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Remove title text during gameplay [resolved]

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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
Current Priority: +245
Zakdawg
128 posts
Joined June 2012
Topic Starter
Zakdawg
Original Feature request OP p/2073105 written by Aqo:
It's annoying as hell, it hides the playfield, distracts from circles, and when playing DT it makes the beginning of the map downright unplayable.



Please either remove this completely or make an option to disable this.
We already know the title of the song we're playing before we're entering to play it, how is this necessary. All it does is hide circles.


What Zakdawg originally said
As I can like the idea, i think throwing it in my face as it is currently being done is a bit overkill, and it has actually started to annoy me quite a bit.

A less dramatic version, throwing it in at the first break, or simply giving an option to disable it could be nice.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/575083 example.
69653863
1,818 posts
Joined January 2012
69653863
That is customizable. Tell any BATs to move the title text somewhere on the song. If it's not your map, post on it's thread about this.

And I don't think anyone will allow that to get disabled ._.
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
I doubt any BAT will disable it, but if you want to readjust it, just read t/14513 and tell a BAT what you want, as long as it is your map.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
You can disable it by dimming the background to 100% in the visual effects. That way you will never see it while you're playing. not anymore!
Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare

theowest wrote:

You can disable it by dimming the background to 100% in the visual effects. That way you will never see it while you're playing.
Actually, that's wrong. after the last update the title doesn't get dimmed anymore.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
theowest

Zarerion wrote:

theowest wrote:

You can disable it by dimming the background to 100% in the visual effects. That way you will never see it while you're playing.
Actually, that's wrong. after the last update the title doesn't get dimmed anymore.
yeah, I just noticed that now. that's such a shame. :(
Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare

  • theowest wrote:

    yeah, I just noticed that now. that's such a shame. :(
    It can be annoying with transparent circles, yeah. But well, we'll get used to it eventually
MieraK
40 posts
Joined April 2012
MieraK
I would like to be able to dim it again. My skin uses kinda similar color to a lot of those titles and i have a really hard time seeing some of the notes under those titles.
Zakdawg
128 posts
Joined June 2012
Topic Starter
Zakdawg
Well I'll probably get used to it eventually.

I just don't see the point in having the title at the start. I already saw the name of the song while downloading it, or at the song select screen.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
It's annoying as hell, it hides the playfield, distracts from circles, and when playing DT it makes the beginning of the map downright unplayable.



Please either remove this completely or make an option to disable this.
We already know the title of the song we're playing before we're entering to play it, how is this necessary. All it does is hide circles.
Marcin
osu! Alumni
4,944 posts
Joined March 2011
Marcin
inb4 denied, i love this sentence.
Anyway, Dimming before update was affecting that IIRC...
koromo
165 posts
Joined March 2011
koromo
^ It used to, yes. Visual settings (BG dim) used to affect title text too before one of the recent updates. Changing it back to the old behavior would solve the problem, no need for new settings or options.

It really is distracting.
Marcin
osu! Alumni
4,944 posts
Joined March 2011
Marcin
well, but on old method, there was problem that faded text, behind main text wasn't working on widescreen(cutting out), so that's probably the reason of changing that
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
It needs an improvement either way. IMHO, it's only useful if it's during a break and you have time to read it, otherwise it's just ugly and in the way. Not to mention that you can't change the title text colour without BAT help.
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost
I was just about to make a post about this. :)

theowest wrote:

It needs an improvement either way. IMHO, it's only useful if it's during a break and you have time to read it, otherwise it's just ugly and in the way. Not to mention that you can't change the title text colour without BAT help.
There really is no point in the text in the first place. I doubt someone needs to be reminded the name of the song every attempt.
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
If you use the fun spoiler nobody cares what you think. You're not supposed to have fun.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

ziin wrote:

If you use the fun spoiler nobody cares what you think. You're not supposed to have fun.
It's not called fun spoiler anymore tho
Kuroneko-sHerald
1,081 posts
Joined August 2008
Kuroneko-sHerald
As it is now, the text starts about 1/4 before the first beat.
Maybe a way to start the text as soon as the song start if there is a short gap between start of the song -> first beat (if the map starts immediately, the text should start on the lead-in) would be fine, but that means re-coding the way the text is showing.
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
^

