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sakuraburst - skyshifter vip [OsuMania]

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Evening
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, 28 February 2017 at 10:56:36 PM

Artist: sakuraburst
Title: skyshifter vip
Tags: deconstructing nature Kingdom Hearts II
BPM: 170
Filesize: 32344kb
Play Time: 05:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. us - 4Key (3.91 stars, 2084 notes)
Download: sakuraburst - skyshifter vip
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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standard set



And now
I cry for all that is broken



recommending to turn on effect volume


Details
Background was rendered in Cinema 4D and edited with Photoshop, original image here.

Soundcloud link

skyshifter vip is found in the following album, deconstructing nature

Found 【sakuraburst】through Shiirn's mapset, thought it'd be nice to map something different for a change.
The melody and samples revolve around Kingdom Hearts II just for your info.


Fine details of the SVs represent different elements of the track, every SV serves a sole purpose, this is not a note-oriented map, this is an SV-oriented map.


Sample Credits:
Cuckoo & The Nightingale Duet by Vonorabirds chirping 4 by IFartInUrGeneralDirectionYou don't know what you have done by DJMANGamezFour_Voices_Whispering_2 by geoneo0Breath 02 by The BaronThunder Strike 1 by Mike KoenigBackground Noise Sound by Caroline Ford as applause.mp3Most Hitsounds from LordRaika

Special thanks to these people for valuable feedback and testplays:
E x e-Kamikaze-BlockoRaymondFeerumApologies if I missed any
Raveille
kaboom
Kamikaze
Pressure


I've yet to play the chart, but I'll do it tomorrow prob. For now I'm gonna asses what I think could be changed/improved etc based on theoretical knowledge.

[us]
I'll be giving more of general suggestions for certain spots and things similar if stated so, so look for other similar things in the rest of the map when mentioned

00:38:746 (38746|0,38746|3) - Are you sure about those being 3/16 instead of 1/4?
01:35:216 (95216|2,95216|0,95216|3,95216|1) - Not sure about those 1/8 LNs, I personally think it's pretty cruel to put those after stutter SV since 1/8 is already really hard to time. I would suggest extending to 1/4 and maybe change the stutter a bit if you want to keep the visual effect of LNs being real short. Same suggestion applies to every other part like this (other example would be 03:05:569 (185569|2,185569|3,185569|0,185569|1) - not gonna list all of them tho)
03:09:452 - This is pretty much the hardest burst to time (it occurs twice unless I missed one) and I think that the stutter on it, while of course justified with the song, could be just toned down a little. So basically just lower the values so it's not a total pain in the ass to read, feels like a decent diff spike reading and timing wise while it doesn't really feel like it should be. Same for 05:30:628 -
04:18:981 - The pretty much same part of the song at 01:57:805 - also started on right hand and since the drops utilize symmetry between sections I think that this section could be mirrored (as in the same thing but starting on left hand instead of on right) to give it symmetry and not have almost the same thing again.

when you mod a nearly 6 min SV heavy map and only suggest 4 things xd
I wish I'd have so high levels of creativity man
Topic Starter
Evening

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Pressure


I've yet to play the chart, but I'll do it tomorrow prob. For now I'm gonna asses what I think could be changed/improved etc based on theoretical knowledge.

[us]
I'll be giving more of general suggestions for certain spots and things similar if stated so, so look for other similar things in the rest of the map when mentioned

00:38:746 (38746|0,38746|3) - Are you sure about those being 3/16 instead of 1/4? mapped this map with a randomness aspect in mind (the 2nd half is full of SVs that completely rely on random values/SV placements while maintaining the sightreadability for example, so this is one of the first random parts)

Was a bit reluctant to use random LN lengths so i tested them to make sure that they are 300g-able so i kept round 1/8 - 1/4


01:35:216 (95216|2,95216|0,95216|3,95216|1) - Not sure about those 1/8 LNs, I personally think it's pretty cruel to put those after stutter SV since 1/8 is already really hard to time. I would suggest extending to 1/4 and maybe change the stutter a bit if you want to keep the visual effect of LNs being real short. Same suggestion applies to every other part like this (other example would be 03:05:569 (185569|2,185569|3,185569|0,185569|1) - not gonna list all of them tho) yeaaa tested all of these LNs to be 300g-able, it's just that it's really easy to mess up the start of the LN, if you release as fast as you can, you should get a judgement similar to the initial hit

03:09:452 - This is pretty much the hardest burst to time (it occurs twice unless I missed one) and I think that the stutter on it, while of course justified with the song, could be just toned down a little. So basically just lower the values so it's not a total pain in the ass to read, feels like a decent diff spike reading and timing wise while it doesn't really feel like it should be. Same for 05:30:628 - Toned it down, the second one is adjusted to be harder than the first one however

