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Hiromi Sato - Jiyuu no Hane

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I Must Decrease
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年6月8日 at 15:42:10

Artist: Hiromi Sato
Title: Jiyuu no Hane
Source: 月影のシミュラクル-解放の羽-
Tags: eroge visual novel dating sim game meis clauson xr kisses joker- doormat akitoshi corinn Nathan Kiss
BPM: 96
Filesize: 4064kb
Play Time: 01:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. A Feather (5.82 stars, 411 notes)
  2. Akitoshi's Normal (2.24 stars, 220 notes)
  3. Doormat's Insane (4.47 stars, 329 notes)
  4. Easy (1.47 stars, 125 notes)
  5. joker's Hard (3.3 stars, 263 notes)
  6. NK's Extra (5.33 stars, 375 notes)
Download: Hiromi Sato - Jiyuu no Hane
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EROGE fuck the makers of this game blocking foreign IPs from their website just cause im a gaijin doesnt mean i dont like anime girls and am out there to soil your business and pirate everything

smh
NightOwl2023
kill me now pls
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease
uhhhhhhhhhhhh

well
00:35:686 (3) - There is no note on this circle
00:40:686 (3) - There is no note on this circle

shes singing on those notes

the rest of the points... uhh... if it wasnt obvious it was my intention to map the sliders this way, they dont necessary need to be pointing to every note after them...

as for the "equally spaced jumps", i dont see why thats necessary, its just edgy mapping

GL with your future mods! :D
Eir_DELETED
plz update

remap
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 62170
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 76936,108030
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Jiyuu no Hane
TitleUnicode:自由の翅
Artist:Hiromi Sato
ArtistUnicode:佐藤ひろ美
Creator:Xexxar
Version:joker's Hard
Source:月影のシミュラクル-解放の羽
Tags:eroge visual novel dating sim game meis clauson xr
BeatmapID:1189269
BeatmapSetID:561640

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:2.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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169,20,76623,2,0,P|237:49|319:29,1,135,2|8,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
361,138,77092,2,0,L|354:205,1,67.5,0|0,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
464,174,77405,2,0,L|477:34,1,135,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
423,249,78030,6,0,B|430:358|430:358|382:330,1,135,4|2,0:0|3:2,0:0:0:0:
311,297,78498,1,2,3:2:0:0:
196,354,78655,2,0,P|190:319|196:264,1,67.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,181,78967,1,2,3:2:0:0:
317,211,79123,2,0,B|336:149|336:149|303:62,1,135,2|8,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
218,21,79592,2,0,P|190:35|142:39,1,67.5,2|0,3:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
186,143,79905,2,0,P|154:143|109:125,1,67.5,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,234,80217,2,0,P|56:220|24:185,1,67.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
26,304,80530,6,0,P|78:323|164:288,2,135,4|0|8,0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
234,248,81467,1,2,3:2:0:0:
185,151,81623,2,0,B|170:107|170:107|192:9,1,135,2|8,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,19,82092,2,0,L|284:87,1,67.5,0|0,3:3|3:3,0:0:0:0:
360,162,82405,1,8,3:2:0:0:
360,162,82561,1,0,3:2:0:0:
451,105,82717,1,8,3:2:0:0:
451,105,82873,1,0,3:2:0:0:
512,231,83030,6,0,L|376:247,2,135,4|0|8,0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
317,326,83967,1,0,3:0:0:0:
317,326,84123,1,2,3:2:0:0:
237,251,84280,2,0,P|222:206|239:117,1,135,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
310,42,84748,2,0,L|452:53,1,135,2|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,149,85217,1,2,0:0:0:0:
492,149,85373,1,2,0:0:0:0:
429,237,85530,6,0,B|367:257|299:215|299:215|260:228|227:262,1,202.5,2|0,3:2|3:3,0:0:0:0:
160,319,86155,2,0,L|150:178,1,135,10|12,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
205,91,86623,1,2,3:2:0:0:
300,143,86780,2,0,P|379:133|440:180,1,135,2|2,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
490,244,87248,1,2,2:0:0:0:
438,339,87405,1,10,2:0:0:0:
438,339,87561,1,8,0:0:0:0:
344,284,87717,1,8,0:0:0:0:
344,284,87873,1,8,0:0:0:0:
230,351,88030,6,0,P|183:321|106:325,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
26,349,88498,1,2,0:0:0:0:
8,243,88655,2,0,L|22:120,1,121.499996292114,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,88,89123,2,0,P|166:116|245:99,2,121.499996292114,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
183,21,89905,1,10,0:0:0:0:
264,197,90217,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,197,90530,6,0,L|397:190,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
481,181,90998,1,2,0:0:0:0:
456,288,91155,2,0,P|412:308|327:291,1,121.499996292114,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,268,91623,2,0,L|116:275,1,121.499996292114,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,221,92092,1,0,3:0:0:0:
44,221,92248,1,0,3:0:0:0:
125,143,92405,2,0,B|181:118|181:118|259:142,1,121.499996292114,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,302,93030,6,0,P|352:243|349:165,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
341,85,93498,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,23,93655,2,0,L|113:33,1,121.499996292114,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
142,128,94123,2,0,P|210:137|266:116,2,121.499996292114,2|8|0,0:0|2:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
49,95,94905,1,10,0:0:0:0:
135,268,95217,1,2,0:0:0:0:
259,120,95530,6,0,L|396:126,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,127,95998,1,2,2:0:0:0:
425,219,96155,2,0,P|358:252|304:246,1,121.499996292114,8|2,2:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
218,227,96623,2,0,P|157:226|105:256,1,121.499996292114,2|8,2:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
42,182,97092,2,0,B|29:147|29:147|50:54,1,121.499996292114,8|8,2:0|3:2,0:0:0:0:
235,14,97717,1,8,3:2:0:0:
235,14,97873,1,0,3:2:0:0:
286,97,98030,6,0,L|278:236,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,277,98498,1,2,0:0:0:0:
423,191,98655,2,0,L|415:58,1,121.499996292114,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
330,14,99123,2,0,P|271:5|209:36,2,121.499996292114,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
284,100,99905,1,10,0:0:0:0:
98,43,100217,1,2,0:0:0:0:
98,43,100530,6,0,L|107:173,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,263,100998,1,2,0:0:0:0:
208,331,101155,2,0,P|280:326|329:283,1,121.499996292114,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
381,224,101623,2,0,P|462:230|509:276,1,121.499996292114,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
418,316,102092,1,0,3:0:0:0:
418,316,102248,1,0,3:0:0:0:
381,224,102405,2,0,L|394:85,1,121.499996292114,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
206,44,103030,6,0,P|138:36|80:78,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
45,145,103498,1,2,0:0:0:0:
116,226,103655,2,0,L|237:210,1,121.499996292114,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,145,104123,2,0,P|324:87|311:20,2,121.499996292114,2|8|0,0:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
236,210,104905,1,10,0:0:0:0:
422,156,105217,1,2,0:0:0:0:
373,344,105530,6,0,L|367:207,1,121.499996292114,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,145,105998,2,0,P|253:113|171:138,1,121.499996292114,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,164,106467,1,2,0:0:0:0:
123,271,106623,2,0,B|133:365|133:365|164:331,1,121.499996292114,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,285,107092,2,0,P|266:296|298:296,1,60.7499981460572
332,210,107405,2,0,P|294:221|262:221,1,60.7499981460572
239,122,107717,1,8,3:2:0:0:
239,122,107873,1,0,3:0:0:0:
373,136,108030,5,6,3:2:0:0:
256,192,108186,12,0,117717,0:0:0:0:
Altuth
Easy

