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Whispered - Jikininki [Taiko]

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LZD
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on martes, 12 de septiembre de 2017 at 15:29:26

Artist: Whispered
Title: Jikininki
Tags: folk metal samurai raiden nwolf
BPM: 220
Filesize: 7730kb
Play Time: 04:59
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2,73 stars, 784 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (5,76 stars, 2432 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (3,48 stars, 1170 notes)
  4. Nwolf's Kantan (1,93 stars, 494 notes)
  5. Oni (4,38 stars, 1609 notes)
  6. Raiden's Oni (4,89 stars, 1613 notes)
Download: Whispered - Jikininki
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enjoy as much as i did mapping it~

21/2/2016 - new mp3
3/3/2016 - futsuu
5/3/2016 - raiden's oni
9/3/2016 - muzukashii
20/3/2016 - nwolf's kantan
8/7/2017 - added oni
Raiden
FIRST
Topic Starter
LZD

Raiden wrote:

SECOND
fixed for you :3
Nwolf
THIRD
Grimbow
FOURTH

Alrighty then, here we go.

d - Small don (red note)
D - Big don (red note with a finish)
k - Small kat (blue note)
K - Big kat (blue note with a finish)

Black means something that I think needs changed
Orange is just a suggestion
Blue is a comment


[Nwolf's Kantan]

01:22:760 (22,23,24) - Change this pattern to d k k, it follows the guitar riff a bit better this way

I like the way this plays!

[Futsuu]

02:45:669 (67,69) - Change these two to k's to follow the instrument pitch?
02:46:760 (70) - Change this to a k to follow the instrument pitch?
02:48:123 (74,75) - Change these two to k's to follow the instrument's pitch also?
02:52:214 (82) - Add a finish to this note since there is a loud crash on the cymbals
03:00:942 (98) - Add a finish to this note also for the same reason
03:04:214 (104) - Change this to a d, add a k at 03:04:419 - , and add another d at 03:04:964 - . This will make give this section some variation from the k k k k pattern you have and it follows the drums nicely too!
03:05:305 (108) - Add a finish to this note since there is a loud crash on the cymbals
03:35:851 (52) - Add a finish to this note since there is a loud crash on the cymbals and it is also a section change so it will give nice emphasis

(Will finish the rest of the mod later on tonight/tomorrow, something has come up and I need to go :( )
Chromoxx
FIFTH

Hi there from Chromoxx' dank MLG pro nonexistent modding queue. (M4M with Raiden)


MLG mod
[General]
Preview Point needs to be set
Uninherited Timing Points of the Inner Oni conflict with the other difficulties
Unsnapped Objects in the Inner Oni

[Nwolf's Kantan]
First impression when playing: The diff seems pretty consistent in general and fits well with the song, it's definitely on the harder side as kantans go, having quite a few spots with multiple 1/1 patterns in a row and even 1/1 5plets, which may be a bit hard at this BPM. When looking at the general star rating and object count spread i guess it fits in, the suggestions will still be geared towards tuning it down a bit here, as it would probably still fit in the spread when it's toned down just a little.

00:15:396 (2) - you can remove this, because this pattern has the same density in futsuu, and it might be easier for kantan players to start off this long map with easier patterns
00:19:760 (10) - ^
00:24:123 (19) - ^
00:28:487 (27) - ^
01:12:942 (3) - you can change this to k to emphasize the vocal here
01:14:305 (5) - maybe delete this note to add a bit of a break and not overload the kantan player with a 5plet at this bpm, or you can split the kkkkk k into kkk kkk
01:17:305 (12) - change to k to emphasize the vocal and the high instrumental sound here
01:18:669 (14) - same as 01:14:305 (5) -
01:21:123 (20) - you can change this to k to emphasize the vocal and add a bit of variety here
01:22:760 (22,23,24) - i'd change this to dkk since the guitar pitch goes up from 22 to 23
01:26:032 (29) - change to k to emphasize the vocal and high instrumental sound
01:33:123 (14) - delete this note to leave a 4/1 break before the 5plet, this part in general is relatively long without the 4/1 break anyway
01:33:942 (16) - i'd delete this tbh, i'm not too sure about using a 5plet at this bpm for the kantan
01:35:305 (20) - change this to k because of the high guitar sound and 01:35:851 (21) - to D because of the drum crash and low intense vocal
01:37:214 (23) - delete, 3 1/1 triplets in a row might be a bit too much
01:38:032 (25) - change to k because of the high guitar pitch
01:39:123 (28) - change to d, since the guitar pitch goes up and down again
01:41:851 (35) - delete this to leave a 4/1 break, this part goes on too long without one imo
01:42:669 (37,43) - i'd maybe delete these, since i'm not too sure about 5plets here
01:48:942 (2) - i'd change this to k since it's a higher pitch than the sound before
01:51:123 (3) - ^
01:57:123 (10) - i'd delete this, since the sound here is kinda in the background and it would be a bit more steady imo, maybe add these notes onto places like 01:54:942 - as a k, i think it would be more direct, since there is an instrumental sound here that the finishers are following and the other is just a background chorus noise. This is for the whole part if you decide to do it
02:42:942 (2) - delete this, since the kk after it would sound a lot better imo
02:53:851 (18) - delete this, to make it a bit less dense and give better emphasis on the d k d on the other parts
02:58:214 (25) - ^
03:30:942 (37) - delete, the constant 2/1 gets very monotone
03:37:487 (4) - ^
03:49:214 (5,14) - maybe delete, i'm not too sure about the 5plets again, they fit but they may be too hard
03:57:942 (23) - ^
04:03:396 (5) - ^ this one is kinda out of place anyway imo, since the emphasis should be on the red tick at 04:03:532 - but you're omitting that for difficulty reasons... i think you can move the next note there if you want or leave it where it is now, if you don't want the red tick note
04:08:032 (16) - delete to leave a 4/1 break
04:09:123 (19) - again maybe delete, same as with the other 5plets
04:12:123 (26) - same as 04:03:396 (5) -
04:17:578 (40) - same as the other 5plets
04:19:760 (46) - ^ in general an x xxx or xxx x pattern can add the needed emphasis tbh, for all the 5plets
04:23:851 (2) - i'd change this to K since it's a higher pitch than the note before
04:26:032 (3) - ^
04:49:214 (43) - maybe delete, i think this one is a bit better than the others tho, since it's near the end and at a very intense part of the song
Nice diff overall, i left a lot of suggestions on how to make it easier, so if you don't want to apply all of them i'd suggest you do at least some, since it really needs to be a bit easier imo, so i left you quite a few options to consider ^^

[Futsuu]
First impression when playing: The diff is also relatively consistent and fits well with the music, but there are quite a few places where there should be breaks. Some parts are mapped with very long consistent 1/1 without leaving even 2/1 breaks inbetween, so the mod in this diff will also be geared towards toning it down a slight bit, to also mesh better with the suggestions for the kantan.

01:03:942 (95) - you can probably delete this note, since it leaves a nice break in this relatively long pattern without 2/1 breaks and adds good emphasis on the next 2 notes where there are strong drum sounds
01:12:942 (121) - change to k to emphasize the vocal and the high instrumental sound here
01:17:305 (134) - ^ , you can also change this one 01:17:851 (135) - since it's high pitched too, that would make this part a bit less monotone and build up more suspense
01:21:123 (146,148) - you can change these to k to emphasize the higher vocal on 146 and the higher instrumental on 148, would also add more variety
01:26:032 (158) - change to k for emphasis on the instrumental
01:34:487 (4) - delete this or one of the notes in this pattern, since it's kinda long for a futsuu
01:38:851 (19) - you can delete this note to add a bit of a break before the triplet and 5plet
01:40:078 (26) - i'd also think about deleting this note, to make it a bit easier
01:43:214 (4) - same as 01:34:487 (4) -
01:45:942 (17,18) - delete these, otherwise this pattern gets far too long, 01:46:623 - you could add a note here for compensation
02:05:305 - starting here there is a 1/1 pattern, which is way too long. I'd suggest cutting it multiple times at places of your choice
02:19:760 (119) - i'd also delete this note, since 12 1/1 notes in a row are also a bit too much
02:40:214 - starting here i'd move slightly away from that consistent 2/1 rythm, since it gets monotonous very fast, maybe leave a break or 2 to keep it fresh
02:44:442 - 02:44:987 - add a k, would groove very well and fit the instrumentals
02:45:532 - add a d for the same reason
02:45:669 (67,69) - change to k since the pitch goes down and up again in this triplet
02:47:305 (72) - change to k because it's the highest sound in the triplet and it would add more variety
02:48:123 (74,75) - change to k since these sounds are higher than in the other 2 triplets
02:50:578 (79) - delete this note to leave a bit of a break and get away from the monotonous 2/1 rythm
for all the notes below this use the 1/3 tick before the red tick on the time stamps... i kinda messed up here xD
02:54:260 - add a k to keep things fresh and less monotone, it would also emphasize the next note very well (this would be 02:54:214 - and so on)
02:56:442 - ^
02:58:623 - ^
03:00:805 - ^
03:01:896 - ^ here as well because the music is escalating a bit in this part and it would keep things flowing forward
03:02:987 - ^
03:04:078 - ^
03:05:169 - ^
03:05:714 - ^ again, now before every note because it goes forwards again
03:06:260 - ^
03:06:805 - ^
03:07:351 - ^
03:11:714 - add k again, to keep things less monotone and emphasize the next note
03:13:351 - ^
03:13:896 - ^
03:14:987 - ^
03:16:078 - ^
03:17:169 - ^
03:18:260 - ^
03:48:396 (4) - change to k to emphasize the high instrumental
03:49:760 (8) - delete this to leave a bit of a break and shorten the pattern a bit
03:52:214 (16,17) - change to k to emphasize the high instrumentals
03:54:123 (21) - delete this to leave a bit of a break and shorten the pattern, since it's slightly too long
03:57:123 (30) - change to k to emphasize the high vocal
04:00:941 (40) - change to k to emphasize the high vocal and instrumental sound
04:09:396 (4) - delete this or any other note in this pattern to shorten it
04:13:760 (19) - delete this again, to shorten the pattern, which is too long
04:14:714 (24) - maybe delete this, i guess it could be ok tho
04:18:123 (4) - delete this to shorten the pattern
04:20:851 (17,18) - delete these to add a 2/1 break in here, the 3 triplets are a bit overkill for a futsuu imo, you can add a note 04:21:532 - here for compensation
04:28:214 - same as the start of the first kiai, do something about the monotonous 2/1 rythm
04:40:214 - the 1/1 + 1/2 pattern here is far too long, i would suggest shortening it multiple times
04:54:669 (87) - delete this note to shorten the pattern down to a reasonable size
04:57:669 - this end is a bit tricky but i guess it's fine to add a short harder pattern in at the end, might want to make it a bit easier though
All in all a good diff i'd say, i think i gave you plenty of suggestions to make it a bit easier, just choose the ones you like most. Also left some suggestions to make the slow part more interesting.

[Muzukashii]
First impression when playing: Again, this is mapped consistently and well to the music, but it is a bit too hard. There are many 1/2 and 1/2 + 1/4 patterns that are too long for a muzukashii, especially at this bpm, so i'll suggest some things where you can tone it down here.

00:23:442 (35) - i'd delete this note to make the pattern easier. I would suggest not using any 1/2 patterns longer than 9 notes anyway and using one like this right off the bat might be a bit over the top imo
00:40:896 (45) - delete this, the pattern is too long
00:49:623 (91) - ^
01:03:669 - this pattern is also too long imo, i'd find some way to shorten it up or or make it easier
01:08:032 - same as before, but this one is even longer ^^
01:11:851 - for this part i'd suggest doing the same d changes to k for pitch emphasis as i suggested in the futsuu
01:53:305 (60) - i'd suggest changing this to d since the pitch is lower than the k in the following triplets and it would add more variety
01:55:487 (72) - ^
01:56:987 (81) - delete this, since the pattern is too long imo
01:57:396 (84,85,86) - change to kkd to because the last note is a lower pitch than the k in the following triplets
01:59:851 (98) - change to d for the same reason as above
for the triplets above this, you might even change them to kkd to be distinguishable from the next part, which is different
02:01:351 (107) - delete for the same reason as before
02:02:032 (112) - change to d for the same reason as above
02:04:214 (124) - ^
02:05:714 (133) - delete again
02:06:396 - for this part you went for the 1/1 beat for buildup but i would suggest adding a couple 1/2 triplets inbetween so that it doesn't get stale
02:11:305 - this is way too long, add breaks in here pls
02:15:669 - ^
02:18:396 - ^
02:52:214 - for this part i would suggest the same as in the futsuu to make it more interesting, maybe even with a few more notes (or reduce the ammount of notes added in the futsuu)
03:08:760 (142) - delete this to shorten up the pattern a bit and make it simpler
03:46:760 - for these parts i'd suggest maybe making some 1/1 triplets inbetween to keep it less stale (for instance adding a note at 03:47:578 - ), do this for the other similar parts too
04:28:214 - the same as i suggested in the first kiai here (including changes to d, pattern cuts etc.)
04:58:351 (12) - delete this note to shorten the pattern
04:58:351 (12,18) - ^
I guess i gave enough points that can be changed here, i hope you take these into consideration ^^.

[Raiden's Oni]
First impression when playing: I really enjoyed this, it's mapped very well to the music and the patterns play well. It may well be one of your best maps, Raiden. The only thing that kind of disturbed me was the high SV part where finishers came flying at you, i think it's ok in a way but there are a lot more interesting things that you could do here, especially the second part like that was kinda overdone with the finishers imo, i'd suggest changing that up a bit and i'll make a few suggestions to that in the mod. I don't think i'll have much more to add other than that, since the map seemed really good over all! :D

01:53:305 - ok for this part i would suggest toning down the SV a bit and adding 2 1/2 buildup notes for every finisher, maybe even more connecting notes for the last half of this SV part, i think the finishers with the SV are kind of a cool idea, but it feels like something is missing, so maybe tone it down a bit and add the notes inbetween as i suggested ^^
04:28:282 - again, here i'd suggest toning down the SV a bit and making 1/2 triplets by adding notes between the finishers, this would fill out the song a bit more and feel less empty.
All in all this is a really good map, i might have mapped some stuff differently, but i like how you did it and don't really see it as neccesary to change anything else other than the parts i pointed out. Nice one Raiden ;)

[Inner Oni]
First impression when playing: I had a lot of fun playing this and the patterning seems consistent through the map, but those really long stamina streams in the kiai are really overdone imo. Yes, there is a consistent drumline there, but there are other things you can use it for, which would make the map more interesting and fun than it already is ^^. There might also be a few suggestions to make some of the other streams play better.

