1. Yoyo kagirinaku (5,84 stars, 1552 notes)

1. If you do have a bigger version of the BG consider adding it, you have a bit of room to work with Audio wise be carerful, the ranking criteria say you shouldn't exceed 192 kbps, yours is 320. But eh 320 is best anyways. But considering you wanted to keysound this, your map will likely exceed the 30 MB cap.
2. Combo colors are good

1. 03:15:789 - rotate all of the pairs by like 5-10 degrees counter-clockwise it looks a little better ^^
2. 01:28:746 (3,4,5,6) - so cruel I love it
3. 03:21:361 (1) - you should make this a repeat slider since seeing this rhythm change coming without knowing the song is pretty much impossible :p
4. 03:51:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - <3 the way you stacked 03:51:884 (7,1,1) - so good haha
5. 05:28:473 (4) - soft sampleset randomly lol

lazyboy007 wrote:

This map's so bad. I think you really need my help. It's like almost garbage tier. psch. git gud. Wooosh

JK nice map imma mod this thoroughly. :3 Good, or else...!!!

[General]

1. If you do have a bigger version of the BG consider adding it, you have a bit of room to work with Hm, I'll see what I can do.Audio wise be carerful, the ranking criteria say you shouldn't exceed 192 kbps, yours is 320. But eh 320 is best anyways. But considering you wanted to keysound this, your map will likely exceed the 30 MB cap. I'll probably change the quality when the time comes.
2. Combo colors are good

Thanks, gonna increase the saturation tho, since they are not perfect with the bg. Havn't done it yet bcs I'm lazy, not you.

[Mapping]

1. 03:15:789 - rotate all of the pairs by like 5-10 degrees counter-clockwise it looks a little better ^^ Kinda ruins the angle I tried to get 03:14:745 (4,1) - here. So I won't change.
2. 01:28:746 (3,4,5,6) - so cruel I love it I love it too, didnt see another way of doing it to fit the music as good as this.
3. 03:21:361 (1) - you should make this a repeat slider since seeing this rhythm change coming without knowing the song is pretty much impossible :p Fixed.
4. 03:51:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - <3 the way you stacked 03:51:884 (7,1,1) - so good haha Best pattern I ever made.
5. 05:28:473 (4) - soft sampleset randomly lol LOL FIXED.

Great map tbh, it's too polished for me to find anything worth correcting. Best of them luckzzz :3 Thankzzzz

_Yiiiii wrote:

Hi, from my queue

Yoyo kagirinaku
Stack Leniency=6 so this looks much better 01:33:361 (1,2) - Fixed

00:01:054 (1,2) - Make the distance smaller, no need to have a jump here.It's already small? and since it's sliders, and a very slow rythm, the spacing doesn't really matter too much at all.

00:11:669 (1) - Make it 1/2 earlier. Accomplishes nothing, it doesn't change the pattern for the better nor does it bring out the music any way. Starting the slider on the noteshift, or one beat before the noteshift are both accepted options. Which as stated above, are so similar that a change won't make any difference.

01:07:515 (1,2,3) - Use same DS Fixed

01:26:900 (1,3) - Blanket shouldn't touch. Fixed

01:28:951 (4,5,6) - This fast burst isn't detectable, in other word, it isn't friendly for playing, replace it with a repeating slider could make it better. Only need to do that for this burst, you can keep the others. I'll keep it as it is for now, but what you're saying is something I agree with. If I get more mods pointing out those 1/6's I'll change them into the way you suggested.

01:34:284 (1) - Try another slider shape, it should be different from these two 01:33:361 (1,2) - since the vocal changed. Redid the whole pattern, noticed that I had skipped a bass beat on the 2nd slider.

02:02:900 (1,2,3) - No overlap plz. Means I would have to remap a big chunk of that entire section just for the sake of the overlaps. When the end result is just that pattern being a bit more aestethically pleasing. For now I wont change it, but I'll keep it in mind.

02:44:438 (1,2,3) - ^ Remapped the entire section bcs the sliders looked fugly anyways.

