A cheater is found (100% certain). What do we do with them?
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Permanent ban (no exceptions) 41%  41%  [ 130 ]
Give a second chance (new account) 12%  12%  [ 39 ]
Score reset, disable submission, but leave account access 45%  45%  [ 143 ]
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Voted option 3 since scores and community are, to me, unrelated.
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vote 1 cuz people can go to top of leaderboards not making osu a game anymore >:(
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If nothing else, then a score reset would probably be the safest option. Even better, this should be undoable, in case it turns out that the player wasn't cheating. If a player cheats, then a simple score reset would enable them to stay in touch with the community.
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well that defeats the point its for cheaters
and hackers can hack u via internet do u want that huh do u want them to steal ur info and all that?
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Option 4: Send ninjas.

Mr Color wrote:
Voted option 3 since scores and community are, to me, unrelated.

Maybe so, but I don't see how anyone can cheat and still want the best for the community.
The only good it might do to let them talk on their existing account is if it stops them from creating multiaccounts and cheating again. It might be worth a try as an experiment to see if this is the case, but I doubt.
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You can cheat once then feel guilty and/or stupid about it and decide to redeem yourself by actively participating in the community, in my opinion. Granted, that's a rare case, but I think people who just want to cheat would leave by their own once they see that their scores have been reseted and that they can't submit new ones anymore.
It would also raise the problem of double accounts, but the other options don't fare better against this issue, so...
I still think it's the best option because we do give kind of a second chance to the cheater (being able to enjoy the chat, forums and whatnot) without being too lenient and actually encourage cheating rather than dissuading it.
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When I was younger, hacking an online video game was something that crossed my mind. I never did but I did do exploits that were border line. At this time, I now have ethics that prevent me from ever doing such a thing. My point is this game and young user base has those who haven't nailed down a sense of ethics. And concerning the cheaters, after giving them some time to think about their actions, a second chance would probably be best after the ban really informs them of the harsh consequences of cheating. But, for the osu! community at large, a permanent ban is best. You do work on the site and the game. Taking attention off of these single persons who might not learn from their ban, which as you state is highly the case, would give you more time to serve the community as a whole. Putting the needs of the many over the few, Lesser of two evils, etc.

Perm ban.
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I just don't understand why people who cheated on their main account like Lunah can have a new account and others who NEVER cheated on their main account can't play osu anymore. Can someone explain me?
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Giving second chances is reasonable, but banning from score submit and from chat/forums should be kept linked.

Edit: @coco: Multis are meaningless when it comes to that. Lunah was plain given a second chance.
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why can't i have one? I already agreed to reset my main account even being legit, thats only for main account cheaters right? I sereasly ask peppy to check my case again..
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Once again, please do not use this thread to plead individual cases. There are other, known ways to do that.
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I go with the first option; Once a cheater, always a cheater P: The saying dose not have to go for just relationships >.> lol
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permaban, unless they only did it like one time (and you know that somehow), and even then only if they seem actually sorry enough. :P
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i got into troubles for supporting players that are accused of cheating .
I am getting my head around the fact that not much can be done.
If some one cheats- they are the ones that are cheating to them selves so over time I am learning to just not care if some one is cheating or not.
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