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Kobaryo - Kumo No Kireme [feat. Kourin.] [Taiko]

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Kurokotei
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 4 septembre 2016 at 16:48:52

Artist: Kobaryo
Title: Kumo No Kireme [feat. Kourin.]
Tags: psycho filth records chaotic solutions speedcore backfire xtrem3x
BPM: 256
Filesize: 5233kb
Play Time: 03:21
Difficulties Available:
  1. 3x's Inner Oni (6,2 stars, 1205 notes)
  2. Futsuu (2,5 stars, 516 notes)
  3. Hell Oni (7,35 stars, 1461 notes)
  4. Infinite Apocalypse (8,79 stars, 1883 notes)
  5. Kantan (1,59 stars, 293 notes)
  6. Muzukashii (3,59 stars, 749 notes)
  7. Oni (4,82 stars, 960 notes)
Download: Kobaryo - Kumo No Kireme [feat. Kourin.]
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Infinite Apocalypse is a collab with Backfire
3x's Inner Oni by xtrem3x

Download old Infinite Apocalypse here! (thanks to Ikkun for finding it after all those years and B0tch3d for contacting them!)
Download 3x's Hell Oni here!
Ikkun

nyee
S a n d

Am I late for party?
Topic Starter
Kurokotei
Revived because I can
Kuro
I could only pass with HP 4
I'm such a scrub

ptar124
Oh lol 8.79 Infinite Apocalypse, well anyways, from pm M4M request!

Oni

00:37:836 (110,111,112) - I heard the melody go up here, maybe make it d-d-k, d-k-k or k-k-k?
01:01:860 (277) - don?, I think the drop doesn't start until 278

Muzukashii

00:34:203 - I hear a note hear but both a don and a kat would fit here
00:41:703 - ^
00:45:453 - ^
02:15:453 - ^
02:15:102 (416) - don? the melody does seem to get lower
02:15:571 (418) - kat like other parts of the song?
02:16:977 (426) - ^^
02:17:446 (429) - I know you're following the beat but I think it's better off following the melody so, kat?
02:18:852 (437) - ^^
02:19:321 (440) - ^^
02:22:602 (460) - ^^
02:24:477 (471) - ^^
02:23:071 (463) - ^^
02:26:352 (483) - ^^
02:26:821 (486) - ^^
The same for next parts(?)

Futsuu

00:29:867 - (just asking lmao) why is there a space here?
01:05:258 (154) - maybe move that to 01:05:141 ?
01:09:008 (162) - ^

Kantan

Looks fine to me, assuming that the whole set is a notch harder than normal maps.

General

01:08:071 to 01:13:696 - I think you might want to add kiai here as well

Well, normally I would give more mods in Oni, Futsuu and Kantan but given that you're quite experienced already, I'll assume that you know what you're doing and I shouldn't interfere too much :)
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

ptar124 wrote:

Oh lol 8.79 Infinite Apocalypse, well anyways, from pm M4M request!

Oni

00:37:836 (110,111,112) - I heard the melody go up here, maybe make it d-d-k, d-k-k or k-k-k? changed to kkd to be consistent with 00:41:586 (143,144,145) -
01:01:860 (277) - don?, I think the drop doesn't start until 278 following the kick here so k is better imo

Muzukashii

00:34:203 - I hear a note hear but both a don and a kat would fit here it's intentional, since it would be pretty intense for a Muzu otherwise (don't forget that the BPM is 256) also it helps to mark a difference between the first and the second kiai
00:41:703 - ^ ^
00:45:453 - ^ ^
02:15:453 - ^ added for consistency
02:15:102 (416) - don? the melody does seem to get lower imo the pitch change isn't significative enough to put a d there
02:15:571 (418) - kat like other parts of the song? beat is pronominent there so no
02:16:977 (426) - ^^ same as above
02:17:446 (429) - I know you're following the beat but I think it's better off following the melody so, kat? same reason as above
02:18:852 (437) - ^^ same, etc...
02:19:321 (440) - ^^
02:22:602 (460) - ^^
02:24:477 (471) - ^^
02:23:071 (463) - ^^
02:26:352 (483) - ^^
02:26:821 (486) - ^^
The same for next parts(?)