Change HP to 6. 7 is a bit harsh for the difficulty of the map.
01:08:851 (214,215,216,217,218,219) - i'd ask you to consider changing this up, i mean it fits i guess and this is mainly based on personal preference but xxxooo patterns have a problem with giving right emphasis imo. Since there is a color change on a blue tick, but no color change on the red/white tick the blue tick will recieve more emphasis from such a pattern, making things feel really weird. That's why i would suggest changing 01:09:124 (218) - to k, as it plays smoother, sounds smoother and the k also emphasizes the sound on that white tick very well.
01:11:851 - i'd suggest mapping a bit to the vocals in these parts as it would help build up tension and make things less stale, this suggestion goes for all these parts throughout the map.
01:55:487 (63) - i'd suggest changing these notes to d, similar as in the muzukashii as they are lower pitch than the other k sounds here, this goes for all of them again, if you accepted what i suggested in the muzu
02:00:669 - I don't really agree with these streams, even though there is a consistent 1/4 drumline here. i think you could make things a lot more interesting if you made some shorter streams that were maybe a bit more pattern intensive or something like that. It's ok to keep some long monostreams, but having them go on for so long is a bit over the top in my opinion. The same goes for the last kiai, although you can probably keep those a bit longer than in the first (as you already did, but shorter than that please)
02:37:419 (21) - i don't really see any reason to have this color change on a blue tick here, ctrl G this 02:37:419 (21,22) - and it will sound a lot cleaner imo
I don't have much more to suggest, since i agree with your mapping for the most part, just please consider toning down those streams in the kiai a bit, since they are overkill imo.

[Conclusion]
Nice set in general and really nice song. I hope to see this ranked in the near future.
Props to everyone for making a full spread for a 4:59 song xD
Well, that's it... I hope this was helpful, since it took me 3 hours to get all this done XD
Raiden

Chromoxx wrote:

FIFTH

Hi there from Chromoxx' dank MLG pro nonexistent modding queue. (M4M with Raiden)


MLG mod
[General]
Preview Point needs to be set
Uninherited Timing Points of the Inner Oni conflict with the other difficulties
Unsnapped Objects in the Inner Oni


[Raiden's Oni]
First impression when playing: I really enjoyed this, it's mapped very well to the music and the patterns play well. It may well be one of your best maps, Raiden. The only thing that kind of disturbed me was the high SV part where finishers came flying at you, i think it's ok in a way but there are a lot more interesting things that you could do here, especially the second part like that was kinda overdone with the finishers imo, i'd suggest changing that up a bit and i'll make a few suggestions to that in the mod. I don't think i'll have much more to add other than that, since the map seemed really good over all! :D

01:53:305 - ok for this part i would suggest toning down the SV a bit and adding 2 1/2 buildup notes for every finisher, maybe even more connecting notes for the last half of this SV part, i think the finishers with the SV are kind of a cool idea, but it feels like something is missing, so maybe tone it down a bit and add the notes inbetween as i suggested ^^ Kind of makes sense and I expected it to be mentioned on all mods, but I am personally very satisfied on the feel of rush it gives out of a sudden, plus the notes emphasize the heavy vocals in a way that makes it most fitting as a standalone with high SV.
04:28:282 - again, here i'd suggest toning down the SV a bit and making 1/2 triplets by adding notes between the finishers, this would fill out the song a bit more and feel less empty. Similar answer, although this time with higher density to announce that the end is nearing. Although I might tone it down a bit in the end if it gets mentioned more times.
All in all this is a really good map, i might have mapped some stuff differently, but i like how you did it and don't really see it as neccesary to change anything else other than the parts i pointed out. Nice one Raiden ;) ty fam


[Conclusion]
Nice set in general and really nice song. I hope to see this ranked in the near future.
Props to everyone for making a full spread for a 4:59 song xD
Well, that's it... I hope this was helpful, since it took me 3 hours to get all this done XD
Regarding general issues, they will be fixed soon enough kek

@jaco

01:52:487 (38,39,40,41) - y 04:27:396 (38,39,40,41) - no son 1/3 si le das a 25%, son solo d d k en 1/2, si quieres haz ddddk 1/4 como hice yo

cambié algunas cositas por mi mismo
diff: http://puu.sh/nPYle.zip
Topic Starter
LZD

Chromoxx wrote:

SPOILER
FIFTH

Hi there from Chromoxx' dank MLG pro nonexistent modding queue. (M4M with Raiden)

MLG mod
[General]
Preview Point needs to be set
Uninherited Timing Points of the Inner Oni conflict with the other difficulties
Unsnapped Objects in the Inner Oni

[Futsuu]
First impression when playing: The diff is also relatively consistent and fits well with the music, but there are quite a few places where there should be breaks. Some parts are mapped with very long consistent 1/1 without leaving even 2/1 breaks inbetween, so the mod in this diff will also be geared towards toning it down a slight bit, to also mesh better with the suggestions for the kantan.

01:03:942 (95) - you can probably delete this note, since it leaves a nice break in this relatively long pattern without 2/1 breaks and adds good emphasis on the next 2 notes where there are strong drum sounds i didnt change it like you said but you gave me a good idea
01:12:942 (121) - change to k to emphasize the vocal and the high instrumental sound here i want to keep it simple as only dons
01:17:305 (134) - ^ , you can also change this one 01:17:851 (135) - since it's high pitched too, that would make this part a bit less monotone and build up more suspense ^same
01:21:123 (146,148) - you can change these to k to emphasize the higher vocal on 146 and the higher instrumental on 148, would also add more variety ^same
01:26:032 (158) - change to k for emphasis on the instrumental ^same
01:34:487 (4) - delete this or one of the notes in this pattern, since it's kinda long for a futsuu added some changes here
01:38:851 (19) - you can delete this note to add a bit of a break before the triplet and 5plet ok
01:40:078 (26) - i'd also think about deleting this note, to make it a bit easier^or one or the other, so 5plet stays with me
01:43:214 (4) - same as 01:34:487 (4) - changed like before
01:45:942 (17,18) - delete these, otherwise this pattern gets far too long, 01:46:623 - you could add a note here for compensationdelayed that triplet a bit
02:05:305 - starting here there is a 1/1 pattern, which is way too long. I'd suggest cutting it multiple times at places of your choiceit's just 1/1 and it's the part of the song with more intensity
02:19:760 (119) - i'd also delete this note, since 12 1/1 notes in a row are also a bit too much^same
02:40:214 - starting here i'd move slightly away from that consistent 2/1 rythm, since it gets monotonous very fast, maybe leave a break or 2 to keep it fresh i want to keep it simple, and it has already variations with those 1/1 in between
02:44:442 - 02:44:987 - add a k, would groove very well and fit the instrumentals if i do that i should put a k here too 02:40:578 - and i want it simply
02:45:532 - add a d for the same reason ^same
02:45:669 (67,69) - change to k since the pitch goes down and up again in this tripletv
02:47:305 (72) - change to k because it's the highest sound in the triplet and it would add more varietyv
02:48:123 (74,75) - change to k since these sounds are higher than in the other 2 tripletsi want this 3 triplets in a simply way, because the song here is relaxing and i want to emphasize the upcoming k sounds
02:50:578 (79) - delete this note to leave a bit of a break and get away from the monotonous 2/1 rythm the sound here is too obvious so i will leave it
for all the notes below this use the 1/3 tick before the red tick on the time stamps... i kinda messed up here xD
02:54:260 - add a k to keep things fresh and less monotone, it would also emphasize the next note very well (this would be 02:54:214 - and so on)
02:56:442 - ^
02:58:623 - ^
03:00:805 - ^
03:01:896 - ^ here as well because the music is escalating a bit in this part and it would keep things flowing forward
03:02:987 - ^
03:04:078 - ^
03:05:169 - ^
03:05:714 - ^ again, now before every note because it goes forwards again
03:06:260 - ^
03:06:805 - ^
03:07:351 - ^i took all this suggestion and modified it by my way
03:11:714 - add k again, to keep things less monotone and emphasize the next note here i wont
03:13:351 - ^
03:13:896 - ^
03:14:987 - ^
03:16:078 - ^
03:17:169 - ^
03:18:260 - ^ i kinda like this part now
03:48:396 (4) - change to k to emphasize the high instrumentalsame as before
03:49:760 (8) - delete this to leave a bit of a break and shorten the pattern a bitsame as before
03:52:214 (16,17) - change to k to emphasize the high instrumentalssame as before
03:54:123 (21) - delete this to leave a bit of a break and shorten the pattern, since it's slightly too longsame as before
03:57:123 (30) - change to k to emphasize the high vocalsame as before
04:00:941 (40) - change to k to emphasize the high vocal and instrumental soundsame as before
04:09:396 (4) - delete this or any other note in this pattern to shorten itsame as before
04:13:760 (19) - delete this again, to shorten the pattern, which is too longyep
04:14:714 (24) - maybe delete this, i guess it could be ok thosame as before
04:18:123 (4) - delete this to shorten the patternsame as before
04:20:851 (17,18) - delete these to add a 2/1 break in here, the 3 triplets are a bit overkill for a futsuu imo, you can add a note 04:21:532 - here for compensationsame as before
04:28:214 - same as the start of the first kiai, do something about the monotonous 2/1 rythmyou didnt say anything on the first kiai but i think it has enough variation between those 2/1 k spam
04:40:214 - the 1/1 + 1/2 pattern here is far too long, i would suggest shortening it multiple times
04:54:669 (87) - delete this note to shorten the pattern down to a reasonable sizesame as before
04:57:669 - this end is a bit tricky but i guess it's fine to add a short harder pattern in at the end, might want to make it a bit easier though i think a bit of challenging at the end of the song isnt bad, newscomers has already easy parts on this song so i want to make it challenging for all futsuu players
All in all a good diff i'd say, i think i gave you plenty of suggestions to make it a bit easier, just choose the ones you like most. Also left some suggestions to make the slow part more interesting.

[Muzukashii]
First impression when playing: Again, this is mapped consistently and well to the music, but it is a bit too hard. There are many 1/2 and 1/2 + 1/4 patterns that are too long for a muzukashii, especially at this bpm, so i'll suggest some things where you can tone it down here.

00:23:442 (35) - i'd delete this note to make the pattern easier. I would suggest not using any 1/2 patterns longer than 9 notes anyway and using one like this right off the bat might be a bit over the top imo
00:40:896 (45) - delete this, the pattern is too long
00:49:623 (91) - ^
01:03:669 - this pattern is also too long imo, i'd find some way to shorten it up or or make it easier
01:08:032 - same as before, but this one is even longer ^^
01:11:851 - for this part i'd suggest doing the same d changes to k for pitch emphasis as i suggested in the futsuu
01:53:305 (60) - i'd suggest changing this to d since the pitch is lower than the k in the following triplets and it would add more variety
01:55:487 (72) - ^
01:56:987 (81) - delete this, since the pattern is too long imo
01:57:396 (84,85,86) - change to kkd to because the last note is a lower pitch than the k in the following triplets
01:59:851 (98) - change to d for the same reason as above
for the triplets above this, you might even change them to kkd to be distinguishable from the next part, which is different
02:01:351 (107) - delete for the same reason as before
02:02:032 (112) - change to d for the same reason as above
02:04:214 (124) - ^
02:05:714 (133) - delete again
02:06:396 - for this part you went for the 1/1 beat for buildup but i would suggest adding a couple 1/2 triplets inbetween so that it doesn't get stale
02:11:305 - this is way too long, add breaks in here pls
02:15:669 - ^
02:18:396 - ^
02:52:214 - for this part i would suggest the same as in the futsuu to make it more interesting, maybe even with a few more notes (or reduce the ammount of notes added in the futsuu)
03:08:760 (142) - delete this to shorten up the pattern a bit and make it simpler
03:46:760 - for these parts i'd suggest maybe making some 1/1 triplets inbetween to keep it less stale (for instance adding a note at 03:47:578 - ), do this for the other similar parts too
04:28:214 - the same as i suggested in the first kiai here (including changes to d, pattern cuts etc.)
04:58:351 (12) - delete this note to shorten the pattern
04:58:351 (12,18) - ^
I guess i gave enough points that can be changed here, i hope you take these into consideration ^^. i took in consideration all your suggestion and i toned down the difficulty in terms of density so now the spread with futsuu is more linear

[Inner Oni]
First impression when playing: I had a lot of fun playing this and the patterning seems consistent through the map, but those really long stamina streams in the kiai are really overdone imo. Yes, there is a consistent drumline there, but there are other things you can use it for, which would make the map more interesting and fun than it already is ^^. There might also be a few suggestions to make some of the other streams play better.

Change HP to 6. 7 is a bit harsh for the difficulty of the map.
01:08:851 (214,215,216,217,218,219) - i'd ask you to consider changing this up, i mean it fits i guess and this is mainly based on personal preference but xxxooo patterns have a problem with giving right emphasis imo. Since there is a color change on a blue tick, but no color change on the red/white tick the blue tick will recieve more emphasis from such a pattern, making things feel really weird. That's why i would suggest changing 01:09:124 (218) - to k, as it plays smoother, sounds smoother and the k also emphasizes the sound on that white tick very well. [b]changed a bit
01:11:851 - i'd suggest mapping a bit to the vocals in these parts as it would help build up tension and make things less stale, this suggestion goes for all these parts throughout the map.the music is very fluctuant in intensity in this section, as it goes calm -> fast and then back to calm after every stanza, so i prefer to keep the calm part really simple and give more emphasis to the faster part
01:55:487 (63) - i'd suggest changing these notes to d, similar as in the muzukashii as they are lower pitch than the other k sounds here, this goes for all of them again, if you accepted what i suggested in the muzui think the last notes for those streams have higher pitch than the stream itself
02:00:669 - I don't really agree with these streams, even though there is a consistent 1/4 drumline here. i think you could make things a lot more interesting if you made some shorter streams that were maybe a bit more pattern intensive or something like that. It's ok to keep some long monostreams, but having them go on for so long is a bit over the top in my opinion. The same goes for the last kiai, although you can probably keep those a bit longer than in the first (as you already did, but shorter than that please)i was gently here, and its part of the map
02:37:419 (21) - i don't really see any reason to have this color change on a blue tick here, ctrl G this 02:37:419 (21,22) - and it will sound a lot cleaner imochanged it a bit to make it less tricky
I don't have much more to suggest, since i agree with your mapping for the most part, just please consider toning down those streams in the kiai a bit, since they are overkill imo.

[Conclusion]
Nice set in general and really nice song. I hope to see this ranked in the near future.
Props to everyone for making a full spread for a 4:59 song xD
Well, that's it... I hope this was helpful, since it took me 3 hours to get all this done XD
Thanks for your mod !
Nwolf

Grimbow wrote:

[Nwolf's Kantan]

01:22:760 (22,23,24) - Change this pattern to d k k, it follows the guitar riff a bit better this way

I like the way this plays!

