2017-01-12 23:05 Minseo2000: hello, are you busy right now?
2017-01-12 23:25 Frim4503: no
2017-01-12 23:25 Frim4503: sorry for late reply
2017-01-12 23:25 Minseo2000: oh it's okay
2017-01-12 23:26 Minseo2000: well I messaged you since I was going to mod your map and you happened to be online
2017-01-12 23:27 Minseo2000: I was wondering if I could irc with you for a while for your mod request if you aren't too busy
2017-01-12 23:27 Frim4503: ok
2017-01-12 23:28 Frim4503: im fine with irc
2017-01-12 23:28 Minseo2000: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/977863 CINDERELLA PROJECT - Shine!! (you remix) [Sparkle!!]]
2017-01-12 23:28 Minseo2000: this one
2017-01-12 23:28 Frim4503: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/977863 CINDERELLA PROJECT - Shine!! (you remix) [Sparkle!!]]
2017-01-12 23:28 Minseo2000: yup
2017-01-12 23:29 Minseo2000: since you wanted help on SVs, I will center this mod on SVs
2017-01-12 23:29 Frim4503: ok
2017-01-12 23:30 Frim4503: just wirte it all
2017-01-12 23:30 Minseo2000: 00:22:046 - ~ 00:22:388 - the SV in this section can feel somewhat choppy due to the tiny 3x at the start of it
2017-01-12 23:30 Minseo2000: rather than a fast note falling down, it's more like a teleport note
2017-01-12 23:31 Minseo2000: though not very big, it is also a slight speedup of 1.03x
2017-01-12 23:31 Minseo2000: I recommend that you use a 1/4-based SV instead of a 1/8-based on for a smoother SV (does not really change readability)
2017-01-12 23:31 Minseo2000: one suggestion will be to
2017-01-12 23:32 Minseo2000: (while keeping similar values)
2017-01-12 23:32 Minseo2000: 00:22:046 - 2.5
2017-01-12 23:32 Minseo2000: 00:22:131 - 0.5
2017-01-12 23:32 Minseo2000: 00:22:388 - 1
2017-01-12 23:33 Frim4503: ok
2017-01-12 23:33 Frim4503: keep going
2017-01-12 23:33 Minseo2000: okay
2017-01-12 23:33 Minseo2000: 00:42:960 - ~ 00:44:331 - the SVs in this section can be quite hard to read due to the SVs being somewhat unpredictable
2017-01-12 23:34 Minseo2000: 00:43:646 - ~ 00:44:331 - these little changes have values seemingly random, thus very hard to predict accurately
2017-01-12 23:35 Minseo2000: instead of this, i suggest that you make a 0.5x, or 0.6x-based slowjam with stutters at 00:43:646 - ~ 00:44:331 -
2017-01-12 23:36 Minseo2000: one suggestion will be to
2017-01-12 23:36 Minseo2000: 00:42:960 - 0.5x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:43:646 - 0.49x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:43:731 - 0.01x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:43:817 - 0.49x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:43:903 - 0.01x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:43:988 - 0.49x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:44:074 - 0.01x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:44:160 - 0.49x
2017-01-12 23:37 Minseo2000: 00:44:246 - 0.01x
2017-01-12 23:39 Minseo2000: if you find that the scroll speed is too fast to see the effects of the stutter, you can try changing the SV values at 00:42:960 - 00:43:646 - 00:43:817 - 00:43:988 - 00:44:160 - by an equal amount (to ensure predictability)
2017-01-12 23:39 Frim4503: done
2017-01-12 23:40 Minseo2000: 00:56:331 - ~ 00:56:674 - something similar to the first SVs I pointed out
2017-01-12 23:42 Frim4503: if you can please give me a suggestion where i should add new sv
2017-01-12 23:42 Minseo2000: okay
2017-01-12 23:42 Minseo2000: 00:55:817 - ~ 00:56:331 - it might be nice if you add it here
2017-01-12 23:42 Minseo2000: 00:56:331 - since the sound here
2017-01-12 23:43 Minseo2000: is almost as intense as at 00:56:674 -
2017-01-12 23:43 Minseo2000: or you can simply start it at 00:55:988 -
2017-01-12 23:44 Minseo2000: a suggestion for 00:55:817 - ~ 00:56:331 - will be...
2017-01-12 23:45 Minseo2000: 00:55:817 - 1.25x
2017-01-12 23:45 Minseo2000: 00:56:160 - 0.5x
2017-01-12 23:45 Minseo2000: alternatively
2017-01-12 23:45 Minseo2000: you can have an SV spanning from 00:55:988 - ~ 00:56:331 -
2017-01-12 23:46 Minseo2000: a suggestion will be...
2017-01-12 23:46 Minseo2000: 00:55:988 - 3.01x
2017-01-12 23:46 Minseo2000: 00:56:074 - 0.33x
2017-01-12 23:47 Frim4503: seems good for me :}
2017-01-12 23:47 Minseo2000: o.o)b
2017-01-12 23:48 Minseo2000: 00:59:417 - ~ 01:00:617 - the SVs here are generally unreadable due to the slowjam it causes
2017-01-12 23:48 Frim4503: i have a plenty of ideas about the sv but idk the value
2017-01-12 23:48 Minseo2000: I recommend that you tweak some values to make the SVs equalize to 1x overall for better readability
2017-01-12 23:48 Minseo2000: one solution will be to...