That should be better than removing it imo, the average lead-in time is 1-1.5s, it's enough to show the title thing, I find in that a nice feature, rage on me /o/
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

Zakdawg wrote:

I just don't see the point in having the title at the start. I already saw the name of the song while downloading it, or at the song select screen.
t/115441 your not the only one :/
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
I'm just going to move the posts from this topic t/114946/ to this one

edit: I can't :(
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
but I can :D
theowest
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
theowest

MillhioreF wrote:

but I can :D
dude, you just made the original OP the last post in that thread. whatever, I guess this work.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
Millhiore you broke the topic wtf D:
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
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Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
That's how merging threads works! It acts like all the posts from both threads were posted in one thread, and since the posts in your thread were posted later then they appear later in this thread.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
theowest

MillhioreF wrote:

That's how merging threads works! It acts like all the posts from both threads were posted in one thread, and since the posts in your thread were posted later then they appear later in this thread.
that makes sense.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
I'm kinda sad because this is a major issue that's causing annoyance for anybody I know all the time now and at this rate it probably won't get addressed.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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theowest

Aqo wrote:

I'm kinda sad because this is a major issue that's causing annoyance for anybody I know all the time now and at this rate it probably won't get addressed.
I kinda made it look better for you
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

theowest wrote:

Aqo wrote:

I'm kinda sad because this is a major issue that's causing annoyance for anybody I know all the time now and at this rate it probably won't get addressed.
I kinda made it look better for you
ty

it's really hard to concentrate on the map when this text is in the middle of the screen covering the notes, which can last for like over 30 notes when playing DT and with AR10.3 it's really a pain to try to play like this
Arczii
78 posts
Joined June 2012
Arczii
Good idea, totally signed this thread.
JMC
osu!artist
1,899 posts
Joined April 2011
JMC
the text is very annoying if i play HR+HD D:
peppy, what if you make splash screen before enter the gameplay, like BMS opening song
like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FO3-PuHorg

sorry for bad english :3
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
Oh yes please, this is incredibly annoying when playing with high ARs and you want 100%. The idea ^ by JMC would work well, too.
bwross
265 posts
Joined December 2009
bwross
But it only serves to make plays that are supposed to be hard, harder as intended!! And sure it has nothing really to do with the actual rhythm of the music, but who cares!!! People should just learn to play better!!!! This game is all about small frustrating things that are completely pointless to the actual gameplay!!!! We wouldn't want to change any of those!!! Think of the poor old scores!!!!!! Unfair!!!!!!!!!
Clementine_old
Clementine_old

Aqo wrote:

Game mechanics should not revolve around "fairness". Osu is still a game that is WIP, and development should not be stopped due to deprecated features that have been in use for a while.
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama
I hate the title text too! They look great when you are spectating, but when you're the player it's another story...
Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare

bwross wrote:

But it only serves to make plays that are supposed to be hard, harder as intended!! And sure it has nothing really to do with the actual rhythm of the music, but who cares!!! People should just learn to play better!!!! This game is all about small frustrating things that are completely pointless to the actual gameplay!!!! We wouldn't want to change any of those!!! Think of the poor old scores!!!!!! Unfair!!!!!!!!!
That was like the dumbest post of 2013.
Now that this is an actual request: I support this as well.
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Supporting.

It would be ideal if the title got showed during some mid break (those maps that show the song title like at half the song since you get a break there) but since that won't get changed on every map just making it so you can not-see it would be the best.