02:05:054 (2,1) - So close. Fixed

03:38:576 (2,3,4,5,6) - You can try NC them all, cuz this shape it used for 1/6 stream but it isn't here. Fixed

Nothing else, good map!

Sharo- wrote:

m4m thing from ur queue

i like this map it plays really good so this is gonna be a kinda short mod because i couldnt see much wrong w it

first off, that dark brown combo color is hard to see with 100 bg dim, just a heads up Up'd the saturation and the luminosity.

00:05:669 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is hard to read/time right since theyre seemingly the same distance apart but it goes from 1/3 to 1/2 The spacing is fine since it basically doubles from 1-2-3 compared to 4-5-6. NC'd it for extra clarity though.

im not gonna point out every single one but the sliderends on these parts 00:17:669 (1,2,3) - 00:25:054 (1,2,3) - ect. , they should be lower volume, not silenced but a lower volume imo. dont have to change but a suggestion I'll do that when I eventually hitsound it, or force someone else to hitsound it for me

00:46:438 - starting here to 01:01:054 - lower volume since its quieter here, like make the first section 45, then next 55 then,,
01:15:823 - go back to 65 here Fixed some of it, but as stated above, will fix everything hitsound related when I have actually hitsounded the map to begin with.

01:28:746 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is hard to read with the 3rd note of the triples being a slider, just do a triple after They are a 5 hit drumroll in 1/6 xd so if i only map a triple afterwards then i skip out on one beat akak undermapping.

02:22:284 - 02:37:054 - 02:49:515 - same thing as before with the volume I'll fix laters

03:51:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - cool stream Ty

04:10:739 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - slider ends need lower volume here Laters


sry if u dont wanna change anything, i rly only pick out stuff that bothers me as a player. but maybe youll find this somewhat helpful! It's fine, you reminded me that I seriously need to be less lazy when it comes to hitsounding rofl, I hate doing it.

RevengeZ wrote:

You can actually end the beatmap here 06:12:011 - or here 06:12:473 - , adding a spinner at the end, but if you keep mapping after that it sounds pretty weird, like the intensity of the song isnt the same as the map. I contemplated doing this when I reached this exact spot when mapping. However I decided that instead of ending early and having a longers spinner, I'd rather map longer and have a shorter spinner. Everyone uses different amount of volumes too which means where a song should end when it fades is really subjective. I'll keep it in mind though if more people point it out.

1. 00:21:361 (1,2,3) - try to approach the two stacks near the slidertail, because it can be easier to the player to read + the spacing you use don't follow with the next note you use, for exemple, this note 00:21:592 (2) - has the same distance as this one and this one: 00:21:977 (5) - 00:22:131 (6) - but there is not the same rhythm lap. so at least move the 2, to keep consistancy with timing.
2. 00:23:977 (5,1) - those two notes are pretty close to the bottom of the grid, so move them a bit higher
3. 00:28:977 (2) - same as previously, but for this one, i think that it can lead to misunderstanding due to the number of objects, so change it if you want only.
4. 00:32:131 (3,4,1) - the jump between this note is a bit hard in my opinion, the sound doesn't allow so much big jumps, you can do a jump, but reduce the distance a bit i think, i see that on each 1/1 beats you got higher with the distance, i think that's a real creative thing, but in my opinion, this should get a bit reduce, because the part is not a kiai or also a very fast/intense part (for exemple you can use the same distance as you did on this part 00:38:900 (1,2,3,4,1) - in my opinion, it feels very good!)
5. 02:02:900 (1,2,3) - why not putting those notes in the middle of the grid so it can give a good symmetry?
6. 02:05:361 (3,1) - for me, there is a lack of flow here
7. 02:13:515 (3,4) - this part is also pretty close to the bottom of the grid, more specifically the number 4; because there is accuracy bar here
8. 02:13:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here, you did a triangular thing, and you reduced the distance between them, that's a great idea, but why not doing the other thing and increase distance between them on each 3 beats, i mean you can try to change the distance between them here 02:14:437 (4,5,6) - and make it higher than the spacing you use here 02:13:977 (1,2,3) - it will show the power of the intensification of the song here. (hope you will understand!)
9. 03:45:730 (3,1) - distance problem here? i mean why there is difference with distance here? one is x0.60 and the other on x1.30
10. 05:40:627 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - for this part, i would suggest you something that could be interesting as my point of view. i saw that you stacked notes here on some beats, and it's a very nice idea, but why not doing higher spacing between the note you stacked? i mean, you can try to up the distance between those notes: 05:40:319 (4,5) - / 05:40:781 (2,3) - / 05:41:242 (5,6) - /
11. okay, so that's all for me, all i said was just suggestion, because this map was really really really nice, i really liked it, and good luck for ranking, i'm sure you can do it, because this map have potential!