Futsuu

00:29:867 - (just asking lmao) why is there a space here? idk, I think that it would be a bit harsh to put a 1/1 stream there since the song is still kinda calm
01:05:258 (154) - maybe move that to 01:05:141 ? do you want to kill the player? lol
01:09:008 (162) - ^ ^

Kantan

Looks fine to me, assuming that the whole set is a notch harder than normal maps.

General

01:08:071 to 01:13:696 - I think you might want to add kiai here as well short kiai aren't usually recommended, also even if the difficulty peak is there, it doesn't need a kiai imo

Well, normally I would give more mods in Oni, Futsuu and Kantan but given that you're quite experienced already, I'll assume that you know what you're doing and I shouldn't interfere too much :)
Thanks for the mod!
tasuke912
x20

Infinity Apocalypse is now possible to get S.
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

tasuke912 wrote:

x20

Infinity Apocalypse is now possible to get S.
waaaa thanks tasuke >w<
tasuke912


I think this mapset needs one or two more diffs, since difficulty gap between Oni and Infinity Apocalypse is too huge.

Kantan << Futsuu << Muzukashii << Oni <<<<<<<< Infinity
↓ ↓ ↓
Kantan << Futsuu << Muzukashii << Oni <<< Inner Oni <<<<< Infinity
or
Kantan << Futsuu << Muzukashii << Oni << Inner Oni <<< Hell/Crazy Oni <<< Infinity
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

tasuke912 wrote:



I think this mapset needs one or two more diffs, since difficulty gap between Oni and Infinity Apocalypse is too huge.

Kantan << Futsuu << Muzukashii << Oni <<<<<<<< Infinity
↓ ↓ ↓
Kantan << Futsuu << Muzukashii << Oni <<< Inner Oni <<<<< Infinity
or
Kantan << Futsuu << Muzukashii << Oni << Inner Oni <<< Hell/Crazy Oni <<< Infinity
yeah I was thinking of making an Inner Oni, but I don't have much time right now ;w;
xtrem3x
can make inner?
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

xtrem3x wrote:

can make inner?
sure, I'm going to make a Hell Oni then
xtrem3x
well ... done XD Click here
Surono
please bro extrem3x xd
you!1!!1!! lol~!!
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

xtrem3x wrote:

well ... done XD Click here
added, it seems that I don't need to make a Hell Oni after all lol
xtrem3x
snz
I will shoot 1 star for this because i can't mod this ;w;
sorry about this.
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

xtrem3x wrote:

Sure? > Click Here <
are you serious
no I won't add your Hell Oni as I wanted to make one myself lol (I can add it to description if you want tho)
xtrem3x
No problem XD
newyams99
wot
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

newyams99 wrote:

wot
idk
xtrem3x

Sayaka- wrote:

newyams99 wrote:

wot
idk
A mini-update (after a talk something rare with sayaka) -> Click
Surono
ohhh God....
nakanotsu nimi
what is happening..... D:
Topic Starter
Kurokotei
we're back boys
Vulkin
how to rank 8 star maps pls


-3x's Inner Oni-
00:03:617 (5) - cambiar a d por el cambio de tono?

01:07:602 - por que no asi?


01:29:867 (440,441) - Ctrl+G
01:33:149 (449,450) - Ctrl+G
01:36:781 (462) - Borrar esta?

-Hell Oni-
Could follow more the voice tbh
00:23:656 (58) - move to 00:23:774 - ?
01:24:946 (602,603) - Ctrl+G?