I wouldn't use this feature anyways.
Akatsuki
41 posts
Joined September 2010
Akatsuki
Supporting this! Make us the option to turn it off or making it smaller. Display it during the break is nice too....
raww_old
raww_old
Supporting this. The scrolling song title serves no purpose as already mentioned, and only proves to be preventing the player from reading the intro of almost every song properly.
Nilsso
Nilsso
SUPPORTING THIS!
primrose
primrose
Supporting this!
Splash screen would be cool!
I can't dim the title on gameplay anymore now, But I'm starting to be OK with the not dim-able title..
But still supporting! go go
Anzo
762 posts
Joined December 2010
Anzo
I thought I already posted in this thread, pomf

I somehow hate it when playing with HD so I'll support this one...
But if ppy doesn't like to remove it, I guess I prefer to have a watermarked text instead of a solid one.
Van246
82 posts
Joined December 2011
Van246
Hm true, it does get in the way...
But I would still want the title to show up, so I would be great if it just shows during a break
Heibel
812 posts
Joined July 2011
Heibel
So many supporters on something that really does not matter if you can play properly \o/
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

Heibel wrote:

So many supporters on something that really does not matter if you can play properly \o/
I'd love to see you write that again after you'd trying to play AR10.3 HD on >200bpm
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Which almost no one really does so who cares.
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama
Do we really need so such a high profile text floating around amongst the beat circles? It's really getting on my nerves lately...

Saten
Global Moderator
3,866 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
It can be distracting most of the time
Nidert
80 posts
Joined April 2011
Nidert
It's really a pain in the ass when trying to HDHR ;;
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
Sometimes I don't even notice that there's a white text in screen, you really should focus on hitting circles than looking at some random text that is easily ignorable.

I only find that the text could be annoying with whitish combo colors with any mod combination implying HD.

Edit: neither supporting or not, just giving my opinion based on the comments. I don't care if the text is gone or not.
jemhuntr
933 posts
Joined February 2012
jemhuntr
osu! draws it below circles, good enough

Edit: how about this:
if a song has around 5 starting seconds before the first note, show it. otherwise, wait for the first break before showing it. if the map has no starting delay nor any breaks, don't show it. also, allow the mapper to remove it.
Enzo_old
195 posts
Joined October 2011
Enzo_old
A splash screen would be nice, like the BMS opening. Although, the text covers the notes and it's a pain for me. I agree for the removal, or atleast, make a splash screen.
JMC
osu!artist
1,899 posts
Joined April 2011
JMC
bump,
SPOILER
I should be extra focus when text appears
if WW created this request maybe its different story >.>
Hiryuu_old
439 posts
Joined June 2011
Hiryuu_old
Supporting with 3 stars.
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
Joined January 2010
Garven
osu! draws this behind circles, so this isn't really an issue. It seems to only be a problem if you have transparent circles, and there's an easy way to fix that. We can remove the title text in specific maps, but that would only be when the title/artist are storyboarded in. Go mod every map and tell people to add in a storyboard so you can disable it. I'm sure mappers would love to do that just for you.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
Or you can just allow users to disable the title text if they don't like it, so that everybody can enjoy maps in a way that's fun for them and while requiring no extra effort from anybody!

!!!!!!

But no, obviously, why take the win-win approach which is both incredibly easy to implement and pleases everybody, lets just walk with our face into a wall.
darkmiz
407 posts
Joined August 2011
darkmiz
I suggest adding a toggle to hide the title.
Kuroneko-sHerald
1,081 posts
Joined August 2008
Kuroneko-sHerald

Kuroneko-sHerald wrote:

As it is now, the text starts about 1/4 before the first beat.
Maybe a way to start the text as soon as the song start if there is a short gap between start of the song -> first beat (if the map starts immediately, the text should start on the lead-in) would be fine, but that means re-coding the way the text is showing.
I still think that this could be a nice compromise (but involve re-coding).
Zumi
51 posts
Joined January 2012
Zumi
Problem: In all beatmaps, the song title and artist name appear during the map.
It appears while objects are on the screen in a lot of beatmaps, this is extremely annoying because of the style of the text that causes it to mix in with the objects.
(see screenshot)
I find it extremely hard to read maps when this happens.


My suggestion how to fix it: If the text was more simple (smaller text and not the larger - slightly faded - text behind it like it is now) it wouldn't be so annoying.
(also, maybe not have the text in the middle of the playfield?)

there are probably more ways to fix this so I don't see any issues with doing so.

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