00:28:030 (6) - NC is here, because you NC here 00:33:030 (1) -
01:01:467 (2) - Personally this one should be a repeat slider instead of 01:02:092 (3) -

Akitoshi's Normal


01:00:530 (1,2,3,4) - Sound is the same on all 4 notes. Transitioning from a 2/4 slider into 2 circles into a 2/4 slider while the music is the same is confusing.
01:25:530 (1,2,3) - This feels too hectic compared to the rest of the song. Consider reworking this pattern.

joker's Hard

00:22:092 (5,6) - Can blanket better
00:23:030 (1,2) - Have these two on top of eachother.
00:52:717 (6,7) - Make these into a slider. Too hectic for a mediocre player to read the jump between 00:52:873 (7,1) - and 00:53:030 (1,2) -
00:53:030 (1,2) - These can blanket better.
00:56:155 (2,3) - These can also blanket better.
01:02:717 (6,7) - This is fine.

Enjoyed your creative sliders, really took the map further.

A Feather

00:07:405 (5,6) - Why cant these be the same slider when 00:04:905 (5,6) - is the same?
00:09:905 (3,4) - ^
00:17:405 (5,6) - ^
00:19:905 (5,6) - ^
01:29:905 (4,5) - This is the same as in the beginning. Make these two sliders reflect that. Make them the same.
01:32:405 (5,6) - ^
01:34:123 (1,2,4,5) - This pattern is fine.
01:39:905 (5,6) - Make them the same.
01:42:405 (5,6) - ^
01:44:905 (5,6) - ^

Overall, these changes would make the beginning and end feel connected, instead of the player needing to always read a new pattern when the same beats begin. The kiai time was well structured.
iYiyo
haihai m4m


  • [general]
  1. disable widescreen supp on every diff.
  2. hard insane and extra have 5hp which is.. idk it's not a progressive hp transition? Suggestion: Insane -> 5.5~6 ; Extra -> 6~6.5 nvm with hr is just too hard to spin xD
  3. I think going from AR 5 to AR 8 (normal->hard) is a bit too high. Consider reducing reduce ar on hard a bit.
  4. I don't know how this bpm stuff work but this song shouldn't have 192bpm? It's like totally not a 96bpm song.

    [A Feather]
  5. 00:05:217 - intended clap? you don't use it 00:07:717 - here and it doesn't seem to support the music imo
  6. 00:23:030 - why volume 90 here and then 00:27:405 - 60? Music is the same :d
  7. 00:35:530 - drum sampleset instead of additions?
  8. 00:50:530 - ^?
  9. 01:02:248 (2,3,4) - this triplet feels like it lacks of hitsounds D: try copying 01:02:248 (2) - this into 01:02:326 - here
  10. 01:27:248 (1,2,3) - I think this triplet should have similar hitsounds as ^

    [anxient's]
  11. call me when this is finished so I can mod it :o

    [joker's]
  12. 00:05:217 (6) - same as extra, remove clap for consistency... I think you copy hitsounds from extra so check them too i guess
  13. 00:17:405 (7,1) - Their heads are too close to each other. consider spacing them a bit so it's better structured as a whole.
  14. 01:47:405 - missing clap?
  15. 01:46:623 (4,5,6,7) - The spacing here feels a bit messy compared to the rest of the diff. try doing something like this? https://puu.sh/tPRQt/4e1c235863.png

    [akitoshi's]
  16. 00:31:780 - feels a bit empty to not have this with drum sampleset since you were adding them every white tick. Having 00:31:780 - & 00:32:092 - fit fine imo.
  17. 00:35:530 - drum sampleset instead of addition?

    [easy]
  18. 00:33:030 (1,2) - This distance is 1,27 which is a bit high compared to the 1.05~1.1 you were using on the whole diff. Consider reducing it a bit.
  19. 00:38:030 (1,2,3) - ^
  20. 01:36:467 (2,3,1) - imo the flow you use here it's a bit weird to follow since it's so linear, try doing some curves somewhere :d

Okay that's all from me, couldn't find much things xd However I pointed some hitsounds stuff that you might want to check and then copy to the other diffs (I think you copied them so ye) if you agree.

GL! :D
marcuddles
Kill me, I suppose.