Pachiru wrote:

1. 00:21:361 (1,2,3) - try to approach the two stacks near the slidertail, because it can be easier to the player to read + the spacing you use don't follow with the next note you use, for exemple, this note 00:21:592 (2) - has the same distance as this one and this one: 00:21:977 (5) - It's consistently done like this troughout the entirety of the map so I don't find it to be a problem.00:22:131 (6) - but there is not the same rhythm lap. so at least move the 2, to keep consistancy with timing.It is the same rythm tho? Plain ol' 1/2's
2. 00:23:977 (5,1) - those two notes are pretty close to the bottom of the grid, so move them a bit higher Not outside the grid so it is fine.
3. 00:28:977 (2) - same as previously, but for this one, i think that it can lead to misunderstanding due to the number of objects, so change it if you want only. Still the consistency with the pattern and similar spacing. Only reason these are 1/6 kcik sliders is bcs the drums it now are very different from those before. So yes it's overmapping, but it was the only way to differentiate it from the rest
4. 00:32:131 (3,4,1) - the jump between this note is a bit hard in my opinion, the sound doesn't allow so much big jumps, you can do a jump, but reduce the distance a bit i think, i see that on each 1/1 beats you got higher with the distance, i think that's a real creative thing, but in my opinion, this should get a bit reduce, because the part is not a kiai or also a very fast/intense part (for exemple you can use the same distance as you did on this part 00:38:900 ](1,2,3,4,1) - in my opinion, it feels very good!) Fixed by remapping a bit.
5. 02:02:900 (1,2,3) - why not putting those notes in the middle of the grid so it can give a good symmetry? They are stacked ontop of previous notes :p
6. 02:05:361 (3,1) - for me, there is a lack of flow here All to themselves. But really though it is meant to break flow there due to the change in vocals.
7. 02:13:515 (3,4) - this part is also pretty close to the bottom of the grid, more specifically the number 4; because there is accuracy bar here Still inside the grid so should be fine.
8. 02:13:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here, you did a triangular thing, and you reduced the distance between them, that's a great idea, but why not doing the other thing and increase distance between them on each 3 beats, i mean you can try to change the distance between them here 02:14:437 (4,5,6) - and make it higher than the spacing you use here 02:13:977 (1,2,3) - it will show the power of the intensification of the song here. (hope you will understand!) Because the drums are going down and down and down. Sure, the first hit of every downshift is more intense than the rest, but I dont value that as much as showing the decrease in overall intensity.
9. 03:45:730 (3,1) - distance problem here? i mean why there is difference with distance here? one is x0.60 and the other on x1.30 Fixed
10. 05:40:627 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - for this part, i would suggest you something that could be interesting as my point of view. i saw that you stacked notes here on some beats, and it's a very nice idea, but why not doing higher spacing between the note you stacked? i mean, you can try to up the distance between those notes: 05:40:319 (4,5) - / 05:40:781 (2,3) - / 05:41:242 (5,6) - / Changed around some notes, but kept the stacks. The pattern got too compex and confusing with non stacked notes.
11. okay, so that's all for me, all i said was just suggestion, because this map was really really really nice, i really liked it, and good luck for ranking, i'm sure you can do it, because this map have potential!Thanks a lot! I'm doing my best to get the attention of BN's and modders so that I can finaly get it bubbled.

hope this mod will help you,It did!

GoldenWolf wrote:

irc modding on timing, mainly for these 03:21:361 - 03:37:500 - parts, also fixed the bpm and offset on 04:08:884 - this red line (wtf hystie?)

