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CXu wrote: Hurrdurr, can't you use a 320kbps .mp3 as long as you made the song yourself or something \o\ No, as I said. ziin wrote: The reason this rule exists is for quality filesize reasons, along with minor other reasons that are just gravy. By forcing lower bitrates, it saves bandwidth regardless, without falling under the "24 MB beatmap" rule. The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality and must not exceed an average of 192 kbps. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file of 128 kbps - 192 kbps, contact one of the more audio-savvy BAT; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you. Might still need some rewording, but I see no reason to break a rule just because the creator of the song didn't release it at anything higher than 80 kbps (and all the other samples online were from that lower quality original). Likewise, if I use vbr and get a decent quality and it averages out to 120 kbps, I should be able to use it. The spirit of the rule is good quality and nothing over 192 kbps. This is to keep the filesize down, and lessen strain on bandwidth. It does not matter if you own the song (you take all responsibility when you upload a song anyway). A side effect is that osu is less likely to be used as an illegal file sharing site, as only fairly lossy files are shared. |
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Might need splitting into a guideline and a rule, being a rule that it can't be higher than 192 but guideline that it cant be lower than 128, and i do know there are times where something 128 or higher does not exist anywhere.
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The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality and must not exceed an average of 192 kbps. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file of 128 kbps - 192 kbps, contact one of the more audio-savvy BAT; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you. I like this wording. It solves all the issues discussed in this thread. |
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I didn't remember about 8bit songs needing less bitrate, gomen..
Anyway, yes, this rule was mode to prevent osu! being a pirate game while keeping a decent audio quality. But you can actually use an higher bitrate if you DO possess the copyrights over that song (e.g. is made by you) in every parts ( if you're using a certain drumset or created it with a certain software, THAT YOU PAID ) you can use an higher bitrate. Anyway, can support it... To peoples who are in a pinch or so. You can freely request my help. I just like to hear peoples thankfulness.
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HakuNoKaemi wrote: I didn't remember about 8bit songs needing less bitrate, gomen.. Anyway, yes, this rule was mode to prevent osu! being a pirate game while keeping a decent audio quality. But you can actually use an higher bitrate if you DO possess the copyrights over that song (e.g. is made by you) in every parts ( if you're using a certain drumset or created it with a certain software, THAT YOU PAID ) you can use an higher bitrate. Anyway, can support it... This rule only covers song mp3s. There's no limitation (afaik) on hitsound wav files. As for mp3s you have full copyrights over... You'd need to prove it and everything, which would be quite annoying - 192 kbps is good enough. Unless you really want it distributed with the best possible quality. Let's go with this wording anyway: The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality and must not exceed an average of 192 kbps. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file of 128 kbps - 192 kbps, contact one of the more audio-savvy BAT; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you. If you have full rights on the mp3 you are using, you can go over 192 kbps bitrate. |
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HakuNoKaemi wrote: Anyway, yes, this rule was mode to prevent osu! being a pirate game while keeping a decent audio quality. But you can actually use an higher bitrate if you DO possess the copyrights over that song (e.g. is made by you) in every parts ( if you're using a certain drumset or created it with a certain software, THAT YOU PAID ) you can use an higher bitrate. No, it wasn't. The reason is filesize. The pirate part is a side effect. Obviously wav files do not count. They are under 30 seconds long, and typically audio under 30 seconds long is covered under fair use. And nobody is going to care if you used a cymbal crash at 1400 kbps; the filesize is tiny and it compresses well. Odaril wrote: The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality and must not exceed an average of 192 kbps. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file of 128 kbps - 192 kbps, contact one of the more audio-savvy BAT; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you. If you have full rights on the mp3 you are using, you can go over 192 kbps bitrate. we can't go over 192 for the actual song, period (if you want it ranked). You can link the high quality in the original post if you want. Technically you own the copyright for every song you submit, or have legal permission to distribute it. Everyone knows this is not the case, but that's how law works. peppy confirmed this in chat a while back, which I don't have logs for. |
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LunaticMara wrote: What if the song doesn't have any better quality than under 128kbps? Sakura Hana wrote: Might need splitting into a guideline and a rule, being a rule that it can't be higher than 192 but guideline that it cant be lower than 128, and i do know there are times where something 128 or higher does not exist anywhere. Edit: @ziin: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=40016 This is when the max bitrate was lowered to 192 kbps and even if they do heal the scar will remain and nothing will ever be the same |
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It would definitely be an improvement to mention VBR. Common sense goes out of the window when less informative rules cause even a MAT to point out irrelevant "unrankable" things.
D33d's #1 personal mapping rule: Use common sense. If something can not be justified with this, with the only reason being, "I'm being creative," then you are fabricating a bullshit-shaped house of cards on the San Andreas Fault.
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