insanity would defeat the purpose of an open setup



because you probably investigated the same person you killed and found that he was the cop.

Vote Count:

Lybydose - 3 (JinxyJem, NoHitter, Rantai)
JinxyJem - 2 (Makar, Lybydose)
bmin11 - 1 (Mashley)


Not Voting: pieguy1372, bmin11, Lincolm

5 HOURS UNTIL DEADLINE!

I'm sure I and JInxyjem will go bed too.

At least we know one of you is a Mafia Role Cop, who claim Kanye's role. Because if not, someone will counterclaim.

Vote : Lybydose

I would say JInxyjem would not roleclaim easy like that if he is a mafia. Because if Lybydose really Coroner, there is still Town Census can prove him he is a mafia (if he use his 1 shot census ability), and mafia lost a man in day 2. I don't think this will be happen except the last mafia really think he can handle the rest.

Sorry Lyby. Time to go bed. No time to change vote.

Vote Count:

Lybydose - 4 (JinxyJem, NoHitter, Rantai, Lincolm)
JinxyJem - 3 (Makar, Lybydose, Mashley)

Not Voting: pieguy1372, bmin11


Day has been extended for 24 hours. Deadline is 7:00 PM EST, August 18th

Voting Lyby if there isn't any CC

Prod: Makar

FoS: Mashley
Just coming in and voting the unCC'd cop with a very vague reason? Trying to save your scumbuddy?

Also, yes. I don't think mafia would use their Role Cop on someone who they killed.
They would most likely opt to flesh out all the power roles first by their investigation.

IMO it wouldn't make much sense if the mafia knows the role of people they kill. The way I see it is that nothing at all is revealed when a person dies, so not even the mafia would know. We might as well check this with the mod to prevent any assumptions. mod: does the mafia know the role of people they kill?

We also have to keep in mind that if JInxy really is a cop, he can only find one person, namely Lyby, cause the other mafia is a godfather. So now that he did find the one mafia and there's no independents, he's just like a vanilla townie. It's kind of odd that he waited to claim then, because if he really is a cop it's no use checking people anymore, and IMO an insane cop here would break the game

If JInxy isn't the cop, then he's probably setting up to mislead us for the whole game. They would have had to kill the real cop N0 though. Then they would to have to know who the census taker via rolecop so they can kill him/her the next night, because otherwise the census taker can just figure out if we lynched a mafia or not. They would also have to know who the coroner is because otherwise the coroner could help us figure out who is mafia. So they would have to know 3 roles by N0 (cop, coroner, census taker), which is impossible. There is a chance they just randomly accused the coroner D1 so they would only have to know 2 roles N0, but that would require luck.

Meanwhile, if Lyby isn't really the Coroner, we have both the real Coroner and the census taker to help us figure it out. Since that would mean JInxy is a cop, the only way Lyby could get away with it is if they killed the census taker and coroner N1 and N0, and they would have to know they killed the coroner and who the census taker is via the rolecop. So they would only need to know 2 roles by N0.

So currently we should wait for another Cop or Coroner to cc. If not, JInxy's fakeclaim would be impossible to pull off without luck, so we should probably lynch Lyby IMO. (Then again Lyby's possible role is currently more powerful, since JInxy's possible role is now a vanilla townie, so it is a game of odds, but as I said, JInxy's is impossible without luck)

No, but keep in mind that there exists a mafia rolecop.

Prodded: Makar

Okay, good to know. So if JInxy was mafia, he would have to kill the cop N0, lynch the coroner D1, and kill the census taker N1, but the problem is they wouldn't be able to know if they killed both of them. He would also have had no way of knowing who the coroner was without using a rolecop, but then they wouldn't know who they killed at all. If Lyby was mafia, he would have to kill the coroner N0 and the census taker N1, but they still wouldn't be able to know if they killed both of them.

So just playing the odds, IMO it's more likely Lyby is mafia.

Of course we should still wait until someone ccs, this is just theoretical if no one ccs.

Oh right, I hadn't realized that the moment we lynch Lybydose, JInxy's role will be practically useless.
I CC Coroner.

Doctor should be on me, but if you want to play the WIFOM card and go protect JInxyjem then sure.

EBWOP:
I decided to withhold CC-ing since I thought that giving Mafia a choice between the Cop and Coroner wouldn't be advantageous since that would be giving away two powers roles, because I thought that JInxy's abilities could still have been used to find the other mafia.