Map is pretty good tbh, why it isnt ranked yet? o-o
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

Vulkin wrote:

-Hell Oni-
Could follow more the voice tbh
00:23:656 (58) - move to 00:23:774 - ? yeah it sounds better, moved
01:24:946 (602,603) - Ctrl+G? changed


Map is pretty good tbh, why it isnt ranked yet? o-o
Thanks for the mod!
xtrem3x

Vulkanizado wrote:

-3x's Inner Oni-
00:03:617 (5) - cambiar a d por el cambio de tono? <<< si había pensado en esto ...

01:07:602 - por que no asi? <<< ese era mi pattern antes de bajarla de 6.66 a 6.12 ... supongo que tiene que quedar...


01:29:867 (440,441) - Ctrl+G <<< cambie la 1ra a roja.
01:33:149 (449,450) - Ctrl+G <<< aquí la tonada es obvia.
01:36:781 (462) - Borrar esta? <<< quizas ... lo intentaré.
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Ayyri


I don't like this kind of bribery. ;w;

[3x's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:38:071 - Change to k. I don't think ddd really fits here, considering it's the same rhythm as at 00:36:899 -
  2. 00:39:184 - and 00:39:360 - Ctrl+G. The weird rising sound from 00:39:008 - to 00:39:535 - is rising then falling between each note, so I don't think having D D K K really follows that too well.
  3. 00:46:684 - and 00:46:860 - Same as above. (Or even D K K D works.)
  4. 00:48:852 - and 00:49:086 - Change to k. As small as the sounds are here, I think emphasizing the sounds on these measures would be a nice change from the "d d d d d d.."
  5. 00:52:602 - and 00:52:836 - Same as above.
  6. 00:56:352 - and 00:56:586 - ^
  7. If you did follow the above suggestions, then 01:00:102 - to 01:00:571 - could work as k d k d k as well.
  8. 01:12:758 - If you're following the 1/6 sounds pretty much everywhere else, would it make sense to use 1/6 here too? (The 1/6 ending at 01:12:875 - )
  9. 02:19:321 - Change to k. Same reason as the first time.
  10. 02:20:434 - Change to k. Like in the beginning, I don't think a pattern like dddd fits here, since the last note is higher than the rest of the d's.
  11. 02:27:934 - and 02:28:110 - Same as in the beginning.
  12. 02:30:571 - Change to k. Same as 02:19:321 -
  13. 02:35:317 - and 02:35:434 - Could be changed the k's. Seems weird to have 02:35:610 - and 02:35:785 - as k's but not follow a similar rhythm beforehand.
  14. 02:38:539 - and 02:38:656 - Ctrl+G. At 02:38:656 - kdk doesn't really follow the rhythm nor the melody.
[Hell Oni]
  1. 00:54:594 - and 00:54:711 - Ctrl+G. Fits the rising sound a bit better.
  2. 02:35:434 - and 02:35:610 - Same as above.
hi saya
Topic Starter
Kurokotei

Ayyri wrote:



I don't like this kind of bribery. ;w;

[Hell Oni]
  1. 00:54:594 - and 00:54:711 - Ctrl+G. Fits the rising sound a bit better. hmm, I think DDKK is fine since the pitch rise isn't that significant
  2. 02:35:434 - and 02:35:610 - Same as above. same as above
hi saya hi ari
Thanks for the mod!
xtrem3x
Blue = OK
Red = NO
Green = Undecided / need a 2nd opinion
Orange = Conditional (or partial)
Other color = idk



Ayyri wrote:

