19:16 -Bakari-: First of all, how about muting sliderslide sound?
19:16 -Bakari-: Volume of the hitsounds in general feels pretty loud to me.
19:17 Yuzu-: Well, the mapper (a friend of mine) took care of the hitsounds for all the diffs
19:17 Yuzu-: mainly because I still haven't really learned how to use them properly
19:17 -Bakari-: Alright, then I'll just post it, then
19:17 Yuzu-: I've been really into mapping for what... 3 days?
19:17 Yuzu-: xD
19:17 -Bakari-: Well, you did pretty good :D
19:18 Yuzu-: thanks, I guess
19:18 -Bakari-: guess he also did combo colours and other general stuff, right?
19:19 Yuzu-: I did my combo colors, but he changed them around a bit
19:19 -Bakari-: well, I didn't really like them, but whatever.
19:21 -Bakari-: 00:06:487 (4) - try to remove the repeat and emphasize 'vocals' properly. [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530618 like this]
19:22 Yuzu-: But 00:07:653 (1) - stays where it is?
19:22 Yuzu-: wait
19:22 Yuzu-: nvm I think I got it
19:23 Yuzu-: got it, liked it
19:24 -Bakari-: 00:09:487 (4,1,2) - I pretty much like your rhythm there, but it plays a bit awkward, imo.
19:24 -Bakari-: I am talking about moves of a cursor
19:24 -Bakari-: I've tried to improve it, and [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530633 here's] my pattern.
19:25 -Bakari-: i did not change rhythm, just placement and shapes of the sliders. Try it and see if it plays better :)
19:25 Yuzu-: yeah, I noticed. the curves get a bit weird, and I also noticed I had to move the circles a bit
19:26 -Bakari-: 00:09:820 (1,2) - also, move new combo from (1) to (2)
19:26 -Bakari-: he sings smoke weed every (new combo) day. and it looks weird, imo
19:27 Yuzu-: I'll probably remake the combo colors myself, to the way they were
19:27 Yuzu-: But yeah, changed the sliders
19:28 -Bakari-: 00:18:653 (2,3,4) - try to listen to this with 25% playback rate
19:28 -Bakari-: you may notice that it gets off sometimes
19:29 Yuzu-: I saw it
19:30 Yuzu-: hmm.
19:30 -Bakari-: move 00:37:987 (1) - to 00:37:653 - in order to follow snoop's words
19:31 -Bakari-: 00:44:987 - whoops, we're off vocals again :(
19:31 Yuzu-: wait a sec, I'm trying to fix those 2 sliders first
19:31 Yuzu-: on 18
19:33 Yuzu-: 00:18:653 (2,3,4) - how does [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530657 this] sound?
19:35 -Bakari-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530662
19:35 -Bakari-: try this, it is more playable because it's 1/1 rhythm and it sounds pretty nice, imo
19:38 -Bakari-: 00:55:987 (2) - ending this one at 00:56:320 - will give you more consistent rhythm + it sounds better with vocals, imo
19:38 Yuzu-: Isn't it a pretty big jump from 00:20:487 (5) - to 00:20:987 (1) - ?
19:39 -Bakari-: well, I didn't try to organize the pattern. Just listen to the rhythm
19:39 Yuzu-: Yeah, I heard it
19:39 Yuzu-: sounds good
19:39 -Bakari-: by the way, I can start pointing out more rhythm mistakes
19:54 -Bakari-: 00:09:808 (6,1) - replacing them with a slider would be a good idea. You know, that gap is a bit confusing.http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530752
19:55 Yuzu-: Yeah, asw it
19:55 Yuzu-: saw*
19:55 -Bakari-: 00:10:642 (2) - I would recommend you to avoid such sliders. You know, the second reverse-arrow appears too late and it's pretty hard to notice it.
19:57 -Bakari-: So, shall we go on fixing rhythm mistakes or would you like to find them on your own?