[A Feather]
about the 99,999999999999999999999999% of the mod is made of personal suggestions
  • 00:04:748 (4) - Hey I'm an aesthetic fag, maybe overlap this object with the followpoint (coord:x:156 y:253)
    00:11:936 (2,3,4) - Flows really bad in my opinion, maybe move 00:12:092 (3) - in the centre (between 2 and 4) x:300 y:381
    00:22:092 (3) - ^. I noticed that you're following the strength of the sound, but it still flows badly imo.
    00:24:592 (6) - I'd move this a bit up to use the same spacing between 00:24:123 (4,5,6) -. The followpoint should be visible, basically. Coords: x:327 y:262
    00:25:842 (4) - You should put a 1/2 slider here, if you don't follow the vocal here it feels a bit weird imo.
    00:37:717 (2) - I don't really like the way you shaped this slider to be honest, maybe make it "normal" https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246299
    00:42:092 (1,1,1) - These NCs doesn't make sense at all, lol. 00:42:405 (1) - This one is okay but the other ones are useless
    00:44:592 (3) - Same thing I said for 00:37:717 (2) -
    You should put a 5% volume greenline on 00:50:139 -, to silence the sliderend
    01:03:264 - ^
    01:03:967 (5) - Would be much cooler if you stack this object with 01:03:030 (1) -. If you apply this, move 01:04:123 (6) - a bit backwards, to keep the same spacing
    01:05:764 -
    01:06:467 (5) - Stack with 01:05:373 (7) - fuck half overlaps
    01:08:264 - Silence w
    01:08:655 (4) - Maybe move it to x:236 y:219 (I'm being too much an aesthetics fag but ok, I mean that you should overlap the followpoint with 01:08:030 (1) -'s sliderhead centre) https://mark101.s-ul.eu/ecQVsMLE oppai-desu
    01:11:389 - S i l e n c e
    01:11:858 - ^
    Kapp i won't mention again to silence sliderends
    01:12:248 (1) - Since the new vocal section starts here, the NC should be here, not in 01:12:405 (1) -
    01:13:342 (2) - Oh no, please. Feels horrible. You should've done this in the first kiai too.. But please, remove this >///< feels really bad
    01:13:655 (4) - Make it "normal" as said before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246447
    01:14:436 (2) - ^
    01:15:842 (2) - >\\\\>
    01:17:092 (3,4) - This spacing is really low in comparison to the other ones, feels bad imo. Consider to change it. Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246492
    01:28:655 (3) - Make it "normal" (fucking kill me)
    01:31:623 (1) - ^ a
    01:32:405 (5) - Move it to x:211 y:175, so the followpoint won't overlap with 01:32:092 (3) -
    01:37:092 (3) - As said earlier, move it in the centre of 01:36:936 (2,4) -
    01:41:467 (4) - Centrate this between 01:40:998 (2,3,4) - x D
    01:42:405 (5) - Same of 01:32:405 (5) -
kapp

[Anxient's Insane]
finish your diff u fucc

  • 00:07:092 (1) - Remove NC, doesn't make sense imo, it would also be aesthetically better if you stack it with 00:06:155 (3) -'s sliderend
    00:14:905 (1) - Remove NC ^ Okay, it's fully rankable and everything but it doesn't really make sense to me
finish your diff u fucc

[joker's Hard]
  • 00:11:155 (3) - Use the same spacing that you used for 00:10:530 (1,2) - it should become like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246597
    00:17:405 (7) - ^
    00:21:155 (3) - ^w
    00:25:842 (2) - I just got cancer tbh -- Fixed it for you, still kinda "bad" because this shape isn't very good if done on very long sliders, but kapp: https://mark101.s-ul.eu/l3qhDxox
    00:43:655 (3) - same of 00:21:155 (3). Looks like you keep doing that, so I won't mention it anymore. Explain me that uwu
    00:50:373 (1) - Feels really weird. 00:50:373 (1) -'s first sliderend is on a strong beat, you shouldn't follow music like that. Put a circle on 00:50:373 (1) - and a slider on 00:50:530 - I'm pretty sure I didn't explain that properly, tell me if you don't understand so I'll try to explain better
    00:52:405 (5) - You should put an NC here, it's another section of the song
    01:06:155 (3) - Heh, I know I said I wouldn't mention this again, but the spacing is much bigger here, you should consider to reduce it. Maybe put 01:05:998 (2) - in the centre between 01:05:530 (1,3) -.
Didn't really find anything else, I'm not good at modding hard difficulties. gomenasai>///////<

Sorry if I'm not modding the Easy and Akitoshit's Normal. I seriously have to start mapping and modding Easy/Normal diffs properly fuckmylife
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wewlAd, idk why am here but cool song!

add gders to tags xd

[A very heavy object]

00:05:217 (6) - unintentional duplicated clap (i think, theres no snare in the music here)
00:10:217 (4) - same^
00:22:873 (2) - missing clap (i think, snare hits twice here)
01:00:217 (5) - this spacing is huge for what the music is atm, i would probably reduce it so you get a blanket on 00:59:592 (3) - slider end
01:07:717 (6) - maybe make this a copy of 01:07:405 (5) - since its part of the same word? would just be a nice a e s t h e t i c
01:17:717 (6) - same^
01:19:592 (3) - this flow is kinda awkward since it creates an instant 90 degree angle, all of your other linear sliders don't force an instant direction change so would prefer if this was rotated 90 degrees maybe?
01:37:092 (3,4) - maybe ctrl + g these on the timeline? atm the flow feels a bit forced and swapping these around would follow the general jump pattern you have in the map (where snares get more emphasis/spacing than the toms)
01:38:498 (2) - maybe increase spacing here because the piano is at a higher pitch and feels more intense here?
01:38:967 (4) - maybe reduce spacing here since the piano is less intense and at a lower pitch here?

[Easy]

Pretty nice, only minor things to say, not sure why you didn't put more emphasis in the intro/outro since thats the main part of the music that stands out to me and would also help bring the object density down a little

00:05:217 (3) - unintentional duplicated clap (i think, theres no snare in the music here)
00:10:217 (3) - same^
00:11:467 (2) - this type of flow coming out of 2 could be a little tricky because it goes backwards from where the slider is facing, i would make the slider curve slightly/aim a bit more towards 3 for more i n t u i t i v i t y
00:21:467 (2) - minor but ctrl + h for above + a e s t h e t i c s
00:26:155 (4,5) - fix parallels
00:28:655 (1,3) - because of the low ar, this appears before 00:28:655 (1) - finishes, and noob players are somewhat likely to just go straight to 3 because it's closer to them, i would suggest moving this further away from 00:28:655 (1) - to avoid potential confusion
00:32:405 (4,2) - this doesn't apply here, because 1 is closer to 4 than 3
00:33:655 (2,4) - but it does apply here, so same suggestion of moving 00:36:155 (4) - a bit further away from 00:33:655 (2) -
00:38:655 (2,4) - wew^
00:59:905 (3,1) - fix parallels
01:08:655 (2) - maybe turn this into red point slider? looks a bit weird imo as it is

gl!
_handholding

nice mod xd
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Mark101 wrote:

Kill me, I suppose.