1. 05:37:704 (5,1) - i wonder why (5) has the huge jump than (1), while (1) has a downbeat there
2. 05:37:704 (5,1) - this kinda touches the hp bar
3. 04:58:165 - till the end - wow no hitsounds

lit120 wrote:

[babymetal]

1. 05:37:704 (5,1) - i wonder why (5) has the huge jump than (1), while (1) has a downbeat there the singles throughout the song mostly try to imitate how the guitar goes but i agree somewhat the spacing is a tad too big.
2. 05:37:704 (5,1) - this kinda touches the hp bar should be fine since skins customization is a thing so it's quite subjective.
3. 04:58:165 - till the end - wow no hitsounds havn't done them yet xd

not a lot, but oh well that's to be expected tho, thanks for what you pointed out!

from ur q btw I'll start on your mod soon

happy30 wrote:

00:07:102 (1,2,3) - I would remove the (2) and make a jump pattern here into the next slider. Fixed
00:42:025 (3,4,5,6) - this spacing would confuse me, I would stack or overlap the beats after the slider ends I personally feel like it plays fine and that the spacing/pattern is really reflective to the song itself. That kind of kickslider has already been introduced earlier in the map too. However, I'll keep it in mind and if I get more mods pointing out that this is an issue then I'll apply your recommendation as a solution.
00:52:640 (2) - I don't like how this is stacked, how about this? I don't really agree with how large the spacing is on your example, mainly due to the section focusing heavily on the vocals and there not being any vocal start on just that beat. The previous held note ends on it however, and to reflect it ending I want it to be close to the slider-end. I personally feel that it justifes a lower spacing, so fixed by a compromise meaning that it's not stacked anymore. Fixed

I feel the same for this one. 01:10:948 (2) - ^
01:19:255 (3) - I would stack this on (2) instead! Completely agree!
01:29:973 (3,1) - Pretty slider-breaking jump here Agree and dissagree at the same time. The spacing should be fine due to the pattern repeating the same rythm three times. So since 01:29:050 (3,1) - and 01:29:512 (3,1) - comes beforehand it should negate the sliderbreaking, hopefully. But if the jump you pointed out came out of nowhere then yes sliderbreaking would definitely be an issue.
01:51:871 (1,2,3) - no 0.25 spacing here? Wanted the chorus to be slightly more spaced than the previous parts regarding triples(this is consistent theme throughout all 3 of them). If this is a bigger issue than I take it as, then I'll fix it.It wasn't consistent, so fixed several places to keep it like it should be!
02:06:640 (1,2,3) - ^ ^


good goodddd!! thanks thaankssss!!

• [Yoyo kagirinaku]

1. 00:05:717 (1,2,1) - spacing shuldnt be the same here, since one is 3/4 gap and others are 1/2, use a different spacing to separate them would make player easily to read
2. 00:02:948 - i suggest to make the part the same as 00:08:486 - , since the sliderend idnt express anything rn
3. 00:30:948 (2,3) - slider shape is not rly good here
4. 01:15:794 - end the slider at here to have more impact at 01:15:871 (1) - since is a strong sound
5. 02:50:255 - make the spacing bigger, the spacing rn cant express the sound well
6. 03:13:717 (5) - inconsistent structure
7. 03:51:413 - this is rly too complex fr a calm part, using reverse slider or low spacing stream is just enough
8. 04:10:806 - lo mute the sliderend
9. 05:03:750 (1,3,1) - overlap look pretty bad here
10. 05:41:134 (4,7) - NC for emphasis
11. 06:04:673 - u should make the structure less and less complex to express the fading music, like start from 06:12:057 - u can just use a spinner to 06:19:442 -

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

ill just gives suggestin that u might want to consider :>

• [Yoyo kagirinaku]