04:18:981 - The pretty much same part of the song at 01:57:805 - also started on right hand and since the drops utilize symmetry between sections I think that this section could be mirrored (as in the same thing but starting on left hand instead of on right) to give it symmetry and not have almost the same thing again. mirrored that

when you mod a nearly 6 min SV heavy map and only suggest 4 things xd
I wish I'd have so high levels of creativity man
tank for moddo \ o/
Kamikaze
ok since nobody has modded this for 2 weeks since my first and only mod I assume that everyone is happy with it, so I'll just look at it again in icon context

I do hear (or rather barely hear xd) some pretty inaudible hitsounds in the calm not buildup parts, they are barely hearable and I would want you to raise the volume of those just to be safe. I'll point out some examples:
03:33:981 (213981|0,214158|1,214334|2,214511|0,214687|3) -
00:53:981 (53981|0) -
01:12:805 (72805|0,72981|1,73158|2,73334|0,73511|2) -

01:54:981 - 02:14:746 - Actually imo this jumptrill could be longer, since the buildup jumptrill is 5 measures long this could be at least a measure long and then turn into the single trill so you actually notice the jumptrill instead of there being just 4 jumps and trill, that doesn't feel like a proper gradient there

03:33:805 - not sure why those lag SVs are there actually, imo the song doesn't hint at there being lag worthy parts

files in folder:
74646__ifartinurgeneraldirection__birds-chirping-4 has about 35-50 ms delay (I know that it's a storyboard hitsound but still would cut for safety)
98388__the-baron__breath-02 has about 330 ms of blank space at the end
193811__geoneo0__four-voices-whispering-2 has 2,5s of blank space at the end and at least 130 ms of delay
269570__vonora__cuckoo-the-nightingale-duet has about 40 ms of delay
276469__djmangamez__you-don-t-know-what-you-have-done has about 300 ms of blank space at the end and 500 ms delay
LR_HiHat Normal - L has about 200 ms of blank space at the end
LR_HiHat Normal - R has about 200 ms of blank space at the end
LR_Snare Wet Echoing Hollow has about 2,5s of blank space at the end
LR4_BassKickReverbXD has XD it's title and that's really offensive
normal-hitclap ????????????????????????????
bg is cool
mp3 is sicknasty
good shit

gonna bubble after your reply prob so idk shoot some stars at it so it gets to 12
Topic Starter
Evening

-Kamikaze- wrote:

ok since nobody has modded this for 2 weeks since my first and only mod I assume that everyone is happy with it, so I'll just look at it again in icon context

I do hear (or rather barely hear xd) some pretty inaudible hitsounds in the calm not buildup parts, they are barely hearable and I would want you to raise the volume of those just to be safe. I'll point out some examples:
03:33:981 (213981|0,214158|1,214334|2,214511|0,214687|3) -
00:53:981 (53981|0) -
01:12:805 (72805|0,72981|1,73158|2,73334|0,73511|2) -

upped all of them, changed the section @ 03:36:628 (216628|2) - to be 20% volume as i think it's a bit too loud

01:54:981 - 02:14:746 - Actually imo this jumptrill could be longer, since the buildup jumptrill is 5 measures long this could be at least a measure long and then turn into the single trill so you actually notice the jumptrill instead of there being just 4 jumps and trill, that doesn't feel like a proper gradient there Elongated the JT and somewhat redid the section
The shift in the pattern is mapped to "yours and mine" (specifically ignoring "and")


03:33:805 - not sure why those lag SVs are there actually, imo the song doesn't hint at there being lag worthy parts Not sure which part but imma explain both anyways

Before the time stamp: It's mapped to the noise in the background with random SV placements
After the time stamp: It's mapped to the "shaking" in the white noise fading, the same sound can be heard @ 01:35:216 (95216|2) - & @ 03:05:569 (185569|2) - (This should be more obvious)

files in folder: my bad, forgot to check on these stuff lo l
74646__ifartinurgeneraldirection__birds-chirping-4 has about 35-50 ms delay (I know that it's a storyboard hitsound but still would cut for safety)
98388__the-baron__breath-02 has about 330 ms of blank space at the end
193811__geoneo0__four-voices-whispering-2 has 2,5s of blank space at the end and at least 130 ms of delay
269570__vonora__cuckoo-the-nightingale-duet has about 40 ms of delay
276469__djmangamez__you-don-t-know-what-you-have-done has about 300 ms of blank space at the end and 500 ms delay
LR_HiHat Normal - L has about 200 ms of blank space at the end
LR_HiHat Normal - R has about 200 ms of blank space at the end
LR_Snare Wet Echoing Hollow has about 2,5s of blank space at the end
LR4_BassKickReverbXD has XD it's title and that's really offensive
normal-hitclap ????????????????????????????