[A Feather]
about the 99,999999999999999999999999% of the mod is made of personal suggestions
  • 00:04:748 (4) - Hey I'm an aesthetic fag, maybe overlap this object with the followpoint (coord:x:156 y:253) no its blanketing the slider
    00:11:936 (2,3,4) - Flows really bad in my opinion, maybe move 00:12:092 (3) - in the centre (between 2 and 4) x:300 y:381 this is intentional design
    00:22:092 (3) - ^. I noticed that you're following the strength of the sound, but it still flows badly imo. good
    00:24:592 (6) - I'd move this a bit up to use the same spacing between 00:24:123 (4,5,6) -. The followpoint should be visible, basically. Coords: x:327 y:262 its artsy
    00:25:842 (4) - You should put a 1/2 slider here, if you don't follow the vocal here it feels a bit weird imo. i dont think thats necessary
    00:37:717 (2) - I don't really like the way you shaped this slider to be honest, maybe make it "normal" https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246299 i dont understand, i dont want it to be perfectly vertical
    00:42:092 (1,1,1) - These NCs doesn't make sense at all, lol. 00:42:405 (1) - This one is okay but the other ones are useless this is intended to make it cleary that this is not a 1/4th stream, will consider changing though if people dont like it
    00:44:592 (3) - Same thing I said for 00:37:717 (2) - its for visuals with next slider
    You should put a 5% volume greenline on 00:50:139 -, to silence the sliderend if i must
    01:03:264 - ^
    01:03:967 (5) - Would be much cooler if you stack this object with 01:03:030 (1) -. If you apply this, move 01:04:123 (6) - a bit backwards, to keep the same spacing hurts the angle of jump on the next slider
    01:05:764 -
    01:06:467 (5) - Stack with 01:05:373 (7) - fuck half overlaps kills the pattern afterwards and is far enough out of the picture that it shouldnt be an issue
    01:08:264 - Silence w
    01:08:655 (4) - Maybe move it to x:236 y:219 (I'm being too much an aesthetics fag but ok, I mean that you should overlap the followpoint with 01:08:030 (1) -'s sliderhead centre) https://mark101.s-ul.eu/ecQVsMLE oppai-desu its blanketed to the edge corner of the red point on the slider
    01:11:389 - S i l e n c e
    01:11:858 - ^
    Kapp i won't mention again to silence sliderends
    01:12:248 (1) - Since the new vocal section starts here, the NC should be here, not in 01:12:405 (1) -
    01:13:342 (2) - Oh no, please. Feels horrible. You should've done this in the first kiai too.. But please, remove this >///< feels really bad
    01:13:655 (4) - Make it "normal" as said before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246447
    01:14:436 (2) - ^
    01:15:842 (2) - >\\\\>
    01:17:092 (3,4) - This spacing is really low in comparison to the other ones, feels bad imo. Consider to change it. Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246492 adjusted
    01:28:655 (3) - Make it "normal" (fucking kill me) fixed
    01:31:623 (1) - ^ a is fine
    01:32:405 (5) - Move it to x:211 y:175, so the followpoint won't overlap with 01:32:092 (3) - :\
    01:37:092 (3) - As said earlier, move it in the centre of 01:36:936 (2,4) -
    01:41:467 (4) - Centrate this between 01:40:998 (2,3,4) - x D its fine
    01:42:405 (5) - Same of 01:32:405 (5) -
kapp

iYiyo wrote:

haihai m4m


  • [general]
  1. disable widescreen supp on every diff.
  2. hard insane and extra have 5hp which is.. idk it's not a progressive hp transition? Suggestion: Insane -> 5.5~6 ; Extra -> 6~6.5 nvm with hr is just too hard to spin xD
  3. I think going from AR 5 to AR 8 (normal->hard) is a bit too high. Consider reducing reduce ar on hard a bit.
  4. I don't know how this bpm stuff work but this song shouldn't have 192bpm? It's like totally not a 96bpm song. blame okorin

    ya on rest basically

    [A Feather]
  5. 00:05:217 - intended clap? you don't use it 00:07:717 - here and it doesn't seem to support the music imo
  6. 00:23:030 - why volume 90 here and then 00:27:405 - 60? Music is the same :d
  7. 00:35:530 - drum sampleset instead of additions?
  8. 00:50:530 - ^?
  9. 01:02:248 (2,3,4) - this triplet feels like it lacks of hitsounds D: try copying 01:02:248 (2) - this into 01:02:326 - here
  10. 01:27:248 (1,2,3) - I think this triplet should have similar hitsounds as ^

    applied all

    [easy]
  11. 00:33:030 (1,2) - This distance is 1,27 which is a bit high compared to the 1.05~1.1 you were using on the whole diff. Consider reducing it a bit. maybe, im just trying to keep a visual pattern here though so idk...
  12. 00:38:030 (1,2,3) - ^
  13. 01:36:467 (2,3,1) - imo the flow you use here it's a bit weird to follow since it's so linear, try doing some curves somewhere :d eh i think its fine, no one cares about easys anyway hah ah h ahHAHAA

Okay that's all from me, couldn't find much things xd However I pointed some hitsounds stuff that you might want to check and then copy to the other diffs (I think you copied them so ye) if you agree.

GL! :D

Altuth wrote:

Easy

00:28:030 (6) - NC is here, because you NC here 00:33:030 (1) -
01:01:467 (2) - Personally this one should be a repeat slider instead of 01:02:092 (3) -
ya

A Feather

00:07:405 (5,6) - Why cant these be the same slider when 00:04:905 (5,6) - is the same?
00:09:905 (3,4) - ^
00:17:405 (5,6) - ^
00:19:905 (5,6) - ^
01:29:905 (4,5) - This is the same as in the beginning. Make these two sliders reflect that. Make them the same.
01:32:405 (5,6) - ^
01:34:123 (1,2,4,5) - This pattern is fine.
01:39:905 (5,6) - Make them the same.
01:42:405 (5,6) - ^
01:44:905 (5,6) - ^

REJECT ALL, nah i just dont think its necessary for the sliders to be the exact same in these patterns.