1. 00:05:717 (1,2,1) - spacing shuldnt be the same here, since one is 3/4 gap and others are 1/2, use a different spacing to separate them would make player easily to read The 3/4 gap is bigger than the 1/2 gaps but NC'd for increased readability.
2. 00:02:948 - i suggest to make the part the same as 00:08:486 - , since the sliderend idnt express anything rn There's flams right there which is the most prominent sounds as of that place. They also prepare the player for what's to come since the map uses a lot of single 1/4 & 1/6 kicksliders. And to top it all of the intro of the song is an honor/tribute to GoldenWolf's style of mapping.
3. 00:30:948 (2,3) - slider shape is not rly good here Fixed by making the red anchors curve more
4. 01:15:794 - end the slider at here to have more impact at 01:15:871 (1) - since is a strong sound fixed
5. 02:50:255 - make the spacing bigger, the spacing rn cant express the sound well Don't think an increase in spacing will fix that due to the song not being that intense to being with at that moment. The pattern is revolved around the double and the triple with them being the focus of everything there. It's not by any means too easy to play due to the finger control required.
6. 03:13:717 (5) - inconsistent structure The change from a straight slider to a curved one is firstly to finish the rotational pattern, there is one spot left in it which the slider end of the straight slider fills. Secondly since the curved slider is starting on 03:14:025 - which is a downbeat, i wanted to break the flow and change the slider shape to emphasise that.
7. 03:51:413 - this is rly too complex fr a calm part, using reverse slider or low spacing stream is just enough Dissagree due to the complexity of the drumroll itself in the song, it stands out a lot. A big part of the map is also structured around rotational patterns, and I made this with that in mind.
8. 04:10:806 - lo mute the sliderend fixed
9. 05:03:750 (1,3,1) - overlap look pretty bad here fixed
10. 05:41:134 (4,7) - NC for emphasis fixed
11. 06:04:673 - u should make the structure less and less complex to express the fading music, like start from 06:12:057 - u can just use a spinner to 06:19:442 - I agree to some degree and that's why the kicksliders are stacked in the final moments of the song and the angles are easier and more repetetive. However I don't personally think that dumbing down the mapping due to the volume getting lower is a 100% good option. If i get more people pointing out that the outro could be done better then i'll change it to what you suggested

gl Thanks!

Kencho wrote:

Sorry for delay.

[General]

1. "BABYMETAL THE ONE" in tags is not necessary because Artist and Title have it already. So you can removed them. Fixed
   
2. Do you have any provided for metadata? Added "Meta data box in description.

[Yoyo kagirinaku]

1. Timing lines with the inconsistent setting (custom set number):
   00:00:187
   03:21:417
   03:25:574
   03:27:431
   03:31:561
   03:33:424
   03:37:585
   04:08:959
   04:10:814
   04:11:459
   04:12:087
   04:13:912 All fixed
   
   
2. 00:08:494 (1,2,3,1) - Avoid using too hugh spacing on 1/4 empty beat. Especially in the lower SV part. It would cause player miss their slider tail and hit a 100 on sliders. In other part like 00:17:725 (1,2,3) - 00:38:033 (1,2,3) - is fine. But 00:33:110 (3,1) - 00:39:879 (1,2,3,1) - is too far away. I suggest you make it closer and it would be better for playability. The reasoning behind the overly big spacing on 3/4 sliders in a section that is argueably pretty calm is that I want the player to know what will come later in the song. I don't want the extreme 3/4 slider spacing to be a punch to the face, so that's why they are there early. So that if they aren't satisfied with getting 100's or missing, they can restart without having to play for 4 minutes before getting back to the same spot.
   
3. 01:47:879 (4,5) - This jumps seems too far away, so make it closer? Fixed by moving around the order of the combo.
   
4. 02:11:571 (2,3,4,5,1) - This pattern not really well in flow. You may try to ctrl+G 02:11:725 (3,4) - or change another pattern. Fixed by ctrl+g
   
5. 02:57:263 (5) - I recommend you to stack this one on 02:57:110 (4) - because the previous pattern also stacked(02:56:187 (4,5) - ). Also 02:57:263 (5,1) - seems too far away, so stack 4,5 to make it consistent. The stacks are there to put emphasis on the two bass kicks that are on a 1/2 snap. Like 02:56:187 (4,5) - and 02:58:033 (3,4) - For the one you suggested there are only 1 bass kick 02:56:956 (3) - therefore I didn't stack.
   
