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speed =/= skill

im pretty fast and get most scores because of being fast, but I don't consider myself a good player at all.
oh and I'm right handed. I can stream faster on mouse, but it's too hard for me too keep control if it gets too fast. I can go to 250~ bpm max with left hand.
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GladiOol wrote:
speed =/= skill

im pretty fast and get most scores because of being fast, but I don't consider myself a good player at all.
oh and I'm right handed. I can stream faster on mouse, but it's too hard for me too keep control if it gets too fast. I can go to 250~ bpm max with left hand.


Pretty much this.

I have to use my left hand & kb for fast streams (200+) simply because I can't control my mouse, even though I can probably stream faster with my right hand
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GladiOol wrote:
speed =/= skill

im pretty fast and get most scores because of being fast, but I don't consider myself a good player at all.
oh and I'm right handed. I can stream faster on mouse, but it's too hard for me too keep control if it gets too fast. I can go to 250~ bpm max with left hand.


Pretty much this.

I have to use my left hand & kb for fast streams (200+) simply because I can't control my mouse, even though I can probably stream faster with my right hand


I remember reading you're a full claw grip user. From my own experience, that's jackass if you want to play by clicks entirely.
The best way to control steady 200+ bpm with clicks alone without having a cursor shake that looks like parkinson, is to play with a full palm grip style.
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I'm left handed~
I can stream like 320bpm with left on good days, 280 normally, 240bpm on longer streams
With right hand I streamed at 300bpm sometimes.. normally I stream like 240bpm and 220bpm on longer streams

Really, streaming isn't that hard o-o
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[Luanny PhNyx] wrote:
I'm left handed~
I can stream like 320bpm with left on good days, 280 normally, 240bpm on longer streams
With right hand I streamed at 300bpm sometimes.. normally I stream like 240bpm and 220bpm on longer streams

Really, streaming isn't that hard o-o
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Let's see a FREEDOM DiVE replay from you; it's 222.22bpm and therefore shouldn't be a problem.
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what the hell

I'm left handed, and when Z/Xing with left hand I get max 210bpm
and with right hand I can't even go over 160

same lol
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Right handed and can sometimes with warm up do longer 170 bpm streams with left hand. For shorter ones it's propably around 180-190 bpm.

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right handed, never trained or used it and i can stream max to 200 bpm, my left hand got better in 2 years of training and i can stream faster with it now, max to 250 on short streams, for the long ones its random on days, sometimes my best is 170 and sometimes 220/230 on VERY good days
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my left hand is faster than my right hand, even though I'm a (right handed) mouse only user waaaaaaaah D:


^same here :3, my limit is at 190-200 (short streams)
Now my right hand is faster than my left hand (maybe because too much playing)
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kriers wrote:
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Pretty much this.

I have to use my left hand & kb for fast streams (200+) simply because I can't control my mouse, even though I can probably stream faster with my right hand


I remember reading you're a full claw grip user. From my own experience, that's jackass if you want to play by clicks entirely.
The best way to control steady 200+ bpm with clicks alone without having a cursor shake that looks like parkinson, is to play with a full palm grip style.


Yeah my new mouse is too big to claw so I'm starting to use palm, it's a lot smoother but still pretty hard to control when streaming fast
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Kriers is right that the palm grip makes it easier to stream full mouse, in my opinion, since I know that I couldn't stream half as well with click/x if I didn't lean toward palm grip myself. The extra stability from it is what makes the difference when your fingers are moving quickly like that and can't be expected to control the mouse without help.

I think that play style makes all the difference in streaming speed. I see so many discussions from keyboard players about streaming, but personally I never thought streaming was hard with click/x. In fact, I'd say it's the easiest thing for me to do, and I never met a stream at any speed that I didn't feel I could take on, given maybe a little practice. I have a wayyyyy harder time keeping up with fast singles and complex switching motions on some maps and on most DTs above 120 BPM.

The concept of right handed vs left handed making it harder to stream is interesting, because different hemispheres take dominance over different hands, but my play experience is based in using both hands when I stream, so what I've learned probably isn't sufficient to allow me to comment beyond saying that I could see how you might experience left or right handed play differently depending on your brain dominance, because I seem to remember that one side tends to take in visual and tactile information and ultimately relay it back to the other side. I'm not sure if this changes with hand dominance, but it might be the case that there's a certain delay in information transfer for people who have one side dominant vs the other. That's just what I seem to remember reading about somewhere, I wouldn't call it real evidence.
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My post may sound cocky but damn...

Everytime I see ''I can stream 270 bpm for 10-15 circles 220 usual,natural streaming, 210 is childs play, 200 bpm is one finger job, I probably have SS on dragonforce maps'' I check the person who wrote this expecting top class well known uber pro top stream player and what I see is someone who I've seen his name only on forums and I do stalk the ranking charts.
Funny other thing is that when a good player(at least known) comes he usually says some normal number like 190-200 bpm is my casual streaming.

I consider myself as a stream player because I love them but I am learning 200 bpm now(dragonforce mostly), I can do 220(chipscape) but only in good times + I have to give my best, it's not like I can do it naturally like it's easy, speaking of natural streams ~ 180-188 bpm is the best bpm for streams, can do it all day, feels so natural.

Does everybody posts his stream speed according to the stream calculator lol?


Back to the topic, at school I try to practice writing with left hand because there is some slight chance my right hand to have more potential in streaming than my left, and since pen in school is similiar to pen in tablet I might get ambidextrous soon.


If my post made specifically someone angry, I was speaking for the whole ''stream speed'' topic all around osu! forums not just this one.

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I'm right handed and I can't go nearly as fast as other people, can't fc rog-unlimitation for example :(

My endurance is pretty good though.
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Philippines wrote:
According to my Observation, most Left Handed People can stream up to 200+ while Right handed people can only stream up to 200. Can someone prove me wrong? I am a right handed guy who can only stream up to 185

yeah, i can prove you wrong. i'm left-handed and i can't stream even @ 180 :<
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My post may sound cocky but damn...

Everytime I see ''I can stream 270 bpm for 10-15 circles 220 usual,natural streaming, 210 is childs play, 200 bpm is one finger job, I probably have SS on dragonforce maps'' I check the person who wrote this expecting top class well known uber pro top stream player and what I see is someone who I've seen his name only on forums and I do stalk the ranking charts.
Funny other thing is that when a good player(at least known) comes he usually says some normal number like 190-200 bpm is my casual streaming.

I consider myself as a stream player because I love them but I am learning 200 bpm now(dragonforce mostly), I can do 220(chipscape) but only in good times + I have to give my best, it's not like I can do it naturally like it's easy, speaking of natural streams ~ 180-188 bpm is the best bpm for streams, can do it all day, feels so natural.

Does everybody posts his stream speed according to the stream calculator lol?


Back to the topic, at school I try to practice writing with left hand because there is some slight chance my right hand to have more potential in streaming than my left, and since pen in school is similiar to pen in tablet I might get ambidextrous soon.


If my post made specifically someone angry, I was speaking for the whole ''stream speed'' topic all around osu! forums not just this one.

CHeers !


first of all nobody said anything about being able to SS dragonforce
and second, just because you can stream fast does not mean you are good at osu! overall. you can suck at accuracy or jump or whatever, or just be horrible overall but have incredibly fast fingers.
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