Overall, these changes would make the beginning and end feel connected, instead of the player needing to always read a new pattern when the same beats begin. The kiai time was well structured.

Log Off Now wrote:

wewlAd, idk why am here but cool song!

add gders to tags xd

[A very heavy object]

00:05:217 (6) - unintentional duplicated clap (i think, theres no snare in the music here)
00:10:217 (4) - same^
00:22:873 (2) - missing clap (i think, snare hits twice here)
01:00:217 (5) - this spacing is huge for what the music is atm, i would probably reduce it so you get a blanket on 00:59:592 (3) - slider end fixed
01:07:717 (6) - maybe make this a copy of 01:07:405 (5) - since its part of the same word? would just be a nice a e s t h e t i c
01:17:717 (6) - same^ nah, i think this is fine as is,
01:19:592 (3) - this flow is kinda awkward since it creates an instant 90 degree angle, all of your other linear sliders don't force an instant direction change so would prefer if this was rotated 90 degrees maybe?
01:37:092 (3,4) - maybe ctrl + g these on the timeline? atm the flow feels a bit forced and swapping these around would follow the general jump pattern you have in the map (where snares get more emphasis/spacing than the toms)
01:38:498 (2) - maybe increase spacing here because the piano is at a higher pitch and feels more intense here?
01:38:967 (4) - maybe reduce spacing here since the piano is less intense and at a lower pitch here?

applied most of it man im just tired of writing, message me if you have questions D:

[Easy]

Pretty nice, only minor things to say, not sure why you didn't put more emphasis in the intro/outro since thats the main part of the music that stands out to me and would also help bring the object density down a little

00:05:217 (3) - unintentional duplicated clap (i think, theres no snare in the music here)
00:10:217 (3) - same^
00:11:467 (2) - this type of flow coming out of 2 could be a little tricky because it goes backwards from where the slider is facing, i would make the slider curve slightly/aim a bit more towards 3 for more i n t u i t i v i t y im fuking out of space fam the nooblords who cant play this can suck it
00:21:467 (2) - minor but ctrl + h for above + a e s t h e t i c s already fixed
00:26:155 (4,5) - fix parallels
00:28:655 (1,3) - because of the low ar, this appears before 00:28:655 (1) - finishes, and noob players are somewhat likely to just go straight to 3 because it's closer to them, i would suggest moving this further away from 00:28:655 (1) - to avoid potential confusion
00:32:405 (4,2) - this doesn't apply here, because 1 is closer to 4 than 3
00:33:655 (2,4) - but it does apply here, so same suggestion of moving 00:36:155 (4) - a bit further away from 00:33:655 (2) -
00:38:655 (2,4) - wew^
00:59:905 (3,1) - fix parallels
01:08:655 (2) - maybe turn this into red point slider? looks a bit weird imo as it is

i dont really agree with the closer stuff, it should be ok and its a visual purpose, everything visual is fixed, wew

gl!
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edit: Changed quite a few things, HS, NC pattern etc
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Nao Tomori
[feather]
00:42:842 (3) - can u get rid of this it isnt in the song
if u want to keep the emphasis u can do this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7307445

01:14:874 (4,5,6,7) - these are too big imo cuz the other ones have loud drums and vocals and this one only has vocals

01:16:905 (2) - this ones too big as well theres like nothing on it lo

01:25:967 (2) - same

01:37:217 (4) - this is awkward af to have a wide angle into cuz its really quiet and not worth having that emphasis on. you could just make 3 into a slider instead.

01:29:874 (4) - the literal only red point slider nice

[kisses]

00:07:374 (5,6) - 00:17:374 (5,6) - holy moly can you make this into 2 1/2 slider please
it's really really obvious that that the end is stronger than the circle after it lol

00:42:061 (2,3,1) - this is the most awkward pattern to play in the history of osu standard can you just put a normal 1/3 quad please

00:47:842 (5) - this note appears to be ignored everywhere else so please delete it

01:11:592 (1) - doesn't need finish imo

i think there's some inconsistency in when you stack and dont stack in the part after the kiai, like at 01:28:936 (4,1) - vs 01:33:467 (2,3) - vs 01:36:436 (4,1) -
you then repeat it so it isn't technically inconsistent i guess but i think you should just do similar things for all of them instead

[anxient]
00:15:186 - missing clap?

00:24:092 (2,1) - ctrl g on this rhythm sounds better

00:29:092 - this is strong beat
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7307694 better rhythm imo.

00:30:655 - i also think this section is a bit too dense.

00:36:592 (1) - u did this stacked under the repeat last time at 00:26:592 -

00:47:764 (2,4) - what are these circles lmao
00:57:764 (3,5) - same
i get ur doing it for build up but i think you should change them to triples instead since doing a quint out of a slider makes the finger polarity really awkward.

01:25:499 (1) - weird to overmap into this one since it's pretty weak. at least the other ones have a new guitar chord but this one doesnt.

01:37:686 (3) - weird angle here, kinda uncomfortable to me.

01:47:686 (2,3) - also very awkward imo

[joker]
use of claps in intro is kind of inconsistent, 00:20:186 (6) - vs 00:15:186 (6) - vs 00:07:686 -

00:17:374 (7,1) - these two look really close together, can you space them out a bit?

00:19:092 (4,5) - this blanket looks kind of bad

00:43:467 (2) - 00:48:467 (2) - these sound overmapped, or not very major. better to leave these out imo. like here 00:55:967 -

01:08:467 (2,3) - can you space these same from 1 so it looks better

01:37:530 - weird to ignore this note, it's followed earlier with circles.

01:47:061 (5,6) - these are also very close together.