19:57 Yuzu-: Colors aside, how does this look http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530761
19:57 -Bakari-: yeah, looks pretty nice. shape of (5) could be better, tho :P
19:58 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8gcZV.jpg
19:58 Yuzu-: k, it's similar
19:58 Yuzu-: done
20:00 -Bakari-: 00:13:308 - since he starts singing "smomomomoke" here, starting spinner here is a good idea
20:01 -Bakari-: 00:15:642 (1,2,3,4) - also, kinda re-arranged your rhythm here in order to emphasize the vocals.
20:02 Yuzu-: what do you mean, re-arranged
20:04 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8gdh1.jpg
20:04 -Bakari-: took your pattern and re-mapped it to follow music closer
20:05 Yuzu-: I did something similar, forgot to lengthen 2 though
20:05 Yuzu-: fixed
20:06 -Bakari-: 00:19:808 - (4) sounds off
20:06 -Bakari-: try moving it to the previous red tick
20:07 Yuzu-: I already did that part, it's something like this now: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530795
20:08 -Bakari-: 00:28:058 - there's some instrument in music like whistles or so, it starts at this point and sounds pretty awesome
20:09 -Bakari-: you may want to emphasize it. just let me know if you want me to suggest you a pattern
20:12 Yuzu-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530806 too clumped up?
20:13 -Bakari-: sounds nice <3
20:14 Yuzu-: same for the next time the instrument plays, right?
20:14 Yuzu-: around 5 beats after
20:14 -Bakari-: yeah, you understand everything really fast :)
20:16 Yuzu-: It's a bit more complicated after because of the way I placed my objects
20:19 Yuzu-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530833 How does this sound for the second instrument?
20:20 -Bakari-: pretty nice, imo
20:20 -Bakari-: well, I guess you got what I was trying to say.
20:21 -Bakari-: there're some rhythm mistakes, and you already understood how to fix them
20:21 -Bakari-: apart from the instruments, you're ignoring/missing vocals in some parts.
20:21 Yuzu-: Well I still need to get them first :)
20:23 -Bakari-: 00:48:975 - "smoke" should be mapped with a circle, imo. try making the slider shorter
20:23 -Bakari-: and placing a circle
20:23 -Bakari-: so, the slider will be finished at 00:48:642 -
20:24 -Bakari-: oh, and new-combo-placement can also be improved.
20:25 -Bakari-: 01:22:308 (1) - i've already mentioned that such sliders are hard to read and not the best idea for this kind of diffs
20:25 Yuzu-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530854 tried to make the sliders visible
20:25 -Bakari-: distance between (6) and (1) seems wrong :P
20:25 Yuzu-: it's not
20:26 Yuzu-: Anyway, before 01:22:308 (1) -
20:26 Yuzu-: isn't the rhythm a bit off too?
20:26 -Bakari-: well, sometimes it's hard to tell ny looking at screenshots
20:26 -Bakari-: yeah, it is :)
20:28 -Bakari-: 01:25:308 (2) - i generally dislike such sliders, but I think this one really needs to be changed
20:29 Yuzu-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530867 ?
20:30 -Bakari-: yeah, same for all sliders with 2+ repeats
20:30 -Bakari-: 01:27:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - try mapping the spinner?
20:30 -Bakari-: two spinners in a row is a bit boring and the first one can be mapped easily
20:30 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8geIN.jpg
20:31 Yuzu-: ok
20:31 Yuzu-: I will
20:34 -Bakari-: well, you can use [http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/131540 this program] or just ask Rad- to help you with hitsounds
20:35 Yuzu-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530881 rearranged 4 and 5 and the rest is on the screenshots http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1530881
20:36 -Bakari-: seems ok
20:36 Yuzu-: wow
20:37 Yuzu-: remember that thing you said it was not snapped
20:37 Yuzu-: turns out it really wasn't, and it was huge lol
20:37 -Bakari-: so, try to look for a few more rhythm mistakes as we might miss some of them
20:39 -Bakari-: woring on comboing is also needed
20:39 Yuzu-: gonna arrange the combo colors now
20:39 Yuzu-: and give it to you when im done k?