Chromoxx wrote:

FIFTH

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MLG mod
[Nwolf's Kantan]
First impression when playing: The diff seems pretty consistent in general and fits well with the song, it's definitely on the harder side as kantans go, having quite a few spots with multiple 1/1 patterns in a row and even 1/1 5plets, which may be a bit hard at this BPM. When looking at the general star rating and object count spread i guess it fits in, the suggestions will still be geared towards tuning it down a bit here, as it would probably still fit in the spread when it's toned down just a little.

00:15:396 (2) - you can remove this, because this pattern has the same density in futsuu, and it might be easier for kantan players to start off this long map with easier patterns
00:19:760 (10) - ^
00:24:123 (19) - ^
00:28:487 (27) - ^ the difference to Futsuu always lies in the fact that Futsuu uses big notes and different colors. This will also give you a hint that this is a harder Kantan (which is why only HP5)
01:12:942 (3) - you can change this to k to emphasize the vocal here kats are for the intense parts like the one below
01:14:305 (5) - maybe delete this note to add a bit of a break and not overload the kantan player with a 5plet at this bpm, or you can split the kkkkk k into kkk kkk changed
01:22:760 (22,23,24) - i'd change this to dkk since the guitar pitch goes up from 22 to 23 ye
01:33:123 (14) - delete this note to leave a 4/1 break before the 5plet, this part in general is relatively long without the 4/1 break anyway did other changes
01:33:942 (16) - i'd delete this tbh, i'm not too sure about using a 5plet at this bpm for the kantan did both (also because Futsuu)
01:35:305 (20) - change this to k because of the high guitar sound and 01:35:851 (21) - to D because of the drum crash and low intense vocal stays for now
-insert 5 more points here, dunno what I applied and what not because I did a lot on my own. Also some things repeated
01:48:942 (2) - i'd change this to k since it's a higher pitch than the sound before
01:51:123 (3) - ^
01:57:123 (10) - i'd delete this, since the sound here is kinda in the background and it would be a bit more steady imo, maybe add these notes onto places like 01:54:942 - as a k, i think it would be more direct, since there is an instrumental sound here that the finishers are following and the other is just a background chorus noise. This is for the whole part if you decide to do it background choir-thing is the reason I added this, I find them pretty prominent. Also 02:05:851 (24) - I think this one is pretty important so moving other notes would make it inconsistent
02:42:942 (2) - delete this, since the kk after it would sound a lot better imo why?? Two kats makes no sense
02:53:851 (18) - delete this, to make it a bit less dense and give better emphasis on the d k d on the other parts
02:58:214 (25) - ^ changed
03:30:942 (37) - delete, the constant 2/1 gets very monotone that's why there's a spinner
03:37:487 (4) - ^ there is a break coming up
03:49:214 (5,14) - maybe delete, i'm not too sure about the 5plets again, they fit but they may be too hard
03:57:942 (23) - ^ same changes as in the last part
04:03:396 (5) - ^ this one is kinda out of place anyway imo, since the emphasis should be on the red tick at 04:03:532 - but you're omitting that for difficulty reasons... i think you can move the next note there if you want or leave it where it is now, if you don't want the red tick note 01:28:214 - *coughcough*. Removed the third note on both spots. Also undid the three triplet change, because it's not three triplets anymore
04:08:032 (16) - delete to leave a 4/1 break no
-rest is same as before anyway-
04:19:760 (46) - ^ in general an x xxx or xxx x pattern can add the needed emphasis tbh, for all the 5plets this is also emphasis?? Also required due to Futsuu being hard here
04:49:214 (43) - maybe delete, i think this one is a bit better than the others tho, since it's near the end and at a very intense part of the song Futsuu.
Nice diff overall, i left a lot of suggestions on how to make it easier, so if you don't want to apply all of them i'd suggest you do at least some, since it really needs to be a bit easier imo, so i left you quite a few options to consider ^^
thanks!

Kantan
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288,224,225123,1,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,225669,12,0,226487,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,227305,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,227851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,228942,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,229487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,231123,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,232214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,233305,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,233578,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,233851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,234396,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,234669,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,234942,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,235487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,236032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,236578,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,237669,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,238214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,238760,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,239032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,239851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,240396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,240942,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,242032,5,12,0:0:0:0:
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288,160,248032,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,224,248578,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,250214,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,252123,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,252942,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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288,160,254032,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,254578,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,224,257305,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,258396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Topic Starter
LZD
updated with nwolf's kantan and fixed some timing stuff on inner
lop
hi >.<
kantan and futsuu no problem

[Mzukashii]
003:04:396 - 03:04:942 - add notes here ? all 1/1 a bit boring

[Raiden's Oni]
00:52:078 - miss a note?
00:50:101 (16) - add d here?
01:20:169 (28,29,30,31) - this slow down ;w;w;w;w;
01:53:305 (1) - nice speed up!
02:07:214 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - make it simple like d d k ddd d k ddd d k? this kiai is not suit for too many color changes imo

[Inner Oni]
00:52:078 - miss a note?
01:33:328 (158) - ,01:33:601 (161) - ,04:08:237 (158) - 04:16:964 (253) -
just a suggestion, move to 01:33:601 (161) - and make 01:33:532 (160,161) - d

take my star XD
rank this please!
Topic Starter
LZD

-S a I k A- wrote:

hi >.<
kantan and futsuu no problem

[Mzukashii]
003:04:396 - 03:04:942 - add notes here ? all 1/1 a bit boring. ok cool

[Raiden's Oni]
00:52:078 - miss a note?
00:50:101 (16) - add d here?
01:20:169 (28,29,30,31) - this slow down ;w;w;w;w;
01:53:305 (1) - nice speed up!
02:07:214 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - make it simple like d d k ddd d k ddd d k? this kiai is not suit for too many color changes imo

[Inner Oni]
00:52:078 - miss a note? added
01:33:328 (158) - ,01:33:601 (161) - ,04:08:237 (158) - 04:16:964 (253) -
just a suggestion, move to 01:33:601 (161) - and make 01:33:532 (160,161) - di dont understand this suggestion xD

take my star XD
rank this please!
thanks, and i hope you can clarify me that suggestion
Raiden

-S a I k A- wrote:

[Raiden's Oni]
00:52:078 - miss a note? nope, it's when the guitar pauses
00:50:101 (16) - add d here? huh?
01:20:169 (28,29,30,31) - this slow down ;w;w;w;w; perfectly readable
01:53:305 (1) - nice speed up! thx :3
02:07:214 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - make it simple like d d k ddd d k ddd d k? this kiai is not suit for too many color changes imo ...
Thanks for your mod!
Surono
Approval duration ( just -1 second.. ) but did mapset
this greaat... GLuck for this, wah wah!

need more oriental metal!!
Raiden
hice unos cambios por mi mismo

http://puu.sh/owzXX.rar
Topic Starter
LZD

Surono wrote:

Approval duration ( just -1 second.. ) but did mapset
this greaat... GLuck for this, wah wah!

need more oriental metal!!
Drain time is 4:44 :(

ty and i'll do my best
Nofool
offset seems early af just sayin

can't tell how much since the song's beat are kinda confusing, but notes definitely look like they are arriving way too early while playing
Topic Starter
LZD

Nofool wrote:

offset seems early af just sayin

can't tell how much since the song's beat are kinda confusing, but notes definitely look like they are arriving way too early while playing
Ty a lot dude, it was -14 mms off
Hanjamon
yo

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • What about add a kiai in 03:27:137 - and finish in 03:46:774 - ?
    Open every .osu with notepad and paste the next code in
    this will fix the bg, if you need help with that send me a pm in-game
    bg fix
    [Events]
    //Background and Video events
    0,0,"samurai_shogun_warrior_1920x1080_2125204898.jpg",0,40
    //Break Periods
    //Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
    //Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
    //Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
    //Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
    //Storyboard Sound Samples
[Nwolf's Kantan]

  • 02:43:228 - i suggest deleting this note, Futsuu doesn't has a note there and it's a calm part
[Futsuu]

  • 00:52:910 (70) - sugiero mover esta nota a 00:52:365 - y cambiarla a k, tambien cambiar a k la nota de 00:52:774 - , la razon, suena mejor y ayuda a tener un mejor spread con la muzu en mi opinion
    01:08:319 (109,110,111,112,113,114,115) - sugiero que elimines estas notas notas y hagas un slider de 01:08:319 - hasta 01:09:410 - , en la Muzukashii no tienes notas ahi por lo que considero esta parte en la Futsuu mas dificil, asi que añadiendo un slider igualaria la cosa, la unica diferencia es que en la futsuu te sugiero que inicies el slider en 01:08:319 - y lo finalices en 01:09:410 - , para dar asi mas tiempo de reaccion a los que juegan futsuus
    01:27:819 - recomiendo eliminar esta nota, en la Muzu tienes el mismo pattern, asi que eliminando esta nota ayudaria con el spread
    01:36:546 - lo mismo que ^ elimina esta nota
    01:39:137 - uy que ha pasado aqui, esto es lo mismo que la Muzu, elimina 01:39:274 - y 01:40:092 - , lo que quedaria algo como k d kkd k
    02:06:410 - esta parte se vuelve igual que en la Muzu, sugiero eliminar estas notas 02:07:228 - , 02:08:319 - , 02:09:410 -
    02:10:092 - sugiero eliminar esta nota, esto ayudara con el spread
    02:11:046 - en esta parte para un mejor spread recomiendo eliminar 02:12:137 - y 02:13:774 - y añadir un k en 02:13:365 -
    02:16:501 - si has eliminado las notas de ^ elimina esta tambien para hacer consistencia
    02:36:956 - aqui volvemos a tener el mismo problema de antes, que tienes un slider en la muzu pero notas en la futsuu, asi que, que tal hacer eliminar 02:36:956 (50,51,52,53,54,55) - y hacer un slider de 02:36:956 - hasta 02:37:774 - ?
    02:45:683 - actualmente tienes estos patterns en la muzu, asi que recomiendo eliminar 02:47:046 - y 02:48:137 - conservando el d d d de 02:45:956 - ya que Nwolf tiene un k en 02:46:228 - y no queremos que esta parte sea mas facil que la kantan xD
    02:50:592 - eliminar esta nota? asi lo haces un poco diferente de la muzu
    02:53:865 - se que son solo k esta parte y es mas facil que la muzu, pero aun asi puede ser un poco agotador ya que aunque sea una futsuu muchos players nuevos no estan acostumbrados a este bpm (y probablemente singletapearan el kk 1/3 que es mas de 220 bpm), asi que en conclusion, recomiendo que elimines esta nota para que no la lien antes de hittear el kk xD
    02:56:046 - lo mismo que ^
    02:58:228 - ^
    03:00:410 - ^
    03:02:592 - ^
    03:04:774 - ^ xD
    03:06:228 - que ha pasado aqui, este kk no esta en la Muzu y no encaja xD eliminalo
    03:06:956 - lo mismo que las anteriores sugerencias, eliminar
    03:18:228 - esta nota no esta en la muzu, recomiendo eliminarla y añadirla en la muzu
    03:19:319 - eliminar esta nota para un mejor spread con la muzu? ya que esta parte es exactamente igual
    03:21:501 - si has eliminado ^ lo mismo aqui
    03:24:774 - ^
    03:32:410 - eliminala para un mejor spread con la muzu
    03:33:319 - lo mismo aqui, elimina, ademas, quedara mucho mas consistente con 03:32:046 -
    03:45:819 - recomiendo eliminar esta nota y mover 03:46:637 - a 03:46:365 - y cambiarlo a d, quedaria algo como d k ddk d, si lo comparas con la muzu tiene un mejor spread
    04:02:728 - al igual que sugeri antes, elimina esta nota ya que esto es igual que la muzu
    04:11:456 - ^
    04:14:183 - al igual que antes, elimina 04:14:183 - y 04:15:001 -
    04:42:137 - como antes, elimina 04:42:137 - , 04:43:228 - , 04:44:319 -
    04:45:001 - lo mismo, eliminar para el spread
    04:47:046 - lo mismo, elimina 04:47:046 - y 04:48:683 - y añade un k en 04:48:274 -
    04:51:410 - lo mismo, elimina
    04:57:956 - que tal hacer esto aqui para un mejor spread? elimina 04:57:956 - y 04:58:774 - y mueve 04:58:228 - a 04:58:092 - y mueve 04:59:046 - a 04:58:910 -

    Si has aplicado todo esto veras que la Futsuu es mas facil y tiene un mucho mejor spread con la Muzu en mi opinion, no pienses que porque te haya sugerido tanta cosa signifique que sea una mala Futsuu, solo fueron problemas de spread xD
[Muzukashii]

  • 00:50:319 - recomiendo eliminar esta nota, ya que esta parte es algo densa y al apenas haber descanso es facil missear en el ddd d d k de 00:50:592 - , asi que eliminando 00:50:319 - dara un pequeño descanso
    01:46:092 - eliminar esta nota? esto es un sin parar de 1/2 asi que eliminando esta nota ayudaria a hittear mejor el triplete de ddd (seria algo como k ddd k d)
    01:53:046 - eliminar esta nota? el kiai no tiene ningun descanso en 20 segundos por lo que eliminando esta nota (en mi opinion) ayudaria a los jugadores a prepararse mejor, ya que estamos hablando de una Muzu y no una Oni, ya que esta ultima siempre suele ser mucho mas densa sin apenas descansos
    04:21:001 - si eliminaste la nota de 01:46:092 - elimina esta tambien
    04:27:956 - lo mismo que antes de eliminar la nota
    04:59:046 - elimina esta nota, este pattern es largo para una Muzu y es muy facil missearlo
[Raiden's Oni]