[akitoshi]
might be okay to use tick rate 2 to give the 1/1 sliders some feedback. since it's half bpm mapped.

ya

[easy]
tick rate 2 same thing

[other stuff]

all of the ending spinners are way too long, can you just end it earlier or take them out or something, they should be between 4 and 15k score or so and they currently go to between 30 and 55k
_handholding

Nao Tomori wrote:

[kisses]

00:07:374 (5,6) - 00:17:374 (5,6) - holy moly can you make this into 2 1/2 slider please
it's really really obvious that that the end is stronger than the circle after it lol I mapped each snare to be different to it's preceding note so I that's the logic behind the 1/1 slider

00:42:061 (2,3,1) - this is the most awkward pattern to play in the history of osu standard can you just put a normal 1/3 quad please My logic behind this is that it's an extra diff but ok

00:47:842 (5) - this note appears to be ignored everywhere else so please delete it IT'S MY STYLE!!! No but seriously I wanted it for the raw emphasis on 00:47:999 (1) which is mapped as a circle where the other notes on 00:47:999 are sliders plus I do think the current rhythm of 00:47:999 (1,2) follows the song really well and if I were to omit 00:47:842 (5) it would play and flow really weirdly . I also added this note and did something similar at 00:50:342 (5) . Honestly I kinda just wanna say it's my style (xd) since I do this kind of thing a lot, e.g. 00:27:842 (3,1)

01:11:592 (1) - doesn't need finish imo but a finish exists here in the other diffs as well and you didn't point it out in the other diffs

i think there's some inconsistency in when you stack and dont stack in the part after the kiai, like at 01:28:936 (4,1) - vs 01:33:467 (2,3) - vs 01:36:436 (4,1) -
you then repeat it so it isn't technically inconsistent i guess but i think you should just do similar things for all of them instead This is the same as the first part of the song, I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that. Basically I had a thought process for each stack but I cba to write a whole paragraph why tbh :V a tl;dr of it would be "for playability"
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Altuth wrote:

Easy

joker's Hard

00:22:092 (5,6) - Can blanket better
00:23:030 (1,2) - Have these two on top of eachother.
00:52:717 (6,7) - Make these into a slider. Too hectic for a mediocre player to read the jump between 00:52:873 (7,1) - and 00:53:030 (1,2) - i'd like to emphasize cymbal sound, keep
00:53:030 (1,2) - These can blanket better.
00:56:155 (2,3) - These can also blanket better.
01:02:717 (6,7) - This is fine. thanks :3

Enjoyed your creative sliders, really took the map further.

iYiyo wrote:

haihai m4m

[notice]

  • [joker's]
  1. 00:05:217 (6) - same as extra, remove clap for consistency... I think you copy hitsounds from extra so check them too i guess yeah, i didnt have time to check hitsound when i made my hard diff... I'll recheck later
  2. 00:17:405 (7,1) - Their heads are too close to each other. consider spacing them a bit so it's better structured as a whole.
  3. 01:47:405 - missing clap?
  4. 01:46:623 (4,5,6,7) - The spacing here feels a bit messy compared to the rest of the diff. try doing something like this? https://puu.sh/tPRQt/4e1c235863.png

Mark101 wrote:

Kill me, I suppose.

[joker's Hard]
  • 00:11:155 (3) - Use the same spacing that you used for 00:10:530 (1,2) - it should become like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7246597
    00:17:405 (7) - ^
    00:21:155 (3) - ^w
    00:25:842 (2) - I just got cancer tbh -- Fixed it for you, still kinda "bad" because this shape isn't very good if done on very long sliders, but kapp: https://mark101.s-ul.eu/l3qhDxox im following vocal
    00:43:655 (3) - same of 00:21:155 (3). Looks like you keep doing that, so I won't mention it anymore. Explain me that uwu
    00:50:373 (1) - Feels really weird. 00:50:373 (1) -'s first sliderend is on a strong beat, you shouldn't follow music like that. Put a circle on 00:50:373 (1) - and a slider on 00:50:530 - I'm pretty sure I didn't explain that properly, tell me if you don't understand so I'll try to explain better
    00:52:405 (5) - You should put an NC here, it's another section of the song i should put NC each 1 mesure
    01:06:155 (3) - Heh, I know I said I wouldn't mention this again, but the spacing is much bigger here, you should consider to reduce it. Maybe put 01:05:998 (2) - in the centre between 01:05:530 (1,3) -.
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Nao Tomori wrote:

[feather]
[joker]
use of claps in intro is kind of inconsistent, 00:20:186 (6) - vs 00:15:186 (6) - vs 00:07:686 -

00:17:374 (7,1) - these two look really close together, can you space them out a bit?

00:19:092 (4,5) - this blanket looks kind of bad

00:43:467 (2) - 00:48:467 (2) - these sound overmapped, or not very major. better to leave these out imo. like here 00:55:967 -

01:08:467 (2,3) - can you space these same from 1 so it looks better

01:37:530 - weird to ignore this note, it's followed earlier with circles.

01:47:061 (5,6) - these are also very close together.

[other stuff]

all of the ending spinners are way too long, can you just end it earlier or take them out or something, they should be between 4 and 15k score or so and they currently go to between 30 and 55k
no reply = fixed
thanks guys!
sry for late
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317,326,84123,1,2,3:2:0:0:
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Topic Starter
I Must Decrease

Nao Tomori wrote:

[feather]
00:42:842 (3) - can u get rid of this it isnt in the song k
if u want to keep the emphasis u can do this or something https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7307445

01:14:874 (4,5,6,7) - these are too big imo cuz the other ones have loud drums and vocals and this one only has vocals what other one, this is fine

01:16:905 (2) - this ones too big as well theres like nothing on it lo k mom

01:25:967 (2) - same i think this is fine cause its in the build up

01:37:217 (4) - this is awkward af to have a wide angle into cuz its really quiet and not worth having that emphasis on. you could just make 3 into a slider instead. i did this 3 other times why dont u complain for them lo

01:29:874 (4) - the literal only red point slider nice 00:07:374 (5) -



[easy]
tick rate 2 same thing sure

[other stuff]

all of the ending spinners are way too long, can you just end it earlier or take them out or something, they should be between 4 and 15k score or so and they currently go to between 30 and 55k maybe if i can find a good way to do this
Anxient

Nao Tomori wrote:

[anxient]
00:15:186 - missing clap? - i dont think so

00:24:092 (2,1) - ctrl g on this rhythm sounds better - not really? i wanna put emphasis in the bass 00:24:249 -

00:29:092 - this is strong beat - if i did that, i would be ignoring 00:29:249 - this. i dont plan on doing that ;x
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7307694 better rhythm imo.

00:30:655 - i also think this section is a bit too dense. - me too.