lol fixed everything, cropped some a bit less since there are still a bit of volume left in the .wav, just to make sure that the track doesn't cut too weirdly, forgot which i cut less soz, so i can't list them

bg is cool
mp3 is sicknasty
good shit

gonna bubble after your reply prob so idk shoot some stars at it so it gets to 12
gon dump some stars then

Additional Note: 03:11:216 (191216|1) - added one more note here to accommodate the BassKick Reverb
Updated
Kamikaze
yours


#1
Fubukicat
how ironical would it be for the 'qualif' icon to be given with a
'and mine' before
dionzz99
dude you can use Cinema4D?!


edit : https://www.freesound.org/people/The%20 ... nds/98388/ = LOL
Kamikaze
w h e n
Topic Starter
Evening

-Kamikaze- wrote:

w h e n
going flaccid
eyes
iiii pls rank it, osu mania needs more so cool extraordinary maps
G3nericUsername
I was going to (attempt to) mod this, until I realised, this map is perfect.
Topic Starter
Evening

G3nericUsername wrote:

I was going to (attempt to) mod this, until I realised, this map is perfect.

eyes wrote:

iiii pls rank it, osu mania needs more so cool extraordinary maps
\o/

i posted this to increase thread traffic
Shiirn
me like a lot
alexDaleITA
omg i can hear dearly beloved :cry:
Blocko
Sooooo when are you ranking this?
Topic Starter
Evening

Blocko wrote:

Sooooo when are you ranking this?
whenever someone wants to bubble/rank it
Blocko
Guess I'll give this one a try.

I'll most likely give a second bubble once you apply this mod. This screams 'ready' to me.
[us]
00:35:922 (35922|0,35922|1) - I'm thinking this one should be a single note instead of a chord since there doesn't seem to be a piano chord present there.

00:58:334 (58334|1,58393|0,58452|1) - You sure about these being 1/6? They sound a lot, lot, lot closer to 1/8.

01:18:275 (78275|2,78275|0) - This should be a single note since the piano segment here is very similar to 03:39:452 - .

01:32:569 (92569|2) - Sounds later than usual. Snap it up to 01:32:599 - on 1/12?

02:53:393 (173393|3,173481|2) - Sounds a looooot closer to 1/6 than 1/4.

02:53:922 (173922|3,173922|0,173922|2,173922|1) - Thinking you could turn these into a 1/8 LN chord, similar to the one you have on 05:15:099 - .

03:04:158 - Add one more note here for that kick.

03:33:805 - What's up with the stutter SVs here? Not really sure why those are there when there isn't really anything on that part to warrant the stuttering effect.

04:07:687 - Wondering why you didn't have the clap hitsounds there when you have them present on 01:46:511 - .

04:43:687 - This part made me wonder why I keep getting 200/100, but it turns out you have that set up to look like it plays on 1/2. Devilish.
Good god i can barely find anything to suggest

sum good stuff right there
Topic Starter
Evening

Blocko wrote:

Guess I'll give this one a try.

I'll most likely give a second bubble once you apply this mod. This screams 'ready' to me.
[us]
00:35:922 (35922|0,35922|1) - I'm thinking this one should be a single note instead of a chord since there doesn't seem to be a piano chord present there.

yea, confused a background sfx for a piano note there, removed 1

00:58:334 (58334|1,58393|0,58452|1) - You sure about these being 1/6? They sound a lot, lot, lot closer to 1/8.

didn't notice that being 1/8 before, tried changing it to 1/8 patterns but I can't really find anything that plays as I wanted to though
1) I want to keep the 1/3 jacks here, 1/4 feels a bit too fast so I ruled out using anchors on 1/8 (I really wanted anchors here as it fits the sound effect here pretty nicely
2) 1/4 -> 1/8 transition is kinda rough, besides, it feels more like a smoother transition from 1/4 -> 1/5 -> 1/6 and so on towards 1/8 here, feel that 1/6 is suitable as a transition
3) I made the 1/6 pattern a trill instead such that it fits the slowly increasing intensity of the sound effect here




01:18:275 (78275|2,78275|0) - This should be a single note since the piano segment here is very similar to 03:39:452 - .

pretty sure it's a chord (1 melody 1 bass), i changed the later one to a chord instead

01:32:569 (92569|2) - Sounds later than usual. Snap it up to 01:32:599 - on 1/12?

Snapped that

02:53:393 (173393|3,173481|2) - Sounds a looooot closer to 1/6 than 1/4.

Sounds 1/4 to me though, think it's because the producer decided to reverse the sound so that the "climax" of the sound is slightly later, I kinda wanna keep 1/4 here since it's consistent throughout the whole section here

I don't really hear the 1/6 on 02:53:511 -


02:53:922 (173922|3,173922|0,173922|2,173922|1) - Thinking you could turn these into a 1/8 LN chord, similar to the one you have on 05:15:099 - .

