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After talking it out a bit more it is seemed this is better fitting for a guideline I suppose there are to many cases of artists being silly as for maps they were changed they don't have to be changed back unless the mapper feels the need to add this to there title and unless you cut more than 50% for a song there is no need to really state it unless you really want to. Still subject to change


Most of japanese songs can be cut at 1/3 of its length or 2/3 of its length (for example), first case is usually called "TV size" and second can be called a "Short ver." so I suggest raise that 50% to ~65% (no more than 70%), it will be more accurate. Still, I think, if a mapper can give a proper explanation of why add "Short ver." or anything like that it will be enough.

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My view on this still has not changed from the very beginning:
If you made the cut yourself, the version is (Cut Ver.).
If you found it from the soundtrack already cut for you, the version is (Short Ver.).
How confusing can it get?
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My view on this still has not changed from the very beginning:
If you made the cut yourself, the version is (Cut Ver.).
If you found it from the soundtrack already cut for you, the version is (Short Ver.).
How confusing can it get?


Why not use a general label for any song edited by yourself, that means make it shorter or larger or any other type of edit, to make noticeable any sort of change to the song.
Just saying.

PD: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist?s=7&o=1 ... 0&g=0&la=0
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those wrote:
My view on this still has not changed from the very beginning:
If you made the cut yourself, the version is (Cut Ver.).
If you found it from the soundtrack already cut for you, the version is (Short Ver.).
How confusing can it get?


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So did this thread reached any conclusion (after two months of being dead)?
Else I'd mark this thread with a flame and move it.
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Apparantly not. Feel free to dig this out if you think that another reconsideration is required and move it back.
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This just doesn't matter, what is the point on creating random rules?
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I have no clue what's so difficult on this:
Short Ver. = A shorter Version of the Song which is offical.
Cut Ver. = A shorter Version of the Song which is unoffical.
Full Ver. does not really exist. We got TV Size or Short Ver. but no real Full Ver.

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11841 <- Actually a Cut Ver.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/14405 <- The original Version which does not require (Full Ver.) in the Title.
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Using Cut or Short ver. is very usefull, you will know how long is the song, or if it is the original one ...
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I think Cut or Short version is good since you know how long is the song (as this sad above), and you will know this is not the original one. Someone cutted (officially or not) it. And Short version song does exist so we should use them as well.
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Huh I am not sure if I said somewhere that Short Ver./Cut Ver. does not exist nor is neccessary to use. o.o

@Kurokami: I gave my mind what I see as Cut and as Short Version. A Cut Version is when you are not mapping the full Song and having like 20~25% of the Song empty because of various reasons. And since you HAD to cut the Song in case you're mapping less than 80% the term "Cut Ver." would fit right (and would be used right).

Other thing to Short Versions: These are complete and not cutted but still shorter as the Original Version. As Example:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39031 <- Short Version
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40873 <- The full Song but since it's the Original we do not set (Full Ver.) in the Title?
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@Stefan I know what is the difference between them. I just tried to point out they aren't the original full lengh songs. So we should use them in the title.
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this is largely ignored as a guideline and all variants of the ver. tag in song/beatmap names look extremely poor and out of place.

accordingly, this guideline is now considered as a rule and maps that violate it henceforth are candidates for unranking.
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Ephemeral wrote:
this is largely ignored as a guideline and all variants of the ver. tag in song/beatmap names look extremely poor and out of place.

accordingly, this guideline is now considered as a rule and maps that violate it henceforth are candidates for unranking.

Sorry, I don't get it. This should be reconsidered.
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