak wrote:
Was just passing by, but may I bring up some questions regarding the top diff?
I like the idea/concept of the map, but sometimes the map seems to ignore details because of that structure.
* 00:09:536 (2,3) - Why are these 3/2 sliders? I mean, there is no sound getting all through until 00:10:286 - . The vocal just ends on around 00:09:786 - , and the flute just goes even further. Then you have 00:10:536 (3) - which kinda makes sense with the vocal but that's not consistent with what 00:09:536 (2) - is following and it ignores a clear beat of 00:11:036 - and ends on nothing. I forgot to mute the sliderends... Considering the whole song arrange, these two vocals should be treated similarly to emphasize the latter sounds.
* 00:51:035 - There's definitely ん sound on that spot, so extending the slider further doesn't make sense to me.
but it is much weaker than vocals on sliderends of 00:50:202 (1,2) - . Using a sliderend here is still too strong.
* 01:09:535 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are... why? I mean if 01:08:868 (1,2,3,4) - were jumps because they're strong vocals, using the same thing over only basic drums/tiny instruments again doesn't make sense. If you feel those basic drums that strong, you should have used constant 1/2 half-screen jump for the entire kiai.
actually I was intended just to emphasize 01:09:535 (1,3) - , changed 34 to a slider to make this idea clearly.
* 01:12:535 (1) - Again this really just seems for the sake of the consistent patterns but musically I can't find anything that suits with continuing this over non-vocals. If 01:10:202 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - are used for the vocals, then 01:12:535 (1) - should be different because the music is different, isn't it? Same for 01:23:202 (1) - .
I don't really like following vocal rigidly... But if most ppl can't accept I don't mind to change to sth else.
* 01:14:202 (1,2,3,4,5) - This makes even less sense than the previous jump thing imo, the music is not even intense but why do you have to use jumps here?
I thought mid-jumps are easier than small spacing patterns after former jumps... Since the map is not easy at all, I don't need to insist on this imo.
* 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - As I can clearly hear 01:15:285 (2) - has little to no sound. Maybe that can be used as a slider tail because it's just as similar as 01:15:118 - , but a full stream here? The strong drums are only on 01:15:202 - 01:15:368 - 01:15:452 - 01:15:535 - but this pattern (and the hitsound) invents a non-existing strong drum on 01:15:285 - . Same for 01:27:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
Ok.
doyak didn't pop and his mod was properly replied to so I should be free to rebubble
it's also hp9 again now, but still seems playable enough to me
it's also hp9 again now, but still seems playable enough to me
normal
01:37:368 (3,4) - better to use less misleading placement. structurally it's similar to 01:36:535 (1,2) - so it could easily be mistaken as the same rhythm. placing 4 not underneath 3 = easy solution
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00:18:035 (5) - 01:30:035 (5) - could you use a rhythm more representative of the song's important sound here:( like nothing is indicating the red tick where this object starts is more important than the downbeat
AyayA
00:57:202 (1,2) - super weird when these are representing similar sounds to 00:55:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - yet spacing uses completely opposite ideas. like using larger spacing of any kind is more appropriate
pink
01:15:535 (1,2) - doesnt seem right to use this rhythm/spacing stuff when not supported by 1/4 vocals like 01:18:202 (1,2) - 01:04:868 (1,2) - . rhythm like 01:18:869 (1,2) - is more fitting (even tho it kills pattern zzz)
call me back!
01:37:368 (3,4) - better to use less misleading placement. structurally it's similar to 01:36:535 (1,2) - so it could easily be mistaken as the same rhythm. placing 4 not underneath 3 = easy solution
z82585296859647697485967485967485967489657485967485967489674859674
00:18:035 (5) - 01:30:035 (5) - could you use a rhythm more representative of the song's important sound here:( like nothing is indicating the red tick where this object starts is more important than the downbeat
AyayA
00:57:202 (1,2) - super weird when these are representing similar sounds to 00:55:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - yet spacing uses completely opposite ideas. like using larger spacing of any kind is more appropriate
pink
01:15:535 (1,2) - doesnt seem right to use this rhythm/spacing stuff when not supported by 1/4 vocals like 01:18:202 (1,2) - 01:04:868 (1,2) - . rhythm like 01:18:869 (1,2) - is more fitting (even tho it kills pattern zzz)
call me back!
I see what you did there :ppishifat wrote:
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Fia
Fushimi Rio
卧槽 你再仔细读一读 你他妈改多了吧PinkHeart wrote:
pishifat wrote:
pink
01:15:535 (1,2) - doesnt seem right to use this rhythm/spacing stuff when not supported by 1/4 vocals like 01:18:202 (1,2) - 01:04:868 (1,2) - . rhythm like 01:18:869 (1,2) - is more fitting (even tho it kills pattern zzz)
all fixed except 01:04:868 (1,2). I think the vocal still need some emphasis here.
Fixed my diff. z1 talked to me offline and he thought current rhythm was still fine.
pishifat wrote:
AyayA
00:57:202 (1,2) - super weird when these are representing similar sounds to 00:55:535 (1,2,3,4,5) - yet spacing uses completely opposite ideas. like using larger spacing of any kind is more appropriate change the shape of 00 : 55 : 535 (1,2,3,4,5)
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431,355,77368,1,6,0:0:0:0:
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241,371,84702,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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386,114,86202,5,14,0:0:0:0:
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264,376,86868,5,12,0:0:0:0:
249,289,87201,1,2,0:0:0:0:
141,114,87535,5,12,0:0:0:0:
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me too
great to finally see this qualified
om gyess
Seems like you might need to increase offset by +2-3ms or so
fun map!
fun map!
\o/
Offset is early by bout 15ms
confirming first offset is off by at least 15ms (I found it to be 20ms myself, but maybe do a middle way between them and put 17-18 ms)
Also, did anyone mention the dumb spinners on those two diffs that have them? They are clearly not following anything, because otherwise they would have ended at 01:44:202 - , where the crash's sound wave ends <.<
Also, did anyone mention the dumb spinners on those two diffs that have them? They are clearly not following anything, because otherwise they would have ended at 01:44:202 - , where the crash's sound wave ends <.<
yeah um
change your offsets and i'll requalify lol
change your offsets and i'll requalify lol
Fushimi Rio
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