  • 00:17:319 - considera mapear partes como esta y 00:26:046 - etc, ya que todas las demas diffs la han mapeado y queda bastante inconsistente siendo esta la unica diff que no lo ha mapeado
    00:23:251 - eliminar esta nota? considerando que es la unica Oni esto puede ser bastante dificil para jugadores que apenas estan empezando con las Onis
    00:50:319 - sugiero eliminar 00:50:319 - y 00:50:387 - y añadir un K finisher a la nota de 00:50:183 - , como ya he dicho antes, considerando que es la unica Oni esto puede ser un poco dificil, de esta forma dejaras un pequeño break despues de hittear estos 5plet seguidos
    01:20:183 - me gusta la idea de los cambios de sv, pero en partes como estas, el kkk es dificil de leer en mi opinion, quiza podrias empezar los cambios de sv en 01:19:910 - para que los jugadores puedan reaccionar mejor
    01:52:638 (27) - esta nota no esta bien snapeada, esto puede ser debido al cambio de offset, asi que realiza un autosnap y snapea los 1/3 manualmente
    03:22:410 (61,62,63,64,65) - cambiar a ddddk? suena mucho mejor imo
    03:31:137 (105,106,107,108,109) - aqui igual, cambiar a ddddk? suena mucho mejor ya que 03:31:501 - con k suena bien por el sonido de la guitarra al igual que 03:32:046 -
    03:46:228 - lo mismo que antes acerca de los cambios de sv, kdddk es algo dificil con este cambio de sv

    la diff me gusta pero me preocupa el spread entre la Muzu y la Oni ya que algunas partes en las que la Muzu tiene notas tu tienes descansos o sliders etc.. prueba a mirarlo
[Inner Oni]

  • 00:36:546 (40,41) - que tal cambiar estas notas a d? quedaria de 00:35:865 - a 00:36:819 - kkkkddk kkddddk, y queda mejor en mi opinion ya que kkkkddk kkkkddk <--- este segundo stream se escucha un poco diferente y creo que kkddddk encaja mejor
    00:45:274 (40,41) - si has cambiado ^ lo mismo aqui, cambia estas notas a d
    00:59:865 (115,116,117,118,119,120) - cambiar estos ddd ddd a kkd kkd? si escuchas lentamente van mejor con el ritmo en mi opinion y son diferentes a 01:02:046 (140,141,142,143,144,145) -
    01:00:546 (123) - cambiar esta nota a d? kkddkkkkd fluye mejor imo
    01:12:410 (2,1) - cambiar estas notas a k? encajan bien con el sonido
    01:14:046 - rip ddkk/kkdd players xDDDD
    01:16:774 (29,31) - si has aceptado lo de 01:12:410 (2,1) - aqui igual, cambia a k
    01:21:137 (59,61) - ^
    01:25:501 (88,90) - ^
    02:48:137 (25) - cambiar esta nota a k? d k k suena mucho mejor imo
    02:52:228 (1) - recomiendo añadir K finisher a esta nota y a 03:00:956 (1) - , no se si haya sido intencionado ignorar el finisher debido a que es una parte "tranquila" pero suena bien imo
    03:05:319 (25) - si aplicaste ^ añade finisher aqui tambien
    03:39:046 - cambiar esta nota a d? quedaria ddkdd, ddkkd ddkkd me suena un poco raro ya que 03:38:774 (120,121,122,123,124) - suena diferente a 03:38:228 (115,116,117,118,119) -
    03:42:956 - cambiar esta nota y 03:44:046 - a d? se juega mejor ya que el actual pattern queda impar y cambiando a d estas notas queda la misma cantidad de dons y kats kkkkkkddddddkkkkkkdddddd
    03:47:319 (2,1) - si aceptastes las sugerencias de 01:12:410 (2,1) - cambia estas notas a k
    03:51:683 (29,31) - ^
    03:56:046 (59,61) - ^
    04:00:410 (88,90) - ^
    04:57:137 (9) - mueve esta nota a 04:57:001 - y cambiala a k, es inconsistente con la parte de 02:21:546 -
Bueno esto es todo, buena suerte con el mapa y espero que mi mod no te de dolores de cabeza :3
Topic Starter
LZD

Hanjamon wrote:

yo

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  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • What about add a kiai in 03:27:137 - and finish in 03:46:774 - ? ok
    Open every .osu with notepad and paste the next code in
    this will fix the bg, if you need help with that send me a pm in-game
    bg fix
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[Futsuu]

  • 00:52:910 (70) - sugiero mover esta nota a 00:52:365 - y cambiarla a k, tambien cambiar a k la nota de 00:52:774 - , la razon, suena mejor y ayuda a tener un mejor spread con la muzu en mi opinion mucho mejor
    01:08:319 (109,110,111,112,113,114,115) - sugiero que elimines estas notas notas y hagas un slider de 01:08:319 - hasta 01:09:410 - , en la Muzukashii no tienes notas ahi por lo que considero esta parte en la Futsuu mas dificil, asi que añadiendo un slider igualaria la cosa, la unica diferencia es que en la futsuu te sugiero que inicies el slider en 01:08:319 - y lo finalices en 01:09:410 - , para dar asi mas tiempo de reaccion a los que juegan futsuus estsa mierdas siempre se me pasan , ty
    01:27:819 - recomiendo eliminar esta nota, en la Muzu tienes el mismo pattern, asi que eliminando esta nota ayudaria con el spread ya pero en la muzu tengo nota aqui 01:27:410 - , cosa que en la futsuu no, y lo hace mas denso, no creo necesario quitar la nota de la futsuu
    01:36:546 - lo mismo que ^ elimina esta nota ^same
    01:39:137 - uy que ha pasado aqui, esto es lo mismo que la Muzu, elimina 01:39:274 - y 01:40:092 - , lo que quedaria algo como k d kkd k ok
    02:06:410 - esta parte se vuelve igual que en la Muzu, sugiero eliminar estas notas 02:07:228 - , 02:08:319 - , 02:09:410 - ok
    02:10:092 - sugiero eliminar esta nota, esto ayudara con el spread directamente la movi a 02:09:819 (75) -
    02:11:046 - en esta parte para un mejor spread recomiendo eliminar 02:12:137 - y 02:13:774 - y añadir un k en 02:13:365 - nope, la muzu ya es mas densa
    02:16:501 - si has eliminado las notas de ^ elimina esta tambien para hacer consistencia ^same
    02:36:956 - aqui volvemos a tener el mismo problema de antes, que tienes un slider en la muzu pero notas en la futsuu, asi que, que tal hacer eliminar 02:36:956 (50,51,52,53,54,55) - y hacer un slider de 02:36:956 - hasta 02:37:774 - ? ok
    02:45:683 - actualmente tienes estos patterns en la muzu, asi que recomiendo eliminar 02:47:046 - y 02:48:137 - conservando el d d d de 02:45:956 - ya que Nwolf tiene un k en 02:46:228 - y no queremos que esta parte sea mas facil que la kantan xD ok
    02:50:592 - eliminar esta nota? asi lo haces un poco diferente de la muzu ok
    02:53:865 - se que son solo k esta parte y es mas facil que la muzu, pero aun asi puede ser un poco agotador ya que aunque sea una futsuu muchos players nuevos no estan acostumbrados a este bpm (y probablemente singletapearan el kk 1/3 que es mas de 220 bpm), asi que en conclusion, recomiendo que elimines esta nota para que no la lien antes de hittear el kk xD lo veo bien
    02:56:046 - lo mismo que ^
    02:58:228 - ^
    03:00:410 - ^
    03:02:592 - ^
    03:04:774 - ^ xD
    03:06:228 - que ha pasado aqui, este kk no esta en la Muzu y no encaja xD eliminalo ok
    03:06:956 - lo mismo que las anteriores sugerencias, eliminar este no lo veo tan necesario ya que el 1/3 que viene empieza en tick blanco, mientras que los de antes empezaban en el 1/3
    03:18:228 - esta nota no esta en la muzu, recomiendo eliminarla y añadirla en la muzu ok
    03:19:319 - eliminar esta nota para un mejor spread con la muzu? ya que esta parte es exactamente igual ok
    03:21:501 - si has eliminado ^ lo mismo aqui ok
    03:24:774 - ^ ok
    03:32:410 - eliminala para un mejor spread con la muzu correcto
    03:33:319 - lo mismo aqui, elimina, ademas, quedara mucho mas consistente con 03:32:046 - me mola
    03:45:819 - recomiendo eliminar esta nota y mover 03:46:637 - a 03:46:365 - y cambiarlo a d, quedaria algo como d k ddk d, si lo comparas con la muzu tiene un mejor spread 03:45:819 - no puedo obviar este sonido, necesita volver de la parte 1/3 con energia, elimino solo 03:46:637 - por el spread
    04:02:728 - al igual que sugeri antes, elimina esta nota ya que esto es igual que la muzu lo mismo que antes
    04:11:456 - ^ ^same
    04:14:183 - al igual que antes, elimina 04:14:183 - y 04:15:001 - ok
    04:42:137 - como antes, elimina 04:42:137 - , 04:43:228 - , 04:44:319 - ok
    04:45:001 - lo mismo, eliminar para el spread lo mismo que antes
    04:47:046 - lo mismo, elimina 04:47:046 - y 04:48:683 - y añade un k en 04:48:274 - se queda como antes
    04:51:410 - lo mismo, elimina igual que antes
    04:57:956 - que tal hacer esto aqui para un mejor spread? elimina 04:57:956 - y 04:58:774 - y mueve 04:58:228 - a 04:58:092 - y mueve 04:59:046 - a 04:58:910 - de momento se queda como esta, para dar un extra de dificultad al final

    Si has aplicado todo esto veras que la Futsuu es mas facil y tiene un mucho mejor spread con la Muzu en mi opinion, no pienses que porque te haya sugerido tanta cosa signifique que sea una mala Futsuu, solo fueron problemas de spread xD
[Muzukashii]

  • 00:50:319 - recomiendo eliminar esta nota, ya que esta parte es algo densa y al apenas haber descanso es facil missear en el ddd d d k de 00:50:592 - , asi que eliminando 00:50:319 - dara un pequeño descanso ok
    01:46:092 - eliminar esta nota? esto es un sin parar de 1/2 asi que eliminando esta nota ayudaria a hittear mejor el triplete de ddd (seria algo como k ddd k d) ok
    01:53:046 - eliminar esta nota? el kiai no tiene ningun descanso en 20 segundos por lo que eliminando esta nota (en mi opinion) ayudaria a los jugadores a prepararse mejor, ya que estamos hablando de una Muzu y no una Oni, ya que esta ultima siempre suele ser mucho mas densa sin apenas descansos se la dejo por que el kiai no tiene es tan chungo, no tiene ningun 1/4
    04:21:001 - si eliminaste la nota de 01:46:092 - elimina esta tambien sierto
    04:27:956 - lo mismo que antes de eliminar la nota lomismo xd
    04:59:046 - elimina esta nota, este pattern es largo para una Muzu y es muy facil missearlo es el culmen de la cancion, se queda, por una seccion chunga la gente no se va a morir y hara que vayan mejor preparados pa la oni
[Inner Oni]

  • 00:36:546 (40,41) - que tal cambiar estas notas a d? quedaria de 00:35:865 - a 00:36:819 - kkkkddk kkddddk, y queda mejor en mi opinion ya que kkkkddk kkkkddk <--- este segundo stream se escucha un poco diferente y creo que kkddddk encaja mejor no me gustaba mucho ya ese pattern, estaba por hacer fulto, lo deje en kkk ddk d kkddk xD
    00:45:274 (40,41) - si has cambiado ^ lo mismo aqui, cambia estas notas a d ^seim
    00:59:865 (115,116,117,118,119,120) - cambiar estos ddd ddd a kkd kkd? si escuchas lentamente van mejor con el ritmo en mi opinion y son diferentes a 01:02:046 (140,141,142,143,144,145) - aqui los deje kkk ddd kkkdkkkkd, el primer triplete me di cuenta que suena como el principio de kkkdkkkkd
    01:00:546 (123) - cambiar esta nota a d? kkddkkkkd fluye mejor imo esto se queda asi, le da personalidad a la diff :^)
    01:12:410 (2,1) - cambiar estas notas a k? encajan bien con el sonido esto lo quiero hacer facil sencillo y para toda la familia, para efatizar los tripletes que viene luego
    01:14:046 - rip ddkk/kkdd players xDDDD pues esprate a thru our scars :^)
    01:16:774 (29,31) - si has aceptado lo de 01:12:410 (2,1) - aqui igual, cambia a k
    01:21:137 (59,61) - ^
    01:25:501 (88,90) - ^
    02:48:137 (25) - cambiar esta nota a k? d k k suena mucho mejor imo ok, ademas va bien con la oni
    02:52:228 (1) - recomiendo añadir K finisher a esta nota y a 03:00:956 (1) - , no se si haya sido intencionado ignorar el finisher debido a que es una parte "tranquila" pero suena bien imo se lo dejo sin poner porque mas adelante si hay big notes necesarias
    03:05:319 (25) - si aplicaste ^ añade finisher aqui tambien :^)
    03:39:046 - cambiar esta nota a d? quedaria ddkdd, ddkkd ddkkd me suena un poco raro ya que 03:38:774 (120,121,122,123,124) - suena diferente a 03:38:228 (115,116,117,118,119) - si justo me di cuenta, pero como el ddkdd no me gusta el pattern en si puse ddkdk
    03:42:956 - cambiar esta nota y 03:44:046 - a d? se juega mejor ya que el actual pattern queda impar y cambiando a d estas notas queda la misma cantidad de dons y kats kkkkkkddddddkkkkkkdddddd a tomar por culo el challenge, es bromis, cambiado
    03:47:319 (2,1) - si aceptastes las sugerencias de 01:12:410 (2,1) - cambia estas notas a k
    03:51:683 (29,31) - ^
    03:56:046 (59,61) - ^
    04:00:410 (88,90) - ^
    04:57:137 (9) - mueve esta nota a 04:57:001 - y cambiala a k, es inconsistente con la parte de 02:21:546 - comprensible xd
Bueno esto es todo, buena suerte con el mapa y espero que mi mod no te de dolores de cabeza :3
el buen pajote de mod
Nwolf
denied cause Futsuu not having that note is not a really relevant factor and I prefer having something other than 2/1
Raiden

Hanjamon wrote:

yo
[Raiden's Oni]