2017-01-12 23:49 Minseo2000: change all 0.4x in the section to 0.8x
2017-01-12 23:49 Minseo2000: another solution will be to change all 1.2x to 1.8x
2017-01-12 23:49 Minseo2000: *1.6x
2017-01-12 23:50 Minseo2000: not 1.8x (oops typo)
2017-01-12 23:51 Frim4503: 1.6x right ?
2017-01-12 23:51 Minseo2000: yep
2017-01-12 23:51 Minseo2000: or if you want to use 1.8x
2017-01-12 23:51 Minseo2000: you have the change the 0.4x into 0.2x as well
2017-01-12 23:51 Minseo2000: one simple way of making readable SVs is to split a section into two, and make SVs that add up to 2
2017-01-12 23:52 Frim4503: it's getting complicated :/
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: so if a section spans from 00:59:417 - ~ 00:59:760 -
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: split it into two
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: so the middle is 00:59:588 -
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: put one SV at 00:59:417 -
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: and another at 00:59:588 -
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: and make sure that the two SVs add up to 2
2017-01-12 23:52 Minseo2000: that's the simplest form
2017-01-12 23:53 Minseo2000: 0.4 + 1.6 = 2, 0.2 + 1.8 = 2, 1.2 + 0.8 = 2
2017-01-12 23:55 Frim4503: done
2017-01-12 23:55 Minseo2000: oki
2017-01-12 23:55 Minseo2000: moving on
2017-01-12 23:56 Minseo2000: 01:06:103 - ~ 01:06:960 - since you did add SVs for most synth hit sections, you might want to add some here as well
2017-01-12 23:57 Minseo2000: do you wish to try it yourself with what I just told you, or just have me give you suggestions?
2017-01-12 23:58 Frim4503: your suggestion plz
2017-01-12 23:58 Minseo2000: okay
2017-01-12 23:58 Minseo2000: one suggestion will be...
2017-01-12 23:58 Minseo2000: 01:06:103 - 1.2x
2017-01-12 23:58 Minseo2000: 01:06:360 - 0.4x
2017-01-12 23:58 Minseo2000: 01:06:446 - 1.6x
2017-01-12 23:58 Minseo2000: 01:06:531 - 0.4x
2017-01-12 23:59 Minseo2000: 01:06:617 - ~ 01:06:960 - 1.6x and 0.4x repeat
2017-01-12 23:59 Minseo2000: (use 1/4 as the base unit)
2017-01-13 00:02 Frim4503: done
2017-01-13 00:04 Minseo2000: 01:37:817 - ~ 01:39:874 - i feel that the SVs in this section spans for way too long
2017-01-13 00:04 Minseo2000: 01:39:017 - ~ 01:39:874 - this part in particular has an SV over 2 measures long
2017-01-13 00:04 Minseo2000: most players will only start to notice the SVs at around 01:39:360 - here
2017-01-13 00:05 Frim4503: this just suggestion from my friend
2017-01-13 00:05 Minseo2000: I suggest that you simply keep the SV sections 1/1 or 3/2 long since any more seems redundant
2017-01-13 00:06 Minseo2000: e.g. 01:37:817 - 1x 01:37:988 - 1.2x 01:38:246 - 0.4x 01:38:331 - 1x 01:38:674 - 1.2x 01:38:931 - 0.4x 01:39:017 - 1x 01:39:531 - 1.2x 01:39:788 - 0.4x 01:39:874 - 1x
2017-01-13 00:06 Minseo2000: alternatively
2017-01-13 00:07 Minseo2000: 01:37:817 - 1.3x 01:38:160 - 0.4x 01:38:331 - 1x 01:38:503 - 1.3x 01:38:846 - 0.4x 01:39:017 - 1x 01:39:360 - 1.3x 01:39:703 - 0.4x 01:39:874 - 1x
2017-01-13 00:15 Minseo2000: ummm
2017-01-13 00:16 Frim4503: wait
2017-01-13 00:16 Frim4503: i miss 1 line xD
2017-01-13 00:16 Minseo2000:
2017-01-13 00:16 Minseo2000: well
2017-01-13 00:16 Minseo2000: it is getting pretty late at where i am, so i would like to stop my mod here for now
2017-01-13 00:17 Minseo2000: i will continue where i dropped off on another date
2017-01-13 00:17 Minseo2000: is that okay?
2017-01-13 00:17 Frim4503: ok
2017-01-13 00:17 Frim4503: just post this chat on thread
2017-01-13 00:17 Minseo2000: well
2017-01-13 00:18 Minseo2000: i will just post it together with the continued mod
2017-01-13 00:18 Minseo2000: is it okay if i return to this mod 22 hours later?
2017-01-13 00:18 Frim4503: thats ok
2017-01-13 00:18 Frim4503: yup
2017-01-13 00:18 Minseo2000: on a second thought
2017-01-13 00:19 Minseo2000: i'll just add you and i'll just poke you when i see you online
2017-01-13 00:19 Minseo2000: and i'll just poke you again 22 hours later if i can't find you
2017-01-13 00:19 Frim4503: ok
2017-01-13 00:19 Minseo2000: is that okay?
2017-01-13 00:19 Minseo2000: okay
2017-01-13 00:19 Minseo2000: then i'll see you again soon