Tried it out here, sounds cool, added

03:04:158 - Add one more note here for that kick.

edded

03:33:805 - What's up with the stutter SVs here? Not really sure why those are there when there isn't really anything on that part to warrant the stuttering effect.

it has a similar sound effect as 03:05:569 (185569|3) - , but much softer

04:07:687 - Wondering why you didn't have the clap hitsounds there when you have them present on 01:46:511 - .

there's a really distorted soft clap on 1:46 while 4:07 doesn't, hence the different structure

04:43:687 - This part made me wonder why I keep getting 200/100, but it turns out you have that set up to look like it plays on 1/2. Devilish.

xd
Good god i can barely find anything to suggest

sum good stuff right there

thanks!
Blocko
One more thing before I do the thing

03:43:216 (223216|1) - Sounds a little early on my end. Putting that on 03:43:246 - with the same length as 01:22:069 (82069|1) - would be a good way to go.
Topic Starter
Evening

Blocko wrote:

One more thing before I do the thing

03:43:216 (223216|1) - Sounds a little early on my end. Putting that on 03:43:246 - with the same length as 01:22:069 (82069|1) - would be a good way to go.
yea good catch, it was early

I added some more notes for musical accuracy, hope you don't mind checking:

03:26:040 (206040|2,206062|1) -
03:28:841 (208841|1) - This was shifted down by 1/16 for offset accuracy (to clarify, it was originally 1/16 higher)
03:30:253 (210253|0,210275|1) - This might be on 1/32, not sure, i used 1/16 for simplification

all of these graces are stairing right not due to the fact that the later note is higher pitched, instead, because the whole section here is rather high pitched (lol)

I didn't use anything that graces with 2 hands as it's awkward to offset another hand 1/16 after the other

hopefully this is ok
Akasha-
count me in
I will do flame then
Topic Starter
Evening

Raymond wrote:

count me in
I will do flame then
holy fuck is it my BIRTHDAY

thanks a lot guys, means a FUCK TON* to me

*a ton is around 900kg
Blocko

Blocko wrote:

One more thing
Sorry, but I lied. I tend to recheck a lot and end up finding more things and asking about them when I'm very close to putting an icon on things '_>'

01:29:569 - Following what you said earlier about the melody and bass earlier, I'm thinking you could also turn this into a 2-note chord as well.
03:50:746 - Same here actually

05:10:863 (310863|1,310863|0,310863|2) - You could turn this into a quad since there's no note in 1/2 snap coming after it. Also for consistency with the other quads.

Evening wrote:

03:30:253 (210253|0,210275|1) - This might be on 1/32, not sure, i used 1/16 for simplification
Yeah, sounds like 1/32. The editor can't handle that snap though, but simplifying it like this should be fine.

Evening wrote:

holy fuck is it my BIRTHDAY

thanks a lot guys, means a FUCK TON* to me

*a ton is around 900kg

Evening wrote:

a ton (a fuck ton) (emphasis: ton)
Topic Starter
Evening

Blocko wrote:

Blocko wrote:

One more thing
Sorry, but I lied. I tend to recheck a lot and end up finding more things and asking about them when I'm very close to putting an icon on things '_>'

01:29:569 - Following what you said earlier about the melody and bass earlier, I'm thinking you could also turn this into a 2-note chord as well.

01:21:099 (81099|2) - Hope you don't mind that this isn't a chord, I couldn't find a way to make it elegant (no 1/2 jacks) and i wanted to emphasize the grace on the melody more

and I did what you suggested there


03:50:746 - Same here actually

and here

05:10:863 (310863|1,310863|0,310863|2) - You could turn this into a quad since there's no note in 1/2 snap coming after it. Also for consistency with the other quads.

oh yea good catch, added

Evening wrote:

03:30:253 (210253|0,210275|1) - This might be on 1/32, not sure, i used 1/16 for simplification
Yeah, sounds like 1/32. The editor can't handle that snap though, but simplifying it like this should be fine.

Evening wrote:

holy fuck is it my BIRTHDAY

thanks a lot guys, means a FUCK TON* to me

*a ton is around 900kg

Evening wrote:

a ton (a fuck ton) (emphasis: ton)
'_ '

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added 05:26:746 (326746|3,326746|0) - thunder wav sound to these notes to add more file size and rain to pair with the vocal on the end (yes it's meant to be really loud)
added applause.wav too, just for file size

and I don't mind mods that point out minor technical errors here and there, the perfection of the map is quite important to me
Blocko
and mine

#2

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Really love the way you mapped out the song with those SVs, man. Those storyboard hitsounds add a really nice touch to it, too.

Best of luck to you!
Akasha-
ok, i would like to irc more
I will catch you on weekend
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