6. 03:22:804 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern seems not necessary. So, I suggest you delete these circles and extend the slider to 2/3 beat. Also move them closer. It's there to overly emphasise the guitar and how complex the section is rythm-wise. However I did reduce the spacing.
   
7. 03:28:812 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
   
8. 05:17:604 (1) - Ctrl+G this may better for flow. Fixed
   
9. 05:24:988 (1) - ^ ^
   
10. 05:24:527 (3,4) - The spacing seems not really fit the song. Fixed
    
11. 05:32:065 (4,5,1) - 05:39:296 (3,4,5,1) - ^ Fixed
    
12. 06:12:065 - 06:19:758 - Just a suggestion, these objects can be deleted since the volume of the song was decreased at 06:12:065 - . So on you may start a spinner at 06:12:065 - I've got this suggestion before but I still personally think that continuing on at that point is perfectly fine. The song is still going on, so why not continue mapping it until the volume is so low it's barely hearable? All the hitsounds are also lowered according to the song, so it should be fine.

Looks clean structural map. Call me back when you are ready. Alright!

1. 05:56:350 - there are two different lines at the same point with different samplesets, which is unrankable
2. tickrate 2 doesn't make any sense for the 1/3 section, it would be better to go with tickrate 1 (althought i know you won't change this because the whole map is based on ticksounds which is also something i disagree with)
3. there are a lot of places where you abuse the slider leniency concept, stuff like 00:08:494 (1,2,3) - isn't acceptable, because it looks exactly like an 1/2 pattern (due to reduced sv). they're all around the map tho so i won't be pointing them all because it's tiring for you to read. i'll just mention the most noteworthy ones
   
   stuff

   04:22:219 (2,3,4) -
   01:53:725 (1,2,3) -
   04:38:835 (1,2,3) -
   04:13:912 (1,1) -
   04:15:758 (1,1) -
   05:21:296 (1,2,3) -
4. there are a lot of sliders that pass through important sounds. extending sliders is fine as long as they don't ignore significant sounds, which is the case for a large portion of the map
5. related to the point above, there are also tons of slidertails that lands on important sounds, (like this 01:03:725 (3) -) you should aim to make these beats clickable instead of relegating them to slidertails

1. 00:05:956 - it would work better as two circles instead, the slider starting on a blue tick isn't really expectable and also ignores the strong sound on 00:06:033 -
2. 00:08:494 (1,2,3) - i don't think this is acceptable, the low sv combined with such high spacing makes it really difficult to play, i get your idea of extending sliders because of guitar but the spacing is just exaggerated
3. 00:17:110 (2,3,4,5) - the spacing is so inconsistent compared to stuff like 00:24:494 (2,3,4,5) - despite they representing the same stuff in the music
4. 00:32:494 (1,2,3) - 00:39:879 (1,2,3) - apart from the fact that they're overspaced, i don't really get why is it so inconsistent compared with 00:25:110 (1,2,3) - . the 1/4 spacing concept isn't really clear here, sometimes you even double the distance despite the music being the same as previous]
5. 01:16:802 (1,2,3) - this is extremely inconsistent compared with 01:20:494 (1,2,3) - 01:24:187 (1,2,3) - 01:31:571 (1,2,3) - 01:35:263 (1,2,3) - in terms of feeling, i don't really get why
6. 01:46:340 (1,2,3) - compared to 01:53:725 (1,2,3) - "we are the one" they're exactly the same musically speaking, yet the way it feels and how the second one is super spaced for no reason doesn't really convince me
7. 02:14:956 (1) - this is kinda weird, i wouldn't recommend to use such a simple shape for this type of slider, it looks like stuff like 02:00:187 (1) - so people will probably break the combo here because of unexpected sv change
8. 02:22:340 - well this section is kinda the same as previous one, a lot of sliders ignoring important sounds and also the slider tick providing false feedback
9. 03:21:417 (1) - this kinda bugs me, why is (1) part of the same pattern, music has clearly changed so why don't do something visually similar?
10. 03:30:886 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - probably the hardest part in the whole map. it doesn't feel quite right, these beats aren't the same intensity, they all being clickable makes the rhythm very unintuitive. try to use some sliders on stronger beats and ending them on less intense beats
11. from 04:28:681 - there's nothing much more to explain, there are the same issues as before, inconsistencies between similar instances in the music, (04:33:296 (1,2,3) - compared to 04:48:065 (1,2,3) - the first one doesn't emphasize anything while the second one does) and lack of emphasis in many instances (this one 05:01:450 (3,4) - for example)
12. also the ending is kinda odd to play due to the fade out, but i guess there's nothing much to do about it xd

