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 Tempo Trainee 7 posts   |
Hi~ I'm new to osu! (been playing for almost 3 months) and I was just wondering: how long did it take everyone to switch from playing easy/normal/hard to insane? Did you skip the easier difficulties and head straight for the harder ones? I skipped right to insane the first week I joined. I couldn't pass insane songs for a while, so I constantly played songs far too hard for me with No Fail. Now however, I can play moderately fast insane songs and get around 90-95% on my first try without using any mods (on faster insanes I get about 80-87% first try typically). I have played a little over 10k times. Is this where I should be by now? Am I behind? Any feedback welcome.
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 Rhythm Incarnate 1,535 posts   |
 Rhythm Incarnate 589 posts |
Luna wrote: Insanes at 10k plays is decent, don't worry ^ This. Also, the fact that you played songs you couldn't beat with nofail is actually the smartest thing you can do to improve. Most people think they have to play songs they can pass to improve but really playing what you can't or can barely pass is the best way to move forward.  |
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Tempo Trainee 7 posts |
JAKANYAN wrote: Luna wrote: Insanes at 10k plays is decent, don't worry ^ This. Also, the fact that you played songs you couldn't beat with nofail is actually the smartest thing you can do to improve. Most people think they have to play songs they can pass to improve but really playing what you can't or can barely pass is the best way to move forward. Glad I've been doing the right thing! Also, is it true that using No Fail lowers your overall accuracy? |
 Slider Savant 116 posts  |
 Rhythm Incarnate 2,357 posts  |
Kinenz wrote: Glad I've been doing the right thing! Also, is it true that using No Fail lowers your overall accuracy? No Fail is not going to change anything itself... It just makes it so that you don't fail... but if you play really hard maps you can't beat, it theoretically will lower your accuracy. But actually, nowadays, I don't think even bad troll scores with No Fail will even have that indirect effect anymore. This is because your accuracy is based on pp, and pp only calculates on maps which you do relatively well/really good on. Usually, you won't place anywhere high on the ranking list using No Fail, and thus pp is not calculated and neither is your accuracy. Though, there are maps like Freedom Dive. Ami Furi Koneko wrote: It can also bring some bad habits which will be a real pain to get rid of. Highly depends on a player though. Most, I suppose, aren't facing this problem. This probably like the sole reason why I fking suck at squares (and other perfect polygons), cuz I keep trying to half-ass them with curvy movements.   |
 Rhythm Incarnate 1,849 posts  |
winber1 wrote: Usually, you won't place anywhere high on the ranking list using No Fail mfw like 10 top 300 ranks with NF can you guess the maps |
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Tempo Trainee 7 posts |
Ami Furi Koneko wrote: JAKANYAN wrote: playing what you can't or can barely pass is the best way to move forward. It can also bring some bad habits which will be a real pain to get rid of. Highly depends on a player though. Most, I suppose, aren't facing this problem. I've stopped using No Fail on insane/harder songs since a month ago. Now I only use it if I can't for my LIFE pass the song after trying over and over, especially on super crazy hard songs like The Big Black, which I play for fun even though I know they are far beyond my skill level. xD |
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 Star Shooter 190 posts  |
JAKANYAN wrote: Luna wrote: Insanes at 10k plays is decent, don't worry ^ This. Also, the fact that you played songs you couldn't beat with nofail is actually the smartest thing you can do to improve. Most people think they have to play songs they can pass to improve but really playing what you can't or can barely pass is the best way to move forward. it depends, some maps like big black or airman require a gradual improving of skills (trained up with other maps) before being passed. especially big black... playing that map without the skill to play insane can lead to anything... u play it 10k times? well u will waste 10k plays without any result. |
 Star Shooter 255 posts  |
 Rhythm Incarnate 3,502 posts |
Due to what standards were back in 2008, I really have to know what you consider to be an "Insane" in order to adequately answer that question.
Modern-style Insanes? Like a week after I learned you were supposed to turn mouse acceleration off, which would be over a year in total, I guess? Keep in mind that this game is bloody impossible to play with mouse acceleration. After I turned it off it was like, "OMG this jump map is suddenly extremely easy!" Passing with A's and stuff on a regular basis didn't come until very recently, though, soon after I started playing semi-seriously again for the first time in over 3.5 years. I've been surprised at how quickly I've improved, actually. [img]http://puu.sh/Grie[/img]
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 Combo Commander 462 posts  |
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Tempo Trainee 7 posts |
[AirCoN] wrote: I've been doing the same thing as you when I started, cept I was able to do insanes at around 4000 plays I don't mean that I'm only just now able to do insanes. I was able to play insanes without no fail around 2 months ago (correcting myself from earlier when I said it was just one month ago) but I just get higher accuracy on them now. What I was really asking was if my accuracy is where it should be by now when playing insane songs. Sorry for not being more specific D: Also, should I be using mods on them by now? I can do hidden and doubletime on a few, but I mostly play without any mods at all (insane only). Sorry again if I'm being confusing >< |
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Tempo Trainee 7 posts |
Ekaru wrote: Due to what standards were back in 2008, I really have to know what you consider to be an "Insane" in order to adequately answer that question. Modern-style Insanes? Like a week after I learned you were supposed to turn mouse acceleration off, which would be over a year in total, I guess? Keep in mind that this game is bloody impossible to play with mouse acceleration. After I turned it off it was like, "OMG this jump map is suddenly extremely easy!" Passing with A's and stuff on a regular basis didn't come until very recently, though, soon after I started playing semi-seriously again for the first time in over 3.5 years. I've been surprised at how quickly I've improved, actually. By "insane" I mean when the mapper either names his difficulty "insane" or when it is easy to tell that the map's difficulty suddenly got much harder compared to the previous difficulty in the map. I don't know any real terminology for this kind of stuff, so I apologize for sounding extremely nooby. ;_; |
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