00:36:592 (1) - u did this stacked under the repeat last time at 00:26:592 - crap, youre right. fixed

00:47:764 (2,4) - what are these circles lmao - god
00:57:764 (3,5) - same - dammit
i get ur doing it for build up but i think you should change them to triples instead since doing a quint out of a slider makes the finger polarity really awkward. - made em all triples. im not crazy theres the beat D:

01:25:499 (1) - weird to overmap into this one since it's pretty weak. at least the other ones have a new guitar chord but this one doesnt. - yeah i know. removed

01:37:686 (3) - weird angle here, kinda uncomfortable to me. - tfw curve slider

01:47:686 (2,3) - also very awkward imo - fixed

all of the ending spinners are way too long, can you just end it earlier or take them out or something, they should be between 4 and 15k score or so and they currently go to between 30 and 55k - shrank mine by 1/1
thanks hubby http://puu.sh/u3Evw/2036a97329.osu
Nao Tomori
did stuff with 3/4 sliders and changed kisses diff to od8

also spinner length
Akitoshi
for the reply thingy, Xexxar fixed stuffs for me before the bubble. Thanks :)
_handholding
I keep confusing akitoshi with snownino
Nao Tomori
i keep confusing kisses with kisses
GENDER BENDER
tilt the map 5 degrees or i will tilt ecks dee
SnowNiNo_

Kisses wrote:

I keep confusing akitoshi with snownino
same
Akitoshi

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

Kisses wrote:

I keep confusing akitoshi with snownino
same
same
Linada

Akitoshi wrote:

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

same
same
same
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease
wtf happened to my thread
Seijiro
let's see...
My main concerns are probably on structure, since as it is now it feels to me that you guys just... went with the flow and that's it

General


  1. this is probably just me and it is not necessarily unrankable, but considering the song's genre (what is this? Something like a mixture of pop and rock? idk) and the songs general atmosphere Í believe that a girl sitting in a car is not that great.
    Idk the game this is from so I have no clue what pictures you can use of it (it's eroge after all), but I'm pretty sure there is a better BG somewhere to represent the song's energy.

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A Feather


  1. 00:04:092 (1,2) - minor, but should this NC be switched? There is a strong beat (and hitsound) on your 2, yet the combo starts on the weak beat on 1
  2. 00:06:905 (2,3) - this rhythm is pretty similar to before, so I don't see why this needs such low spacing between 00:06:592 (1,2) - . Maybe Ctrl G 2,3?
  3. 00:06:592 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since I'm here I might as well start picking on structure.
    From what I can tell, this pattern is representing a similar rhythm (if not identical) in the song to 00:04:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (but they are differently mapped, not rhythm, but aesthetics and consequently, structure).
    Now... if I take a look to this pattern from 10,000 feet and see this, what kind of references or meanings can I get from it?
    What I mean is that objects should be connected one to each other via some link, like forming a certain line or geometric figure. As far as I can analyze this, I can just see... this. Idk if there is any deeper meaning to it, but if it is not intuitive it's not a good thing imo (you don't have much time to think about a pattern in gameplay, so if it isn't recognizeable it will feel random no matter what reasoning you put into it).
    I'm obviously not saying to use geometry everywhere (that sucks if overdone anyway), but I'd like to see some general concept that all objects into a combo share. If you do that you'll still have structure without the need of making geometric stuff at all: I call that free-style or simply fluid structure, because connections are present, but not in a rigid manner as geometry would ask for.
  4. 00:06:436 (4,1) - it is rare to find this sort of flow, since you usually don't make jumps on sliders going the other way around.
    Few examples of what I mean: 00:03:467 (2,3) - 00:03:936 (4,1) - 00:04:717 (4,5) - 00:05:967 (2,3) - and so on.
    In this case, the slider body is clearly against the jump and this makes creates a weak emphasis imo. You could Ctrl G 1 and fix it a bit using just flow, but moving things around might work way better.
    Using this suggestion, here's also a practical example of how structure would improve the whole blue combo I mentioned above: link
  5. 00:12:374 (1,2,1,2) - probably personal, but it looks to me you considered this part of the song a bit differently than what the song plays.
    The reason I say this is because 00:12:374 - seems to be the most "open" sound. I translate this as "high pitch" for drum and by how this whole rhythm plays I get the feeling you'd have a descending scale from 00:12:374 - and one again the same emphasis from the start on 00:12:999 - (yeah, confusing stuff, sorry I can't explain it better than this).
    If I were to give a pitch vote, it would be like... 00:12:374 - 7 00:12:530 - 5 00:12:686 - 4 00:12:842 - 4 00:12:999 - 7, there fore something like this would work better to express the song (yeah, again geometric stuff, but it is easier for me to show it using this sort of stuff. Take just the general meaning of it, not the exact example I give you).
  6. 00:22:374 (1,2,1,2,1) - same ^
  7. 00:16:436 (4,1) - once again, that jump + slider body that contradicts most of the other similar jumps like that (and which is weak in emphasis)
  8. 00:02:999 - 00:22:999 - what I noticed about structure is that you also sort of ignore how this part of the song uses like... 2-3 kinds of rhythm, yet your patterns keep changing a lot (not that I can tell exactly what they are changing into tho, but whatever...)
  9. 00:25:811 (4,5) - not really the best transition fro one instrument to another, but I guess it is not a big deal anyway, so nvm
  10. 00:42:061 (1,1,1,1) - you probably don't need such combo-ing anyway. Spacing and the song's general atmosphere should make this readable
  11. the rest is just everything all over again. More specifically, structure keeps lacking here and there in every pattern.

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I was about to mod all of them, but it's literally the same stuff I mentioned for 00:06:592 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (with relative screen) on the highest diff.
I just want to add some little things tho:

Kisses: after I told you the style on Harumodoki was good it feels like you got carried away and didn't care as much about this map since I don't see the free structure you had on that at all

Anxient: maybe use less NCs (like 00:11:124 (1,1) - or 00:04:874 (1) - or 00:16:124 (1,1) - and so on). Once you reduce them you should be able to see more chances to structure the map better (the straight sliders style is cool as a concept, but don't place them "just because" please, because it is noticeable)

joker: apart from structure, keep an eye on forced flows, like 00:22:999 (1,2) - or 00:32:999 (1,2) - . Lower diffs should always strive for natural flows unless the song really demands a forced flow (and this almost never happens anyway)

Akitoshi: some rhythms felt a bit strange (01:03:467 - like skipping drum beats even tho you started on that, or 01:08:467 - skipping vocals for the same reasons). Structure can improve here as well, obviously.