  • 00:17:319 - considera mapear partes como esta y 00:26:046 - etc, ya que todas las demas diffs la han mapeado y queda bastante inconsistente siendo esta la unica diff que no lo ha mapeado
    00:23:251 - eliminar esta nota? considerando que es la unica Oni esto puede ser bastante dificil para jugadores que apenas estan empezando con las Onis
    00:50:319 - sugiero eliminar 00:50:319 - y 00:50:387 - y añadir un K finisher a la nota de 00:50:183 - , como ya he dicho antes, considerando que es la unica Oni esto puede ser un poco dificil, de esta forma dejaras un pequeño break despues de hittear estos 5plet seguidos
    01:20:183 - me gusta la idea de los cambios de sv, pero en partes como estas, el kkk es dificil de leer en mi opinion, quiza podrias empezar los cambios de sv en 01:19:910 - para que los jugadores puedan reaccionar mejor yo creo que es perfectamente legible :(
    01:52:638 (27) - esta nota no esta bien snapeada, esto puede ser debido al cambio de offset, asi que realiza un autosnap y snapea los 1/3 manualmente es 1/4, pero efectivamente estaba unsnappeada lol
    03:22:410 (61,62,63,64,65) - cambiar a ddddk? suena mucho mejor imo yo creo que los drum hits y el acabamiento con un minicrash están mejor con un kkkkd
    03:31:137 (105,106,107,108,109) - aqui igual, cambiar a ddddk? suena mucho mejor ya que 03:31:501 - con k suena bien por el sonido de la guitarra al igual que 03:32:046 - estoy siguiendo principalmente los drums
    03:46:228 - lo mismo que antes acerca de los cambios de sv, kdddk es algo dificil con este cambio de sv yo creo que kdddk es super simplista y no muy dificil de leer :(

    la diff me gusta pero me preocupa el spread entre la Muzu y la Oni ya que algunas partes en las que la Muzu tiene notas tu tienes descansos o sliders etc.. prueba a mirarlo eso ya dependerá de los BNs, yo he seguido un poco mi estilo
Bueno esto es todo, buena suerte con el mapa y espero que mi mod no te de dolores de cabeza :3
SPOILER
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Hanjamon
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2017-06-19 01:19 LZD: tienes un mom para hablar de nuestro salvador jesus?
2017-06-19 01:19 LZD: digo de mi map de jikininki
2017-06-19 01:19 LZD: xD
2017-06-19 01:20 Hanjamon: xDDD si, espera un momento
2017-06-19 01:21 LZD: :Dç
2017-06-19 01:21 LZD: estoy pensando cambiar el super estream por unos burst un tanto diferentes
2017-06-19 01:22 Hanjamon: voy al editor
2017-06-19 01:22 Hanjamon: digame
2017-06-19 01:22 LZD: 01:48:956 - estas en k
2017-06-19 01:22 LZD: lo del stream era bromis
2017-06-19 01:22 LZD: xDDD
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: 01:46:774 - para que tenga constancia con esta
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: te he asustao
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: es tu mapa (?
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: pues
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: no me habia fijado en ese detalle
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: aplicalo xD
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: tampoco lo veo mal en D
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: pero en K iria mejor
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: y fruko ha testeado el map y me ha sugerido quitar los finishers al final de streams
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: sobretodo 01:46:774 -
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: lo testearia yo pero tengo fingerlock y no me sale el tricky ese xd
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: testearlo sin esta nota 01:46:706 -
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: o sin las 3 notas anteriores
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: a ver
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: para ddkk/kkdd ese finisher es ez pz
2017-06-19 01:25 LZD: lo se
2017-06-19 01:25 LZD: pero yo recuerdo que me salia
2017-06-19 01:25 LZD: xD
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: si no
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: haz la tactica que hago yo
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: 01:46:706 - eliminar
2017-06-19 01:26 Hanjamon: aunque haya sonido eliminar la nota anterior
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: esa es una de las soluciones
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: pero no la puedo testear
2017-06-19 01:26 Hanjamon: wait
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: y la verdad, no tengo en la cabeza "bua finisher al final de stream queda feo"
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: a no ser que sea muy jodido no tenia pensado quitarlo
2017-06-19 01:26 Hanjamon: ehm, tengo el osu bugeado
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: o.o
2017-06-19 01:27 Hanjamon: espera
01:28 Hanjamon: tio
01:28 Hanjamon: que se me habia activado una especie de hack para osu
01:29 Hanjamon: suerte que soy buena gente y no lo he aprovechado el bug
01:29 Hanjamon: le daba a la tecla d y se me cambiaba la velocidad del mapa, en otras palabras, podria haber fceado galaxy collapse xD
01:29 LZD: wtf
01:29 LZD: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
01:29 LZD: mennock 2
01:30 Hanjamon: xDDDD
01:31 LZD: cuando puedas ir al editor avisame
01:31 Hanjamon: a eso voy, ya has visto que estaba actualizando maps xD
01:31 LZD: si xDDD
01:32 Hanjamon: pasa minuto
01:32 Hanjamon: porfa
01:33 LZD: 04:27:956 -
01:33 LZD: ahora tenia pillado ese
01:34 LZD: que tambien era otra cosa, se nos paso que en la muzu eso va don
01:34 LZD: 01:46:774 -
01:34 LZD: lo del stream*
01:34 Hanjamon: se juega bien sin 01:46:706 -
01:34 Hanjamon: no se nota el beat
01:34 LZD: pues se lo quito
01:34 LZD: y ahora lo de los K de despues
01:35 LZD: la cosa es que tiene conflicto con la muzu y futsuu
01:35 LZD: que ahi hay don
01:35 Hanjamon: realmente
01:35 Hanjamon: a ver
01:36 Hanjamon: otra solucion
01:36 LZD: puedo modificar la muzu, pero la futsuu es mas complicado
01:36 Hanjamon: seria cambiar 01:46:569 - a d y 01:46:637 - a k para que el D fluya bien en 01:46:774 -
01:36 Hanjamon: en la inner
01:37 LZD: terminar el stream en kdk y luego un K?
01:37 Hanjamon: un D
01:38 Hanjamon: pero
01:38 Hanjamon: no se
01:38 LZD: ya
01:38 Hanjamon: es que
01:38 Hanjamon: no es lo mismo
01:38 LZD: la nota anterior al D es un d
01:38 LZD: y pide un K
01:38 LZD: lo pide
01:38 LZD: XDDDd
01:39 Hanjamon: mira sabes que
01:39 LZD: a grito pelao
01:39 LZD: delete mapset
01:39 Hanjamon: yo creo que no hace daño que sean diferentes
01:39 Hanjamon: ya que el K tambien va bien con el flow
01:39 LZD: sep
01:39 Hanjamon: y es diferente sonido a 01:48:956 -
01:39 Hanjamon: por lo que solo usa K en la vocal anterior
01:39 LZD: lo que pasa es que en cada diff me ciño a un instrumento
01:39 LZD: por eso hay que pillar otros sonidos
01:39 LZD: i guess
01:40 Hanjamon: es que en las otras diffs
01:40 Hanjamon: si usas K no fluye tan bien
01:40 Hanjamon: yo soy mucho de si se puede acabar en k D o d K mejor
01:40 LZD: fluye de pena
01:40 LZD: tenemos un aesthethic parecido
01:41 LZD: te voy a tener que volver a dar kd por esto
01:41 Hanjamon: xDDDD que no hombre
01:41 LZD: btw en la muzu estan d d k k D
01:41 Hanjamon: a menos que quieras subirle la priority (?
01:41 Hanjamon: en el mismo sitio?
01:41 LZD: podria ponerlo d d k d K
01:41 LZD: si
01:41 Hanjamon: 01:48:137 - here?
01:41 LZD: pero el d d k d k lo repiro un poco mas alante en la muzu para otro sonido diferente
01:42 LZD: si
01:42 LZD: y mas alante tengo ddk d k
01:42 LZD: con otro sonido diferente
01:42 LZD: no me molaria tener que ponerlos todos ddk d K ddk d k ddk d K
01:42 LZD: muy feo
01:42 Hanjamon: por eso, es decir, tu solo cambiale el K a la Inner
01:43 Hanjamon: pero solo 01:46:774 -
01:43 Hanjamon: no cambies ninguno mas
01:43 Hanjamon: ya que ahi sigue mejor la vocal
01:43 Hanjamon: y lo demas solo instrumental
01:43 Hanjamon: no lo veo tan inconsistente
01:44 LZD: 01:48:956 - este no K?
01:44 LZD: eso me dices?
01:44 LZD: xD
01:44 Hanjamon: exacto
01:44 Hanjamon: dejalo D
01:44 LZD: osea que lo deje como estaba?
01:44 Hanjamon: si
01:44 LZD: ewww
01:44 LZD: :<
01:44 Hanjamon: se a que te referias
01:44 LZD: pero si has dicho que no hacia daño tener diferente la inner
01:44 Hanjamon: no lo hace xD
01:45 Hanjamon: a ver, si lo prefieres K hazlo pero
01:45 Hanjamon: yo creo que 01:46:774 - con K es suficiente
01:45 Hanjamon: los demas finishers se sigue mejor el instrumental con D
01:45 LZD: hasta bien mirando creo que en la muzu 01:46:637 (26,27) - eso ctrlg
01:46 LZD: k ddd d K
01:46 Hanjamon: lo parece xD
01:46 LZD: madre mia y yo queria hablar con surono
01:46 Hanjamon: no te ralles
01:46 Hanjamon: k ddd k D no queda mal en la muzu
01:47 LZD: ahora dudo :s
01:47 LZD: mira dejo todo como estaba
01:47 LZD: y que surono lo mire
01:47 Hanjamon: como prefieras xD
01:47 Hanjamon: pero 01:46:706 -
01:47 Hanjamon: elimina (?
01:47 Hanjamon: solo esa y ya
01:48 LZD: what if
01:48 LZD: ya empiezo
01:48 LZD: siempre dandole vueltas xD
01:48 LZD: acaba el stream en kkkdddk D
01:48 LZD: para hacer todas D
01:48 LZD: estoy enfermo con la puta consistencia
01:48 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDD
01:49 Hanjamon: peor que yo lo dudo
01:49 Hanjamon: dejame testearlo wait
01:49 LZD: no lo sabes tu bien
01:49 LZD: xDDDD
01:49 Hanjamon: no fluye mal
01:49 LZD: ya me gusta lo que me dices yeeeeeeeeee
01:50 Hanjamon: aunque
01:50 Hanjamon: se me ocurre algo
01:50 LZD: pero si me sugieren hacer los K despues
01:50 LZD: dime
01:50 LZD: pero eso si me sugieren eso surono o alguien, tengo soluciones :D
01:50 Hanjamon: 01:46:228 - a 01:46:637 - , que tal te suena kkdkddk?
01:50 LZD: muy chromox
01:50 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
01:51 Hanjamon: kkkdddk queda bien
01:51 Hanjamon: apply bro
01:51 LZD: el de chormoxx querda bien
01:51 LZD: pero no me gusta
01:51 LZD: xDDDD
01:51 Hanjamon: realmente solo hubo una razon por la que sugeri eso
01:51 LZD: no lo veo "especial"
01:51 LZD: aunque un kkkdddk ya ves tu que comun
01:51 Hanjamon: y es que kkkdddk suele ser dificil para kddk
01:51 LZD: por?
01:52 LZD: que se jodan
01:52 LZD: xDDDD
01:52 LZD: prefiero un map underweight que uno overweigth
01:52 Hanjamon: xDDD
01:52 Hanjamon: voy a probar algo
01:52 LZD: oki
01:53 Hanjamon: vale nada
01:53 Hanjamon: es que como el sonido de fondo no es 100% accurate
01:53 Hanjamon: dije, a ver si va a ser un 1/3?
01:54 Hanjamon: no me hagas caso
01:54 Hanjamon: xD
01:56 Hanjamon: oye
01:56 Hanjamon: vi una inconsistencia (?????
01:57 LZD: cuala?
01:57 Hanjamon: no se como no me di cuenta en su momento
01:57 LZD: cual cual
01:57 Hanjamon: 04:31:501 - ves que aqui los kk pegan con las vocals, no?
01:57 LZD: dimelo ya que tengo reuma de esperar
01:57 Hanjamon: 04:44:660 -
01:57 Hanjamon: why not here
01:58 LZD: oh shit
01:58 Hanjamon: xDD
02:01 Hanjamon: en el caso de que lo arregles, de añade notas en 02:09:751 - 02:09:819 - 02:09:887 - 02:10:296 - 02:10:365 - 02:10:433 - para consistencia con 02:05:319 -
02:01 Hanjamon: por eso digo que yo soy mas obsesivo con ello xD
02:02 LZD: ahora te leo que estoy a 3 bandas
02:03 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDD
02:03 Hanjamon: ahora vengo
02:05 LZD: buena paja
02:05 LZD: xDDDd
02:05 LZD: estas seguro de eses segundo suggestion en el primer kiai?
02:06 LZD: lo voy a aplicar, postealo si quieres kd
02:06 LZD: me ha servido de mucho esta charla
02:11 Hanjamon: seguro? xD
02:11 Hanjamon: y bueno, el primer kiai como quieras
02:11 Hanjamon: el del tercero lo aplicaste?
02:12 LZD: wait
02:12 LZD: aun no he aplicado nada
02:13 Hanjamon: oki, ahi me dices ya que no quiero postear sin saber si te ha servido xD
02:16 LZD: hmmm que hago con esto? 04:45:683 -
02:16 LZD: me refiero al primer suggest que me diste en el stream largo
02:17 Hanjamon: con eso nada xD me referia a que era lo mismo que en 04:44:592 -
02:17 Hanjamon: pero en 04:44:592 - no hiciste lo mismo de los kkkkkkkkkkk
02:18 Hanjamon: 04:44:660 (285,286,287,288,289) - k y esto tambien 04:45:206 (293,294,295,297) -
02:18 Hanjamon: a eso me referia
02:19 Hanjamon: o algo similar
02:19 LZD: 04:45:683 - pero ahi originalmente tengo kkkkddkkkkkkk
02:19 LZD: y si pongo como en 04:44:592 -
02:19 LZD: pues se queda mucho chorizo de k y no se le da importancia aningun sonido
02:20 Hanjamon: siempre puedes volver 04:45:751 (301,302,303,304,305) - a d
02:20 Hanjamon: o no se
02:20 LZD: ah ya como dices tu, queda tambien mucho dd entre cada longaniza de katsus
02:20 LZD: eso hice la verdad
02:20 LZD: lo ultimo que me dijiste
02:20 LZD: cuando te dije, 04:45:683 - con esto que, ya lo tenia hecho asi xDDD
02:21 Hanjamon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8381425
02:21 Hanjamon: xD
02:21 LZD: pero para saber tu opinion tambien
02:22 LZD: de quie te ries?
02:22 LZD: >:(
02:22 Hanjamon: de nada (? era para que vieses a que me refiero en concreto
02:23 LZD: si lo tenemos igual carapancia
02:23 LZD: xDDDDD
02:23 Hanjamon: ah coñio
02:23 LZD: vale ahora lo qu emas me va a doler, el primer kiai
02:23 Hanjamon: oh si no
02:24 Hanjamon: 02:09:956 (46,47,48,49,50) - kkkkk o kkkkd
02:25 LZD: es que, me has dicho para que sea consistente con 02:05:319 -
02:25 LZD: pero es que son patrones diferentes
02:26 Hanjamon: si, pero si realmente quieres dejar un descanso puedes cambiar esos 5plet
02:26 Hanjamon: a como serian sin ser largos
02:26 LZD: en donde me dices de poner notas serian, kkkkkkddkkkkkkkkdd
02:26 LZD: y no kkkkkkddkkddkkddk
02:26 Hanjamon: hmmmm
02:28 LZD: pero en el primer kiai si tengo mapeado el kkkkkkddkkkkkkkkddk
02:28 LZD: y mas alante no
02:28 LZD: porque mas alante, tengo mucho ddddddddddddkdddddddddddddkdddddddddk antes d eel
02:28 Hanjamon: como ya he dicho si quieres dejar eso como momento de descanso 02:09:956 (46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55) -
02:29 Hanjamon: kkkkk y kkkkd si que encajan a como seria
02:29 Hanjamon: es o eso o mapearlo como habia sugerido anteriormente
02:30 LZD: para que encaje seria kkddk kkkkd
02:30 LZD: xDDDD
02:30 LZD: no ves como estoy enfermo
02:30 Hanjamon: :thinking:
02:30 Hanjamon: pues
02:30 Hanjamon: si
02:30 Hanjamon: pues eso, si quieres un momento de rest solo cambia esos
02:31 Hanjamon: o si te da igual eso
02:31 Hanjamon: y quieres la maxima consistencia los mapeas xD
02:32 LZD: no son horas para pensar
02:32 LZD: pero si lo dejo para mañana me olvido
02:32 LZD: xD
02:33 Hanjamon: xD
02:33 Hanjamon: dejalos en kkddk kkkkd
02:33 Hanjamon: descanso mas consistencia de pattern
02:33 LZD: los voy a mapear
02:33 LZD: jAAJA
02:33 LZD: justo te leo
02:33 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDD
02:33 Hanjamon: PUES A QUE ESPERAS
02:33 Hanjamon: que no te decides!
02:35 LZD: 02:09:206 (38,39,40) - delete y añadir los kkkkkkddkkkkkkd?
02:35 Hanjamon: si lo haces sera del todo consistente con 02:00:683 -
02:35 Hanjamon: a ver es tu mapa, pero yo estas cosas ya las hubiese hecho sin pensarlo xD
02:36 LZD: hay muchas posibilidades aqui
02:36 LZD: por eso no me doy decidido
02:36 LZD: puedo mantenerlo ez con descansos
02:36 LZD: o ir a por consistencia
02:37 LZD: y no se cual de las 2 tienes mayor peso ahora mismo porque el map ya tiene un puto año
02:37 Hanjamon: dejame mirarlo bien
02:38 Hanjamon: ok, mi ultima decision
02:38 Hanjamon: aunque posiblemente puedan decierte de cambiarlo y tal
02:39 LZD: la gente quejandose del stream largo y aun le añado mas al primero
02:39 LZD: dime soy todo orejas
02:39 Hanjamon: ez con descansos para dar tiempo a que se preparen para el siguiente long stream 02:11:319 - ya que antes de la parte "ez" 02:09:956 - hay ya demasiados long streams y la gente ya termina reventada, el ultimo kiai se podria decir que es una excepcion ya que es un poco en plan, con todo el hp que has obtenido a ver si puedes aguantar sin morir
02:40 Hanjamon: es rara mi forma de pensar
02:40 Hanjamon: xD
02:40 LZD: eso mismo pienso yo del ultimo kiai
02:40 LZD: por eso no quiero hacer ese muy killer
02:41 LZD: kkddk kkkkd in da jaus
02:41 Hanjamon: exacto xD
02:42 Hanjamon: algo mas que no te convezca del mapa?
02:43 LZD: el nombre del creador
02:43 LZD: xDDDDDD
02:43 Hanjamon: xDDD
02:43 LZD: lo updatedo, no se si me queda algo de lo que me dijiste
02:43 Hanjamon: 01:46:637 - lo de
02:43 LZD: pero si te acuerdas y puedes mira los kiais ahi en un abrir y cerrar de ojos
02:43 Hanjamon: lo hiciste?
02:44 LZD: se
02:44 Hanjamon: 04:21:615 - ?
02:44 LZD: si
02:44 Hanjamon: oki, updateo y veo si te quedo guay
02:44 Hanjamon: dem, subio el sr?
02:44 Hanjamon: 04:44:660 - al final lo dejaste tal cual
02:45 Hanjamon: ah
02:45 LZD: ni me acuerdo cuanto tenia antes
02:45 LZD: este map no me importa el sr xDDD
02:45 Hanjamon: que no updateaste xDDDD
02:45 LZD: ese ultimo suggest ya lo veras
02:45 LZD: lo he cambiado a katsus
02:45 LZD: 5,77 stars
02:45 LZD: mis huevos
02:46 Hanjamon: es que cuando decias que lo habias updateado pensaba que era que lo habias subido ya xD
02:46 LZD: nono
02:46 LZD: le llevara 5 min o asi
02:46 Hanjamon: pero si solo updatea el .osu
02:46 LZD: comor?
02:46 LZD: tengo que subir el beatmap
02:47 Hanjamon: pero al solo haber cambiado algo de la diff solo se updatea eso
02:47 Hanjamon: te lo digo por experiencia xD
02:47 LZD: pues tienes razon
02:47 LZD: xDDDD
02:47 Hanjamon: veamos
02:48 Hanjamon: pues
02:48 Hanjamon: las 4 secciones estan perfects
02:49 LZD: ok
02:49 LZD: no me he colado en ningunda debido al cansancio
02:49 LZD: bien
02:49 Hanjamon: quieres que postee?
02:50 LZD: si que se vea que se han hecho cambios
02:50 Hanjamon: oki, aclarare que es un mod "nuevo" debido a que ha pasado 1 año xD

