Score reset, disable submission, but leave account access
and
Give a second chance (new account)
should be put together and be the indicator for a permanent ban if the player do so again.

that's actually what cheaters want

case 1 & 3:
even if ban is completely automated, e-mail by banned user will let peppy spend time for inspection.

case 2:
worst because it cost more time than other.

So, problem is how to manage e-mail/pm from users who cry liike "I am not cheater, recover my account" or something like that.
One solution is ignore whole pm from banned user.
I don't think we need to care petition from cheater whom peppy identified 100%.

so I support 3 + (irc!) // ignore whole pm/mail about petition for ban.

We need to talk about cheater ~99%(by peppy), but that should be in another thread.

I can imagine an accidental permaban on an innocent player. That's happened to me before on plenty of multiplayer games, especially the ones with huge amounts of players and the security team or whoever doesn't get to my complaint for a year...

peppy knows what he's doing, so an innocent player won't get banned for cheating.

of corse but (again) lunah can blablabla others can too blablabla

of course, but again this is talking about new guidelines.

What cheaters want is attention. All this "second chance" crap is attention they don't deserve. Ban attention is enough to minimize damage at low time cost. There is no way to deal with cheaters without giving them attention, other than automating the system (which is insecure).

Just change your passwords on your accounts to jibberish that you won't remember, get a new throwaway email, change your IP address and get a new identity. This is impossible to stop. Why are people so attached to an online identity anyway?

How about just not give a shit lol. If they cheat and wanna come back its not hard to make another account. Your never gonna stop cheaters.

may i say that you're missing the point. it's not the account, it's the person. even if you kept one account legit and didn't cheat you still cheated on another account.

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the online identity part i don't know.
as for cheaters, they want one of two things
1. the easy way to pass something hard, cause they're lazy to get better
2. the easy way to pass something hard, but this time because they wanna show off and or troll those who can't do it
most likely the second choice. i don't see that many cheaters anymore who do the first choice, or it could just be me
As for limiting the attention they get when they get banned or something, that's too hard. One point or the other the truth will slip out.


True. we can't stop them. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though, what, are we just gonna let them go around being unfair to the other players?


Ok. in theory, option 3 works, but again, they'll just multiaccount. as i said earlier, cheaters want attention. And although being able to go get a score using a cheat while in their account, they can't really show it off and get attention, either no one would pay attention to him since his score isn't submitted anyway, or becasue they know he cheated. cheaters might multiaccount again to get around this.

Permanent Ban ~ ( plus score reset @@ )

depends on the cheating
i think people that use spin macro or have a really low amount of hacked scores should get their accounts reset, but banned if they do it again.
i think people that hack (autoplay, memory, flashlight, etc.) should have reset scores, and unable to submit scores (or permanently banned if they stop signing in).
i know several people that have cheated in the past but stopped doing it too, that's an issue as well...