Kagetsu wrote:

[General]

1. 05:56:350 - there are two different lines at the same point with different samplesets, which is unrankableFixed
2. tickrate 2 doesn't make any sense for the 1/3 section, it would be better to go with tickrate 1 (althought i know you won't change this because the whole map is based on ticksounds which is also something i disagree with) Yea it's either scrapping a big concept of the map or keep it as it is. I don't find the tickrate to be that big of a problem tho so I'd rather keep it.
3. there are a lot of places where you abuse the slider leniency concept, stuff like 00:08:494 (1,2,3) - isn't acceptable, because it looks exactly like an 1/2 pattern (due to reduced sv). As stated earlier in the thread, this exact example is higher spacing just for the sole reasong of preparing the player for what's to come. I'd rather have them break here (8 seconds into the map), than 4 minutes into the map. However I can NC all of them to make it easier to spot.
   they're all around the map tho so i won't be pointing them all because it's tiring for you to read. i'll just mention the most noteworthy ones
   
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   04:22:219 (2,3,4) - NC'd for visibility
   01:53:725 (1,2,3) - Don't find it to be a problem becausethe a big theme of the map is rotational patterns, the spacing may vary even thought the music may be the same. But that's due to the limitation of patterns that could work with the theme and structure of the map.
   04:38:835 (1,2,3) - ^
   04:13:912 (1,1) - ^
   04:15:758 (1,1) - ^
   05:21:296 (1,2,3) -^
4. there are a lot of sliders that pass through important sounds. extending sliders is fine as long as they don't ignore significant sounds, which is the case for a large portion of the map
5. related to the point above, there are also tons of slidertails that lands on important sounds, (like this 01:03:725 (3) -) you should aim to make these beats clickable instead of relegating them to slidertailsIt's following the structure of the section by using smooth shaped sliders for vocals and straight/red anchors for piano. It's also starting on a strong beat of the piano.

[Yoyo kagirinaku]