Did a irc mod with LZD in the Inner Oni, as the other mod of mine was 1 year ago, consider this as a "new mod".
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LZD

Hanjamon wrote:

irc mod, you will get bored reading this
2017-06-19 01:19 LZD: tienes un mom para hablar de nuestro salvador jesus?
2017-06-19 01:19 LZD: digo de mi map de jikininki
2017-06-19 01:19 LZD: xD
2017-06-19 01:20 Hanjamon: xDDD si, espera un momento
2017-06-19 01:21 LZD: :Dç
2017-06-19 01:21 LZD: estoy pensando cambiar el super estream por unos burst un tanto diferentes
2017-06-19 01:22 Hanjamon: voy al editor
2017-06-19 01:22 Hanjamon: digame
2017-06-19 01:22 LZD: 01:48:956 - estas en k
2017-06-19 01:22 LZD: lo del stream era bromis
2017-06-19 01:22 LZD: xDDD
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: 01:46:774 - para que tenga constancia con esta
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: te he asustao
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: es tu mapa (?
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: pues
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: no me habia fijado en ese detalle
2017-06-19 01:23 Hanjamon: aplicalo xD
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: tampoco lo veo mal en D
2017-06-19 01:23 LZD: pero en K iria mejor
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: y fruko ha testeado el map y me ha sugerido quitar los finishers al final de streams
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: sobretodo 01:46:774 -
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: lo testearia yo pero tengo fingerlock y no me sale el tricky ese xd
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: testearlo sin esta nota 01:46:706 -
2017-06-19 01:24 LZD: o sin las 3 notas anteriores
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: a ver
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: para ddkk/kkdd ese finisher es ez pz
2017-06-19 01:25 LZD: lo se
2017-06-19 01:25 LZD: pero yo recuerdo que me salia
2017-06-19 01:25 LZD: xD
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: si no
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: haz la tactica que hago yo
2017-06-19 01:25 Hanjamon: 01:46:706 - eliminar
2017-06-19 01:26 Hanjamon: aunque haya sonido eliminar la nota anterior
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: esa es una de las soluciones
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: pero no la puedo testear
2017-06-19 01:26 Hanjamon: wait
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: y la verdad, no tengo en la cabeza "bua finisher al final de stream queda feo"
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: a no ser que sea muy jodido no tenia pensado quitarlo
2017-06-19 01:26 Hanjamon: ehm, tengo el osu bugeado
2017-06-19 01:26 LZD: o.o
2017-06-19 01:27 Hanjamon: espera
01:28 Hanjamon: tio
01:28 Hanjamon: que se me habia activado una especie de hack para osu
01:29 Hanjamon: suerte que soy buena gente y no lo he aprovechado el bug
01:29 Hanjamon: le daba a la tecla d y se me cambiaba la velocidad del mapa, en otras palabras, podria haber fceado galaxy collapse xD
01:29 LZD: wtf
01:29 LZD: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
01:29 LZD: mennock 2
01:30 Hanjamon: xDDDD
01:31 LZD: cuando puedas ir al editor avisame
01:31 Hanjamon: a eso voy, ya has visto que estaba actualizando maps xD
01:31 LZD: si xDDD
01:32 Hanjamon: pasa minuto
01:32 Hanjamon: porfa
01:33 LZD: 04:27:956 -
01:33 LZD: ahora tenia pillado ese
01:34 LZD: que tambien era otra cosa, se nos paso que en la muzu eso va don
01:34 LZD: 01:46:774 -
01:34 LZD: lo del stream*
01:34 Hanjamon: se juega bien sin 01:46:706 -
01:34 Hanjamon: no se nota el beat
01:34 LZD: pues se lo quito
01:34 LZD: y ahora lo de los K de despues
01:35 LZD: la cosa es que tiene conflicto con la muzu y futsuu
01:35 LZD: que ahi hay don
01:35 Hanjamon: realmente
01:35 Hanjamon: a ver
01:36 Hanjamon: otra solucion
01:36 LZD: puedo modificar la muzu, pero la futsuu es mas complicado
01:36 Hanjamon: seria cambiar 01:46:569 - a d y 01:46:637 - a k para que el D fluya bien en 01:46:774 -
01:36 Hanjamon: en la inner
01:37 LZD: terminar el stream en kdk y luego un K?
01:37 Hanjamon: un D
01:38 Hanjamon: pero
01:38 Hanjamon: no se
01:38 LZD: ya
01:38 Hanjamon: es que
01:38 Hanjamon: no es lo mismo
01:38 LZD: la nota anterior al D es un d
01:38 LZD: y pide un K
01:38 LZD: lo pide
01:38 LZD: XDDDd
01:39 Hanjamon: mira sabes que
01:39 LZD: a grito pelao
01:39 LZD: delete mapset
01:39 Hanjamon: yo creo que no hace daño que sean diferentes
01:39 Hanjamon: ya que el K tambien va bien con el flow
01:39 LZD: sep
01:39 Hanjamon: y es diferente sonido a 01:48:956 -
01:39 Hanjamon: por lo que solo usa K en la vocal anterior
01:39 LZD: lo que pasa es que en cada diff me ciño a un instrumento
01:39 LZD: por eso hay que pillar otros sonidos
01:39 LZD: i guess
01:40 Hanjamon: es que en las otras diffs
01:40 Hanjamon: si usas K no fluye tan bien
01:40 Hanjamon: yo soy mucho de si se puede acabar en k D o d K mejor
01:40 LZD: fluye de pena
01:40 LZD: tenemos un aesthethic parecido
01:41 LZD: te voy a tener que volver a dar kd por esto
01:41 Hanjamon: xDDDD que no hombre
01:41 LZD: btw en la muzu estan d d k k D
01:41 Hanjamon: a menos que quieras subirle la priority (?
01:41 Hanjamon: en el mismo sitio?
01:41 LZD: podria ponerlo d d k d K
01:41 LZD: si
01:41 Hanjamon: 01:48:137 - here?
01:41 LZD: pero el d d k d k lo repiro un poco mas alante en la muzu para otro sonido diferente
01:42 LZD: si
01:42 LZD: y mas alante tengo ddk d k
01:42 LZD: con otro sonido diferente
01:42 LZD: no me molaria tener que ponerlos todos ddk d K ddk d k ddk d K
01:42 LZD: muy feo
01:42 Hanjamon: por eso, es decir, tu solo cambiale el K a la Inner
01:43 Hanjamon: pero solo 01:46:774 -
01:43 Hanjamon: no cambies ninguno mas
01:43 Hanjamon: ya que ahi sigue mejor la vocal
01:43 Hanjamon: y lo demas solo instrumental
01:43 Hanjamon: no lo veo tan inconsistente
01:44 LZD: 01:48:956 - este no K?
01:44 LZD: eso me dices?
01:44 LZD: xD
01:44 Hanjamon: exacto
01:44 Hanjamon: dejalo D
01:44 LZD: osea que lo deje como estaba?
01:44 Hanjamon: si
01:44 LZD: ewww
01:44 LZD: :<
01:44 Hanjamon: se a que te referias
01:44 LZD: pero si has dicho que no hacia daño tener diferente la inner
01:44 Hanjamon: no lo hace xD
01:45 Hanjamon: a ver, si lo prefieres K hazlo pero
01:45 Hanjamon: yo creo que 01:46:774 - con K es suficiente
01:45 Hanjamon: los demas finishers se sigue mejor el instrumental con D
01:45 LZD: hasta bien mirando creo que en la muzu 01:46:637 (26,27) - eso ctrlg
01:46 LZD: k ddd d K
01:46 Hanjamon: lo parece xD
01:46 LZD: madre mia y yo queria hablar con surono
01:46 Hanjamon: no te ralles
01:46 Hanjamon: k ddd k D no queda mal en la muzu
01:47 LZD: ahora dudo :s
01:47 LZD: mira dejo todo como estaba
01:47 LZD: y que surono lo mire
01:47 Hanjamon: como prefieras xD
01:47 Hanjamon: pero 01:46:706 -
01:47 Hanjamon: elimina (?
01:47 Hanjamon: solo esa y ya
01:48 LZD: what if
01:48 LZD: ya empiezo
01:48 LZD: siempre dandole vueltas xD
01:48 LZD: acaba el stream en kkkdddk D
01:48 LZD: para hacer todas D
01:48 LZD: estoy enfermo con la puta consistencia
01:48 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDD
01:49 Hanjamon: peor que yo lo dudo
01:49 Hanjamon: dejame testearlo wait
01:49 LZD: no lo sabes tu bien
01:49 LZD: xDDDD
01:49 Hanjamon: no fluye mal
01:49 LZD: ya me gusta lo que me dices yeeeeeeeeee
01:50 Hanjamon: aunque
01:50 Hanjamon: se me ocurre algo
01:50 LZD: pero si me sugieren hacer los K despues
01:50 LZD: dime
01:50 LZD: pero eso si me sugieren eso surono o alguien, tengo soluciones :D
01:50 Hanjamon: 01:46:228 - a 01:46:637 - , que tal te suena kkdkddk?
01:50 LZD: muy chromox
01:50 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
01:51 Hanjamon: kkkdddk queda bien
01:51 Hanjamon: apply bro
01:51 LZD: el de chormoxx querda bien
01:51 LZD: pero no me gusta
01:51 LZD: xDDDD
01:51 Hanjamon: realmente solo hubo una razon por la que sugeri eso
01:51 LZD: no lo veo "especial"
01:51 LZD: aunque un kkkdddk ya ves tu que comun
01:51 Hanjamon: y es que kkkdddk suele ser dificil para kddk
01:51 LZD: por?
01:52 LZD: que se jodan
01:52 LZD: xDDDD
01:52 LZD: prefiero un map underweight que uno overweigth
01:52 Hanjamon: xDDD
01:52 Hanjamon: voy a probar algo
01:52 LZD: oki
01:53 Hanjamon: vale nada
01:53 Hanjamon: es que como el sonido de fondo no es 100% accurate
01:53 Hanjamon: dije, a ver si va a ser un 1/3?
01:54 Hanjamon: no me hagas caso
01:54 Hanjamon: xD
01:56 Hanjamon: oye
01:56 Hanjamon: vi una inconsistencia (?????
01:57 LZD: cuala?
01:57 Hanjamon: no se como no me di cuenta en su momento
01:57 LZD: cual cual
01:57 Hanjamon: 04:31:501 - ves que aqui los kk pegan con las vocals, no?
01:57 LZD: dimelo ya que tengo reuma de esperar
01:57 Hanjamon: 04:44:660 -
01:57 Hanjamon: why not here
01:58 LZD: oh shit
01:58 Hanjamon: xDD
02:01 Hanjamon: en el caso de que lo arregles, de añade notas en 02:09:751 - 02:09:819 - 02:09:887 - 02:10:296 - 02:10:365 - 02:10:433 - para consistencia con 02:05:319 -
02:01 Hanjamon: por eso digo que yo soy mas obsesivo con ello xD
02:02 LZD: ahora te leo que estoy a 3 bandas
02:03 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDDD
02:03 Hanjamon: ahora vengo
02:05 LZD: buena paja
02:05 LZD: xDDDd
02:05 LZD: estas seguro de eses segundo suggestion en el primer kiai?
02:06 LZD: lo voy a aplicar, postealo si quieres kd
02:06 LZD: me ha servido de mucho esta charla
02:11 Hanjamon: seguro? xD
02:11 Hanjamon: y bueno, el primer kiai como quieras
02:11 Hanjamon: el del tercero lo aplicaste?
02:12 LZD: wait
02:12 LZD: aun no he aplicado nada
02:13 Hanjamon: oki, ahi me dices ya que no quiero postear sin saber si te ha servido xD
02:16 LZD: hmmm que hago con esto? 04:45:683 -
02:16 LZD: me refiero al primer suggest que me diste en el stream largo
02:17 Hanjamon: con eso nada xD me referia a que era lo mismo que en 04:44:592 -
02:17 Hanjamon: pero en 04:44:592 - no hiciste lo mismo de los kkkkkkkkkkk
02:18 Hanjamon: 04:44:660 (285,286,287,288,289) - k y esto tambien 04:45:206 (293,294,295,297) -
02:18 Hanjamon: a eso me referia
02:19 Hanjamon: o algo similar
02:19 LZD: 04:45:683 - pero ahi originalmente tengo kkkkddkkkkkkk
02:19 LZD: y si pongo como en 04:44:592 -