Easy: 00:03:936 (2) - I would have made this start at 00:04:092 - instead, since that second drum beat seems stronger (just minor)



Anyway, if you want me to spend a few days making screens out of this mapset trying to explain what you guys tried to do (which, as far as I can tell, isn't that much anyway considering your patterns) I could, but I don't want to tbh.
I'm saying all this because I would expect more from experienced mappers like you (for sure Kisses, Akitoshi, Xexxar and Anxient have ranked maps, dunno about joker, but it doesn't change much my statement).
This sort of attempt could have been decent as a "first time trying to rank a map" imo, but not now, sorry.
Topic Starter
I Must Decrease
lol

MrSergio wrote:

let's see...
My main concerns are probably on structure, since as it is now it feels to me that you guys just... went with the flow and that's it

General


  1. this is probably just me and it is not necessarily unrankable, but considering the song's genre (what is this? Something like a mixture of pop and rock? idk) and the songs general atmosphere Í believe that a girl sitting in a car is not that great.
    Idk the game this is from so I have no clue what pictures you can use of it (it's eroge after all), but I'm pretty sure there is a better BG somewhere to represent the song's energy. its a high res cg from the game. I used this one as there were only 2 others available at this quality.

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A Feather


  1. 00:04:092 (1,2) - minor, but should this NC be switched? There is a strong beat (and hitsound) on your 2, yet the combo starts on the weak beat on 1 no, i wanted to accentuate the jump to 1, as this pattern was often stressed.
  2. 00:06:905 (2,3) - this rhythm is pretty similar to before, so I don't see why this needs such low spacing between 00:06:592 (1,2) - . Maybe Ctrl G 2,3? i wanted this flow direction, the spacing being low is a result of my structure which put 00:05:967 (2,3,2) - in a vertical line. If it wasnt already obvious, it was my objective to create a very linear map in that perspective, that used alot of horizontal and vertical lines.
  3. 00:06:592 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since I'm here I might as well start picking on structure.
    00:05:967 (2,3,2) - are in a vertical line and I wanted to center my structure around this. You'll notice that 00:06:436 (4,5) - are overlapped, 00:07:061 (3,4) - are evenly variable in distance from this vertical line that was formed with those objects. You'll also notice that each note in this pattern has a very specific and clean amount of follow points in between them. 1-2 there are 2, 2-3 4, 3-4 2, etc. I tend to be very careful to try to make my follow points clean visually.

  4. 00:06:436 (4,1) - it is rare to find this sort of flow, since you usually don't make jumps on sliders going the other way around.
    i do this intentionally at every instance of this sound the piano makes: 00:06:436 (4,1) - , 00:16:436 (4,1) - , 01:31:436 (4,1) - , 01:41:436 (4,1) - , given that there is consistency, i dont see how me intentionally doing this pattern to prompt a specific motion is an issue that needs being addressed or changed.

  5. 00:12:374 (1,2,1,2) - probably personal, but it looks to me you considered this part of the song a bit differently than what the song plays.
    im sorry what is your objective opinion that the song plays this in a specific way that must be followed? 00:12:530 (2,2) - are the same drum beat, they're weaker than the 1's, so i made them stacked, where as i gave 00:12:374 (1,1,1) - a triangle pattern for aesthetic. Let me remind you again that this is intended and consistent: 00:22:374 (1,2,1,2,1) - , 01:37:374 (1,2,1,2,1) - , 01:47:374 (1,2,1,2,1) -


    The reason I say this is because 00:12:374 - seems to be the most "open" sound. I translate this as "high pitch" for drum and by how this whole rhythm plays I get the feeling you'd have a descending scale from 00:12:374 - and one again the same emphasis from the start on 00:12:999 - (yeah, confusing stuff, sorry I can't explain it better than this).
    If I were to give a pitch vote, it would be like... 00:12:374 - 7 00:12:530 - 5 00:12:686 - 4 00:12:842 - 4 00:12:999 - 7, there fore something like this would work better to express the song (yeah, again geometric stuff, but it is easier for me to show it using this sort of stuff. Take just the general meaning of it, not the exact example I give you).
  6. 00:22:374 (1,2,1,2,1) - same ^ addressed
  7. 00:16:436 (4,1) - once again, that jump + slider body that contradicts most of the other similar jumps like that (and which is weak in emphasis) addressed
  8. 00:02:999 - 00:22:999 - what I noticed about structure is that you also sort of ignore how this part of the song uses like... 2-3 kinds of rhythm, yet your patterns keep changing a lot (not that I can tell exactly what they are changing into tho, but whatever...) i've pointed out some purposes of my structure
  9. 00:25:811 (4,5) - not really the best transition fro one instrument to another, but I guess it is not a big deal anyway, so nvm dont see why you pointed this out then
  10. 00:42:061 (1,1,1,1) - you probably don't need such combo-ing anyway. Spacing and the song's general atmosphere should make this readable i dont really agree, i think its very hard to read. if i can supply something that helps with sight reading this versus breaking there, I'd like to.
  11. the rest is just everything all over again. More specifically, structure keeps lacking here and there in every pattern. ok

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Anyway, if you want me to spend a few days making screens out of this mapset trying to explain what you guys tried to do (which, as far as I can tell, isn't that much anyway considering your patterns) I could, but I don't want to tbh.
I'm saying all this because I would expect more from experienced mappers like you (for sure Kisses, Akitoshi, Xexxar and Anxient have ranked maps, dunno about joker, but it doesn't change much my statement).
This sort of attempt could have been decent as a "first time trying to rank a map" imo, but not now, sorry.
I find it quite rude that you're calling this a decent attempt for a first time ranking a map. That's needless bashing.

You also state my structure is bad and give one example. Is it sufficient for me to explain that one example as to why there is structure and then I can proceed with ranking as normal?

(also im disappointed with how half ass this mod is as you only took the time to look at 25 seconds of one diff before deciding that it was personally unfit for ranking.)
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