[3x's Inner Oni]
  1. 00:38:071 - Change to k. I don't think ddd really fits here, considering it's the same rhythm as at 00:36:899 - <<< no ... is less sound than next blue note. ... But in consideration
  2. 00:39:184 - and 00:39:360 - Ctrl+G. The weird rising sound from 00:39:008 - to 00:39:535 - is rising then falling between each note, so I don't think having D D K K really follows that too well. <<< ok ...
  3. 00:46:684 - and 00:46:860 - Same as above. (Or even D K K D works.) <<< is more fit with D K K K ...
  4. 00:48:852 - and 00:49:086 - Change to k. As small as the sounds are here, I think emphasizing the sounds on these measures would be a nice change from the "d d d d d d.." <<< is possible, but it would not be right because they were combined with the next note and would be confusing what I follow.
  5. 00:52:602 - and 00:52:836 - Same as above. <<< Same
  6. 00:56:352 - and 00:56:586 - ^ <<< Same
  7. If you did follow the above suggestions, then 01:00:102 - to 01:00:571 - could work as k d k d k as well. <<< Same
  8. 01:12:758 - If you're following the 1/6 sounds pretty much everywhere else, would it make sense to use 1/6 here too? (The 1/6 ending at 01:12:875 - ) <<< I've been thinking a long time in this section and I found a solution -w-
  9. 02:19:321 - Change to k. Same reason as the first time. <<< this is possible ...
  10. 02:20:434 - Change to k. Like in the beginning, I don't think a pattern like dddd fits here, since the last note is higher than the rest of the d's. <<< well.. ok
  11. 02:27:934 - and 02:28:110 - Same as in the beginning. <<< ok ...
  12. 02:30:571 - Change to k. Same as 02:19:321 - <<< possible ...
  13. 02:35:317 - and 02:35:434 - Could be changed the k's. Seems weird to have 02:35:610 - and 02:35:785 - as k's but not follow a similar rhythm beforehand. <<< possible ...
  14. 02:38:539 - and 02:38:656 - Ctrl+G. At 02:38:656 - kdk doesn't really follow the rhythm nor the melody. <<< some changes ...
thanks (owo)b

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Chromoxx
Hi there, i'm just gonna mod the Hell Oni for this one :D

[Hell Oni]
00:05:024 (4) - change to d, the repetitive d k feels kinda boring here and a bit of change would groove better for the start imo
00:09:008 (8) - change to k, there is a higher instrumental sound here than at 00:08:071 -
00:09:477 (9) - i'd also suggest changing this to d as it just sounds better imo (if you changed the last note to k) and flows more with the instrumentals
00:15:571 (16) - change to k and 00:16:039 - add k, i feel like that k k k d countdown would add a lot to the flow of the map and transition really well into the next part
00:24:946 - i feel like the repetitive kdk here doesn't flow as well with the music as it could do otherwise, so here are the following suggestions
00:25:180 (67,68,69) - kkd
00:25:883 (71,72,73) - ddk
00:26:352 (74) - d
00:27:055 (78,79,80) - kkd
00:27:758 (82,83,84) - dkd
00:28:461 (86) - change to d, 00:28:578 (87) - delete: this will add more impact to the notes at 00:28:696 -
00:30:571 - add a d, it feels kinda weird not mapping this, since it has a very strong weird vocal thingie and is basically what that whole k section is building up for
00:30:102 (100,101) - also maybe change these to d, it just feels better to me somehow and also matches the "woosh" sound in the background which gets deeper here
01:30:571 (605) - change to k, higher vocal than the last one
01:32:446 (606) - change to d, lower vocal than the last one
01:34:321 (607) - change to d, this vocal is also not too high and the d d k would add better buildup imo (this one isn't as important to me as the others tho)
01:42:289 - 01:42:758 - add k at both these spots, the k k k d would make a nice countdown thingie to flow into the next section and transition really smoothly
02:00:453 (725) - delete, i feel like this would flow a lot better and add more balance
02:02:328 (736) - ^
02:04:203 (747) - ^
02:06:078 (758) - ^ also this adds more emphasis on 02:06:196 (759) - because that way it would start the longer pattern
02:11:821 - add d, basically the same thing i said before. the whole kat section is building up for this note and you are leaving it out... it just feels really weird
02:11:352 (803,804) - also you could change these to d again as i suggested before

that's basically it... nice diff, just had a few suggestions for the slower parts ^^
Good luck with ranking! taiko needs more really hard maps to watch people suffer on :D
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