02:19 LZD: pues se queda mucho chorizo de k y no se le da importancia aningun sonido
02:20 Hanjamon: siempre puedes volver 04:45:751 (301,302,303,304,305) - a d
02:20 Hanjamon: o no se
02:20 LZD: ah ya como dices tu, queda tambien mucho dd entre cada longaniza de katsus
02:20 LZD: eso hice la verdad
02:20 LZD: lo ultimo que me dijiste
02:20 LZD: cuando te dije, 04:45:683 - con esto que, ya lo tenia hecho asi xDDD
02:21 Hanjamon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8381425
02:21 Hanjamon: xD
02:21 LZD: pero para saber tu opinion tambien
02:22 LZD: de quie te ries?
02:22 LZD: >:(
02:22 Hanjamon: de nada (? era para que vieses a que me refiero en concreto
02:23 LZD: si lo tenemos igual carapancia
02:23 LZD: xDDDDD
02:23 Hanjamon: ah coñio
02:23 LZD: vale ahora lo qu emas me va a doler, el primer kiai
02:23 Hanjamon: oh si no
02:24 Hanjamon: 02:09:956 (46,47,48,49,50) - kkkkk o kkkkd
02:25 LZD: es que, me has dicho para que sea consistente con 02:05:319 -
02:25 LZD: pero es que son patrones diferentes
02:26 Hanjamon: si, pero si realmente quieres dejar un descanso puedes cambiar esos 5plet
02:26 Hanjamon: a como serian sin ser largos
02:26 LZD: en donde me dices de poner notas serian, kkkkkkddkkkkkkkkdd
02:26 LZD: y no kkkkkkddkkddkkddk
02:26 Hanjamon: hmmmm
02:28 LZD: pero en el primer kiai si tengo mapeado el kkkkkkddkkkkkkkkddk
02:28 LZD: y mas alante no
02:28 LZD: porque mas alante, tengo mucho ddddddddddddkdddddddddddddkdddddddddk antes d eel
02:28 Hanjamon: como ya he dicho si quieres dejar eso como momento de descanso 02:09:956 (46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55) -
02:29 Hanjamon: kkkkk y kkkkd si que encajan a como seria
02:29 Hanjamon: es o eso o mapearlo como habia sugerido anteriormente
02:30 LZD: para que encaje seria kkddk kkkkd
02:30 LZD: xDDDD
02:30 LZD: no ves como estoy enfermo
02:30 Hanjamon: :thinking:
02:30 Hanjamon: pues
02:30 Hanjamon: si
02:30 Hanjamon: pues eso, si quieres un momento de rest solo cambia esos
02:31 Hanjamon: o si te da igual eso
02:31 Hanjamon: y quieres la maxima consistencia los mapeas xD
02:32 LZD: no son horas para pensar
02:32 LZD: pero si lo dejo para mañana me olvido
02:32 LZD: xD
02:33 Hanjamon: xD
02:33 Hanjamon: dejalos en kkddk kkkkd
02:33 Hanjamon: descanso mas consistencia de pattern
02:33 LZD: los voy a mapear
02:33 LZD: jAAJA
02:33 LZD: justo te leo
02:33 Hanjamon: xDDDDDDDD
02:33 Hanjamon: PUES A QUE ESPERAS
02:33 Hanjamon: que no te decides!
02:35 LZD: 02:09:206 (38,39,40) - delete y añadir los kkkkkkddkkkkkkd?
02:35 Hanjamon: si lo haces sera del todo consistente con 02:00:683 -
02:35 Hanjamon: a ver es tu mapa, pero yo estas cosas ya las hubiese hecho sin pensarlo xD
02:36 LZD: hay muchas posibilidades aqui
02:36 LZD: por eso no me doy decidido
02:36 LZD: puedo mantenerlo ez con descansos
02:36 LZD: o ir a por consistencia
02:37 LZD: y no se cual de las 2 tienes mayor peso ahora mismo porque el map ya tiene un puto año
02:37 Hanjamon: dejame mirarlo bien
02:38 Hanjamon: ok, mi ultima decision
02:38 Hanjamon: aunque posiblemente puedan decierte de cambiarlo y tal
02:39 LZD: la gente quejandose del stream largo y aun le añado mas al primero
02:39 LZD: dime soy todo orejas
02:39 Hanjamon: ez con descansos para dar tiempo a que se preparen para el siguiente long stream 02:11:319 - ya que antes de la parte "ez" 02:09:956 - hay ya demasiados long streams y la gente ya termina reventada, el ultimo kiai se podria decir que es una excepcion ya que es un poco en plan, con todo el hp que has obtenido a ver si puedes aguantar sin morir
02:40 Hanjamon: es rara mi forma de pensar
02:40 Hanjamon: xD
02:40 LZD: eso mismo pienso yo del ultimo kiai
02:40 LZD: por eso no quiero hacer ese muy killer
02:41 LZD: kkddk kkkkd in da jaus
02:41 Hanjamon: exacto xD
02:42 Hanjamon: algo mas que no te convezca del mapa?
02:43 LZD: el nombre del creador
02:43 LZD: xDDDDDD
02:43 Hanjamon: xDDD
02:43 LZD: lo updatedo, no se si me queda algo de lo que me dijiste
02:43 Hanjamon: 01:46:637 - lo de
02:43 LZD: pero si te acuerdas y puedes mira los kiais ahi en un abrir y cerrar de ojos
02:43 Hanjamon: lo hiciste?
02:44 LZD: se
02:44 Hanjamon: 04:21:615 - ?
02:44 LZD: si
02:44 Hanjamon: oki, updateo y veo si te quedo guay
02:44 Hanjamon: dem, subio el sr?
02:44 Hanjamon: 04:44:660 - al final lo dejaste tal cual
02:45 Hanjamon: ah
02:45 LZD: ni me acuerdo cuanto tenia antes
02:45 LZD: este map no me importa el sr xDDD
02:45 Hanjamon: que no updateaste xDDDD
02:45 LZD: ese ultimo suggest ya lo veras
02:45 LZD: lo he cambiado a katsus
02:45 LZD: 5,77 stars
02:45 LZD: mis huevos
02:46 Hanjamon: es que cuando decias que lo habias updateado pensaba que era que lo habias subido ya xD
02:46 LZD: nono
02:46 LZD: le llevara 5 min o asi
02:46 Hanjamon: pero si solo updatea el .osu
02:46 LZD: comor?
02:46 LZD: tengo que subir el beatmap
02:47 Hanjamon: pero al solo haber cambiado algo de la diff solo se updatea eso
02:47 Hanjamon: te lo digo por experiencia xD
02:47 LZD: pues tienes razon
02:47 LZD: xDDDD
02:47 Hanjamon: veamos
02:48 Hanjamon: pues
02:48 Hanjamon: las 4 secciones estan perfects
02:49 LZD: ok
02:49 LZD: no me he colado en ningunda debido al cansancio
02:49 LZD: bien
02:49 Hanjamon: quieres que postee?
02:50 LZD: si que se vea que se han hecho cambios
02:50 Hanjamon: oki, aclarare que es un mod "nuevo" debido a que ha pasado 1 año xD

Did a irc mod with LZD in the Inner Oni, as the other mod of mine was 1 year ago, consider this as a "new mod".
killing my sleep schedule in a nutshell, thanks a lot dood
frukoyurdakul
Hi, M4M through your queue.

[Timing]

When I was playing it with HD, i've noticed some offset errors. The video link is this if you're interested. (Edit: I forgot to stop the video so no need to watch the editor parts :D)

From what I've found, 01:53:319 - 03:27:137 - (not sure about the last timing but it's definetely after 3 minutes) the notes are coming at least 8 ms late. After that, it gets back to normal and 04:28:228 - on the last stream I suddenly started to hit early again consistently, which means the notes are coming late again, about 8 ms on this spot as well. Consider checking the timing before you'll go further about this.

[General]

Your background size is 1365x768, consider changing it to 1366x768.

[Inner Oni]

00:27:274 (19) - I know you are following the guitar there but the snare sound is very prominent, so I recommend changing this to kat, 00:27:956 (22,23) - these ones too. It'll create variety to the beginning with following drums + guitar together.

00:30:410 (6,7,8,9,10) - I hear sounds on 1/6 gaps as well, maybe you can fill it with dons in order to follow the low-pitch guitar sounds.

00:52:092 (69) - How about a kat here? The snare sound is prominent enough to change it to kat in my opinion, but since you're following guitar I think this can be skippable.

01:32:183 (145) - How about changing this to kat or don finisher? There is a snare sound with china cymbal (or crash, i can't tell exactly) which can support the kat or don finisher.

02:38:046 (30) - Finisher here? Support the crash cymbal + create a good ending for the calm part.

03:13:956 - Is there a special reason to skip this prominent kick sound? My suggestion would be adding a don because it's so strong, and it will be consistent with 03:18:319 (51) - this.

03:29:592 - Since you are following guitar, you can add a don here because I can hear a guitar pick which has exactly the same note with 03:29:501 (29) - this.

03:44:592 (179,180,181,182,183) - I can't hear a 1/4 sound here, I hear 1/6 between 03:44:592 (179,180) - those two (which you can map it as dkd due to the guitar pitch which is going low-high-low) and 1/3 to the rest. It feels good but doesn't support the sounds.

04:15:683 (241,242) - Ctrl + g? The snare sound is on 242nd note. If you apply this, you need to swap 01:32:046 (144,145) - those two too, in order to keep consistency.

04:28:228 - Please don't change that stream, I loved it!

That's all for this difficulty. Remember, the changes you've made could be applied more than once in the song, I couldn't wrote them all so you need to check the similiar parts.

[Raiden's Oni]

00:50:933 - How about adding a don? You used 5-plet patterns before and you can use one here too, because of the twin pedal drum sounds.

00:52:092 - I strongly recommend adding a kat, the snare sound is prominent enough to do so.

01:11:865 - I'm not sure about the guest diff difficulty spread issue, but in Inner Oni, this section have only 1/1 notes and with this way it doesn't fit the highest diff.

01:14:387 - 01:14:933 - You can add notes to these gaps, the guitar sound is triple picks and the drums are twin pedal, which means there are sounds that support adding notes to these spots. If you apply this, 01:18:410 - same suggestion for this section as well.

01:22:978 (12) - I don't hear any drum or guitar sound there, you can delete it to follow the sounds better.

01:27:206 (13) - ^ (except the long guitar sound)

01:36:342 (4) - How about deleting this note? There is no guitar sound on it thus no need for a 5-plet pattern.

01:53:319 - That part is way different with Inner Oni. On your diff it only includes 1/1 finishers when the Inner Oni have endless streams. I don't think it doesn't fit the difficulty spread even if it's a guest diff.

02:24:069 (9) - Delete? There is no guitar sound on it.

03:08:593 (7) - The kick sound you've followed on 03:07:501 (1,4) - these notes exist as well, so change 1 or 4 to kat in order to follow the snare, or change 7 to don in order to follow the kick sound.

03:22:410 (61,62,63,64,65) - How about ddddk ? The first 4 sounds are kicks and the last one contains a ride cymbal sound, which can be supported by kat + it'll support the higher-pitch guitar sound too.

03:36:137 (147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154) - 5-plets will work better I think, since you've mapped 03:37:683 (157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166) - these ones as like that.

03:41:501 - Missing a note?

03:48:956 - Same suggestion I did for the similiar part before.

03:55:228 (28) - I'd change this one to don, since the drums have pretty low pitch.

03:59:728 - These inherited points look weird, maybe fix them?

04:28:228 - Same thing with the first part of this song.

That's all for this difficulty.