1. 00:05:956 - it would work better as two circles instead, the slider starting on a blue tick isn't really expectable and also ignores the strong sound on 00:06:033 - Same reasoning as above, this type of slider is used a lot within the map, I want the player to know early what's about to come and how it's played, and also tbf a slider at the blue tick is easier to hit than a double starting at a blue tick.
2. 00:08:494 (1,2,3) - i don't think this is acceptable, the low sv combined with such high spacing makes it really difficult to play, i get your idea of extending sliders because of guitar but the spacing is just exaggerated Answered this earlier in the post, NC'd for visibility.
3. 00:17:110 (2,3,4,5) - the spacing is so inconsistent compared to stuff like 00:24:494 (2,3,4,5) - despite they representing the same stuff in the music Agreed, toned down the spacing on beat 3 and 5.
4. 00:32:494 (1,2,3) - 00:39:879 (1,2,3) - apart from the fact that they're overspaced, i don't really get why is it so inconsistent compared with 00:25:110 (1,2,3) - . the 1/4 spacing concept isn't really clear here, sometimes you even double the distance despite the music being the same as previous] Because 00:25:110 is in a section that is arguably much calmer even though the guitar is the same. Just listen to how the drums switch in intensity at 00:29:725 (1) - Did put the spacing of 00:39:879 (1,2,3) more in line with the previous one.
5. 01:16:802 (1,2,3) - this is extremely inconsistent compared with 01:20:494 (1,2,3) - 01:24:187 (1,2,3) - 01:31:571 (1,2,3) - 01:35:263 (1,2,3) - in terms of feeling, i don't really get why It's not tho? The first of the few strictly follows the difference in the vocals. The 3rd beat the vocalist lowers the pitch a lot. The others kinda "flow" together since the pitch is either steadily rising, or steadily decreasing. It's the same for the same section that comes later on in the map too. So it's consistent, since it happens twice in the map, and that's what I meant it to do.
6. 01:46:340 (1,2,3) - compared to 01:53:725 (1,2,3) - "we are the one" they're exactly the same musically speaking, yet the way it feels and how the second one is super spaced for no reason doesn't really convince me First one you pointed has lower spacing due to how much more "uncomfortable" it is to play. It requires more snapping between the slider end to slider head, while the others steadily flow into eachother, and to still emhpasize the lyrics I hightened the spacing.
7. 02:14:956 (1) - this is kinda weird, i wouldn't recommend to use such a simple shape for this type of slider, it looks like stuff like 02:00:187 (1) - so people will probably break the combo here because of unexpected sv change[color=#FF0000In my honest opinion I find this to be quite ridiculous. The song and the way the section is mapped is screaming for a lower spacing and lower SV. It's not sudden since it's been getting calmer and calmer, the spacing is getting lower and lower. I honestly don't see the problem with the SV at all. And the slider you gave as an example of being similar is just only that, similar. One is half a circle, the other one a full circle.[/color]
8. 02:22:340 - well this section is kinda the same as previous one, a lot of sliders ignoring important sounds and also the slider tick providing false feedback Same as last section, following vocals to 100%. So that's more thatn enough to justify sliders ending on a strong piano beat. And the hitsounding is basically adding my own "spice" to the section, if it's annoying I can just remove it lol.
9. 03:21:417 (1) - this kinda bugs me, why is (1) part of the same pattern, music has clearly changed so why don't do something visually similar?Because I didn't want the spacing to be too big due to the extreme rythm change. It used to be singles there instead, that were more spaced and differed fromt he previous pattern, but from player feedback it was too hard to quickly switch rythm. Therefore I decided to do something simple, by just keeping the same spacing, and same way of patterning from the previous pattern and then start from after that with something new. It's all for a playable point of view.
10. 03:30:886 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - probably the hardest part in the whole map. it doesn't feel quite right, these beats aren't the same intensity, they all being clickable makes the rhythm very unintuitive. try to use some sliders on stronger beats and ending them on less intense beatsThat would firstly break the concistency of the section, and secondly make no sense due to how the crashes are being used by the drummer. The spacing is emphasising the crashes. And since there were no crashes in the previous same same but differentn sounding places like 03:23:501 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 03:29:503 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the spacing is different. And this whole section is indeed the hardest part of the map SOLELY because of the rythm.
11. from 04:28:681 - there's nothing much more to explain, there are the same issues as before, inconsistencies between similar instances in the music, (04:33:296 (1,2,3) - compared to 04:48:065 (1,2,3) - the first one doesn't emphasize anything while the second one does) and lack of emphasis in many instances (this one 05:01:450 (3,4) - for example) Fixed 04:48:065 (1,2,3) - by ctrl+g beat 2 05:01:450 (3,4) Follows the structure of that section with stacked beats. It's also alot calmer than the chorus, so there's that too.
12. also the ending is kinda odd to play due to the fade out, but i guess there's nothing much to do about it xdI can shorten the map, but I genuinely don't see the point of that. Like why not map what's possible to map instead of half-assing it and ending earlier.

i don't think this is ready yet, the map might look cool, it uses a lot of cool patterns and the hitsounding is cool, yet it lacks of consistency and spacing emphasis concepts.Thanks I guess, I appreciate the mod, but I do think you went a bit too much into subjective things. The map got a set structure it follows for the sections, with different emphasis on different things. The way sliders are used and what shape and how it flows is all consistent throughout the map. Spacing was more or less what got hurt due to how it's mapped and I tink that's perfectly fine due to how everything else is cohesive and neat.

Kencho can rebubble this once you fix the bold thing if he feels like doing it. We'll see if i'll continue to push this forward.

glThanks

Kencho wrote:

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Rebubbled!