20:39 -Bakari-: and you can try to make your patterns more playable
20:39 -Bakari-: https://osu.ppy.sh/news/61334266941
20:41 -Bakari-: don't take it too seriously, but try to understand what's flow and how can you use it to improve your diff
20:42 Yuzu-: yeah
20:43 -Bakari-: your diff is not bad, but you should try to do hitsounds. at least try to understand them :)
20:44 -Bakari-: also, visually, you can make your map better. there're two ways to do it flow and symmetrical patterns. flow seems to work better with your style, so..
20:44 -Bakari-: also, comboing is.. well, you're changing it, so it'll be okay soon, I guess.
and part 2
16:54 -Bakari-: Hey, Pedro!
16:54 *-Bakari- hides
16:55 Yuzu-: Hey, stalker :3
17:03 -Bakari-: 00:35:486 (4) - da-da-da-day~
17:04 -Bakari-: kinda feeels like a nw combo would fit here. it will help you to emphasize the music
17:04 Yuzu-: oh
17:04 Yuzu-: Just noticed that 00:36:653 (1) - is a bit off
17:05 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8hpaN.jpg
17:09 -Bakari-: try moving new combo from 00:51:653 (1,4) - (1) to (4)
17:09 -Bakari-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1533338
17:10 -Bakari-: sounds much better with the vocals, imo
17:13 -Bakari-: 01:02:653 (4,1,2) - tried to make it sound better with vocals
17:13 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8hpu9.jpg
17:13 -Bakari-: here's what I got
17:17 Yuzu-: Got something similar, same on the timeline
17:17 Yuzu-: got it
17:18 -Bakari-: 01:13:486 (1) - i told you previously that it's better to avoid such sliders. try some [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1533364 weed]
17:19 Yuzu-: well
17:19 Yuzu-: my browser isn't opening any links atm
17:19 Yuzu-: idk why
17:19 -Bakari-: gosh
17:19 Yuzu-: can you just ctrl + v that without the weed thingy?
17:19 Yuzu-: i'll write it
17:19 -Bakari-: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1533364
17:20 -Bakari-: i just thought that all these links a re pretty boring, and tried to make it more interesting :P
17:20 Yuzu-: ooh
17:20 Yuzu-: looks good
17:21 -Bakari-: 01:15:486 (1,1,1) - try to remove new combo from the last two sliders. NC Spam is not a good thing and it is better to avoid it.
17:21 -Bakari-: if you want to emphasize the beats, try using hitsounds (later)
17:21 Yuzu-: Done
17:22 -Bakari-: 01:18:653 - try finishing the spinner here. and starting an 1/1 slider at 01:18:987 -
17:23 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8hpTG.jpg
17:23 -Bakari-: changed your pattern a bit, btw
17:23 -Bakari-: just see if you like it more :)
17:23 Yuzu-: Hmm
17:24 Yuzu-: I kinda took what you said earlier and made a 1/1 slider with a blanket on 01:19:653 (2)'s start
17:24 Yuzu-: I kinda liked it
17:26 -Bakari-: my god, how could I miss it
17:26 -Bakari-: 00:15:153 -
17:26 -Bakari-: listen to the spinner, guess you'll find something wrong in the end :P
17:27 Yuzu-: true
17:27 Yuzu-: Uh, how about 00:17:319 (4) -
17:27 Yuzu-: finishing on red tick?
17:27 -Bakari-: 00:47:653 (2,3,4) - spacing feels broken, right?
17:28 -Bakari-: there's a beat on 00:17:653 -
17:28 -Bakari-: so, I think that finishing (4) there is ok.
17:28 Yuzu-: k
17:28 -Bakari-: 00:20:820 - maybe you've missed a circle here, tho.
17:28 Yuzu-: and that spacing feels broken but isn't
17:28 Yuzu-: at least DS doesn't say anything
17:29 -Bakari-: http://puu.sh/8hq8x.jpg
17:29 Yuzu-: That the circle coordinates or...?
17:30 -Bakari-: 00:50:986 (3,1) - x0,67 DS here. just a minor mistake, but since it's noticeable
17:30 -Bakari-: well, look at what DS says
17:31 Yuzu-: Saw it, I think it's fixed