[Muzukashii]

Your SV is bugged, change it back to 1.4 from the file and check the sliders if they have the last ticks.



01:00:137 (130) - A triplet kats in 1/4? Not that hard for Muzukashii players + will support the snares a lot better.

01:32:183 (85,86) - Ctrl + g those two and 01:32:319 (86) - delete this one. Will support the sounds better, the 4th note seems extra.

01:41:046 (38) - Move to 01:40:910 - here and 01:40:774 (37,38) - ctrl + g? Follows the melody better in that way.

01:53:319 - Just because you didn't use finishers on your highest diff doesn't mean you need to avoid on this spot. I believe you can add finishers to some measure starts and ends like 01:53:319 (56) - 01:55:501 (68) - 01:57:683 (80) - or so on. Plus, the kiai doesn't seem more intense, I think you can add some 1/4 monopatterns.

03:39:137 - Not sure about this slider. The notes are coming in 2/3 and 1/3 snaps and players might miss a 1/4 snapped slider here. Change it back to normal notes maybe? Will create a better flow.

04:07:092 (91,92) - Same suggestion with before.

04:15:683 (37,38) - Same suggestion before.

04:28:228 - Same things about the first kiai.

[Futsuu]

00:27:274 (38) - Hmm, not sure for a Futsuu diff but I think you can change this one to kat in order to support the snare sound.

00:52:092 - Add a kat here? The snare sound is very prominent to do so.

03:04:319 - ^

03:09:683 - Starting from here, the 1/1 mono color notes are too many. You may vary this part a bit by changing some notes to don.

Same suggestions applies to similiar parts if you accept any of them.

[Nwolf's Kantan]

01:32:046 (9) - How about deleting this one and 01:32:319 (10) - moving this one to 01:32:183 - here? Since you used notes on red ticks I think you can do it on this spot too, in order to follow the prominent sounds better.

01:40:774 (28,29) - ^

If you accept any of these suggestions, don't forget to change the similiar parts too.

Nice map, nice song! I'd like to see one more ranked Whispered song. Good luck, and I hope my mod helped!
davidminh0111
Hey LZD, from your M4M queue

[Inner Oni]
00:18:819: Unrankable slider, too short

00:27:546: ^

00:30:274: Chang to k to fit the pitch

00:37:637: k to make a consistency in 00:37:092

02:38:046: How a bout a finisher here, Strong emphasis, rankable

02:57:137:Change to d? k isn't follow the vocal pitch

03:10:228: ^ (Slow down the song and you will get it)

03:39:683: Big K? Strong emphasis

03:46:774: Big D here, ^

04:03:683: This seven circle stream is annoying and no reason to put it in. Consider remove a note in 04:03:887

04:12:615: ^

04:15:956: k here to make a unity in 04:10:910

That's all issue I found Imo
Sorry for mod only 1 diff because your song is too loud, I don't know how to mod this much
GL on ranking, LDZ
Topic Starter
LZD

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hi, M4M through your queue.

SPOILER
[Timing]

When I was playing it with HD, i've noticed some offset errors. The video link is this if you're interested. (Edit: I forgot to stop the video so no need to watch the editor parts :D)

From what I've found, 01:53:319 - 03:27:137 - (not sure about the last timing but it's definetely after 3 minutes) the notes are coming at least 8 ms late. After that, it gets back to normal and 04:28:228 - on the last stream I suddenly started to hit early again consistently, which means the notes are coming late again, about 8 ms on this spot as well. Consider checking the timing before you'll go further about this. after checking it exahustively i didnt find it really relevant issues with timing even told about this with raiden and he didnt see any problem

[General]

Your background size is 1365x768, consider changing it to 1366x768. fixed ty

[Inner Oni]

00:27:274 (19) - I know you are following the guitar there but the snare sound is very prominent, so I recommend changing this to kat, 00:27:956 (22,23) - these ones too. It'll create variety to the beginning with following drums + guitar together. in editor looks good and all, but having a kkddK isnt the most fun to play, idk if to keep all this two suggestions as before or change them. I'll change it for now

00:30:410 (6,7,8,9,10) - I hear sounds on 1/6 gaps as well, maybe you can fill it with dons in order to follow the low-pitch guitar sounds. i'll keep it because i dont want to make it more complex to play

00:52:092 (69) - How about a kat here? The snare sound is prominent enough to change it to kat in my opinion, but since you're following guitar I think this can be skippable. keeping it to make sure it comes from a higher pitch and then its followed by a higher pitch too

01:32:183 (145) - How about changing this to kat or don finisher? There is a snare sound with china cymbal (or crash, i can't tell exactly) which can support the kat or don finisher. looks cool

02:38:046 (30) - Finisher here? Support the crash cymbal + create a good ending for the calm part. added

03:13:956 - Is there a special reason to skip this prominent kick sound? My suggestion would be adding a don because it's so strong, and it will be consistent with 03:18:319 (51) - this. the reason behind this is to make scalable difficulty, even tho a ddd k & ddddk wont make any difference into an inner oni it gives more emphasize to the parte after this 03:18:046 (48,49,50,51,52) -

03:29:592 - Since you are following guitar, you can add a don here because I can hear a guitar pick which has exactly the same note with 03:29:501 (29) - this. not applied because im almost sure it is a sound from the second guitar, and only hearable with 25% playback rate, and btw, the same saound repeats here 03:29:774 - , but as i said, only hearable with 25% i think this doesnt need to be mapped. Also leaving it as it is now, it will emphasize more the previous an the next 1/4 patterns

03:44:592 (179,180,181,182,183) - I can't hear a 1/4 sound here, I hear 1/6 between 03:44:592 (179,180) - those two (which you can map it as dkd due to the guitar pitch which is going low-high-low) and 1/3 to the rest. It feels good but doesn't support the sounds. not applied because, using that dkd as you say it will become it into a tricky stream, nothing intuitive for a player, but on top of that, i dont hear the 1/6s at all, it clearly has an 1/4 burst from the guitar sound

04:15:683 (241,242) - Ctrl + g? The snare sound is on 242nd note. If you apply this, you need to swap 01:32:046 (144,145) - those two too, in order to keep consistency. same as before in your mod, added a k here 04:15:819 -

04:28:228 - Please don't change that stream, I loved it! it is the soul of the map!

That's all for this difficulty. Remember, the changes you've made could be applied more than once in the song, I couldn't wrote them all so you need to check the similiar parts.

[Muzukashii]

Your SV is bugged, change it back to 1.4 from the file and check the sliders if they have the last ticks. didnt know how to fix ty



01:00:137 (130) - A triplet kats in 1/4? Not that hard for Muzukashii players + will support the snares a lot better. i will keep it simple, and since it has a different element such a slider afterwards i dont want to make it too complicated

01:32:183 (85,86) - Ctrl + g those two and 01:32:319 (86) - delete this one. Will support the sounds better, the 4th note seems extra. didnt delete the 86th note and put both as k to make consistency with inner oni

01:41:046 (38) - Move to 01:40:910 - here and 01:40:774 (37,38) - ctrl + g? Follows the melody better in that way. added

01:53:319 - Just because you didn't use finishers on your highest diff doesn't mean you need to avoid on this spot. I believe you can add finishers to some measure starts and ends like 01:53:319 (56) - 01:55:501 (68) - 01:57:683 (80) - or so on. Plus, the kiai doesn't seem more intense, I think you can add some 1/4 monopatterns. added some finishers, but im still skeptical about adding 1/4s here, the sv, the ammount of 1/2s already and the new applied finisher i think they already have a good intense part, but ill give it a try to add some 1/4s

03:39:137 - Not sure about this slider. The notes are coming in 2/3 and 1/3 snaps and players might miss a 1/4 snapped slider here. Change it back to normal notes maybe? Will create a better flow. understandable, changed to notes

04:07:092 (91,92) - Same suggestion with before. same reply :^)

04:15:683 (37,38) - Same suggestion before. same reply

04:28:228 - Same things about the first kiai. same applies

[Futsuu]

00:27:274 (38) - Hmm, not sure for a Futsuu diff but I think you can change this one to kat in order to support the snare sound. 00:27:410 (39) - deleted this one to make it simplier

00:52:092 - Add a kat here? The snare sound is very prominent to do so. not applied in order to keep consistency with other difficulties

03:04:319 - ^ oke

03:09:683 - Starting from here, the 1/1 mono color notes are too many. You may vary this part a bit by changing some notes to don. i kept it simple because it doesnt differ too much from muzukashii, staying with all k will make it slightly easier than muzu

Same suggestions applies to similiar parts if you accept any of them.


If you accept any of these suggestions, don't forget to change the similiar parts too.

Nice map, nice song! I'd like to see one more ranked Whispered song. Good luck, and I hope my mod helped!

davidminh0111 wrote:

SPOILER
Hey LZD, from your M4M queue

[Inner Oni]
00:18:819: Unrankable slider, too short dissagree, even told about this with hanjamon, this is not a unrankable issue

00:27:546: ^ same

00:30:274: Chang to k to fit the pitch its a different pitch

00:37:637: k to make a consistency in 00:37:092 it isnt the same musical pattern

02:38:046: How a bout a finisher here, Strong emphasis, rankable added

02:57:137:Change to d? k isn't follow the vocal pitch are you serious? there isnt voices here

03:10:228: ^ (Slow down the song and you will get it) same, no vocals

03:39:683: Big K? Strong emphasis not that strong imo

03:46:774: Big D here, ^ i dont like to abuse finishers at the end of streams, and this one is not that monocoloured to add there a finisher

04:03:683: This seven circle stream is annoying and no reason to put it in. Consider remove a note in 04:03:887 enough tripplets this section,
but deleted this one 04:03:751 (108) -


04:12:615: ^ same

04:15:956: k here to make a unity in 04:10:910 not even the same music pattern

That's all issue I found Imo
Sorry for mod only 1 diff because your song is too loud, I don't know how to mod this much
GL on ranking, LDZ
Ty both
Aisha
Hola! Acá va mi mod, usaré inglés sólo cuando sea necesario (sólo porque se nos hace más cómodo a los dos xD)

[General]
  1. Quizás suene un poco raro, pero revisando la carpeta del mapa la imagen se llama algo de '1920x1080', sin embargo es 1365x768. Quizás quieras revisar esto (a pesar que sea rankeable)
    ^edit: no se me cambió al actualizar con tu mod aplicado arriba xD. Skip!
  2. No te parece mejor usar 90 y 70 con los volúmenes? La canción en sí suena bastante fuerte y sería bastante bueno que se escucharan un poco más los tambores. Especialmente en la sección de 00:15:137 - donde apenas se puede diferenciar un tambor de la canción (Kantan por ejemplo)
  3. ^ ojalá usar similares en todas las dificultades, pero depende de ti :p
[Nwolf's Kantan]
  1. Why does Kantan have HP 5 considering Fut even Muzu are using 6? It's a little strange to see high difficulties with less HP than Kantan. Also I think current map is way 'hard' (almost 2*) so HP could be something like 7 imo
  2. 00:40:228 (18,19,20,21,22,23) - isn't this pattern a little hard compared to the rest of this section? I mean you're using monocolour 1/1 notes on others then there 2 dynamic colour in a row (also considering the songbpm)
  3. 01:09:683 (18,19) - I think you should ctrl+g these according to pitches. First one is lower than second imo
  4. 02:49:501 (12) - give a try to kat note here so you can emphatise better next don (according to descendant rhythm)
  5. 03:09:683 - can be just me, but it's a little strange too see a section considered not that fast according to the rest of the song without a single 4/1 break (until 03:24:956 - ). It's really well mapped and notes fills great, but it's a little strange overall
[Futsuu]
  1. Por qué no usas 1.2/1.4 SV en la Futsuu? La mayoría de los Futsuu players son players que recién vienen intentando hacer algo mejor que Kantan, pero al ver esta velocidad quizás les costaría mucho. A todo esto fíjate en la SV: SliderMultiplier:1.39999997138977 en la carpeta :p
  2. De acuerdo a esto ^ prefiriría (personal y para players) que no hagas cambios de SV en esta diff a pesar que sean legibles
  3. 01:09:683 (114,115) - mismo comentario que en la Kantan. También le da un buen énfasis a la siguiente nota :p
  4. 01:47:319 (20,21,22) -01:49:501 (24,25,26) - 01:51:683 (28,29,30) - se siente un poco raro al jugar que los 3 patrones sean k k k siendo que el tono de la melodía varía entre ellos, podrías probar algún otro patrón acá
  5. 01:51:683 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37) - también se siente un poco raro que hayan tantos kat seguidos, calzan bien con la canción a mi gusto, pero no es malo darle un poco de variabilidad (y mejor jugabilidad/entretención). aplica en otras partes en la diff, pero depende de ti
  6. 03:09:683 - especialmente acá (más que en la sección anterior a mi gusto)
[Muzukashii]
  1. 01:08:183 - creo que podrías colocar un don acá y empezar el slider en 01:08:319 - así no corta tanto el ritmo de la batería que vienes suigiendo
  2. 01:09:683 (1,2) - ^ ^
  3. 01:48:137 - el patrón d d k se vuelve muy recurrente, no está mal mappeado pero tantas repeticiones queda un poco aburrido imo, un poco de variabilidad (que no afecte tanto tu mapstyle) no vendría mal
  4. 02:40:774 (71) - siento que esta nota podría fillear mejor como don, no tiene el mismo tono que las 3 anteriores y también sigue el ritmo descendente (también 02:44:592 (80) - ). k d k d patrón igual calza bien
  5. 03:09:683 - siento que en esta sección le podrías dar un poco más de acción, es similar a 02:52:228 - incluso con más instrumentos. Incluso siento que hacer los dos patrones al revés calzaría mejor
[Raiden's Oni]
  1. SliderMultiplier:1.39999991989136 :arrow: 1.4
  2. El final del kiai 04:52:214 - está unsnapped :p
  3. 00:56:592 (62,63) - siento que estas notas podrían ser mejor como D D considerando que en 00:55:774 (59,60,61) - sigues la guitarra (o bueno, el sonido que está claro) y acá es el drum (tonos diferentes)
  4. 01:54:410 (3) - no soy de sugerir repeticiones, pero siento que como D (tal como 01:58:774 (11) - ) calza mucho mejor, el D K K K le quita un poco de énfasis a la cuarta nota que es un kick bien grande
  5. 03:00:956 (1) - mmm no sé si esta nota realmente necesite un finisher. Creo que no es tan fuerte como para serla (considerando que sigues guitarra). También en la repetición no la usas 03:14:047 (23) -, quizás se te pasó no sé xD
Bueno eso sería mi mod, el mapá está exquisito xD. Suerte para ti! Ojalá te sirva!

pd. Cambié de map en mi request por si acaso :P
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