ZUN - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When (Short Ver.)

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Urlangce
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年7月5日 at 17:33:36

Artist: ZUN
Title: Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When (Short Ver.)
Source: Touhou
Tags: Youmu Konpaku Perfect Cherry Blossom moe Naryuga
BPM: 155
Filesize: 7477kb
Play Time: 01:46
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.57 stars, 137 notes)
  2. Hard (4.91 stars, 362 notes)
  3. Lunatic (5 stars, 515 notes)
  4. Naryuga's Taiko Oni (4.83 stars, 683 notes)
  5. Normal (4.17 stars, 181 notes)


Download: ZUN - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When (Short Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I do my best to make this beatmap.
I hope someone can download this map, play it, and help me make it better.
Love Youmu.^_^
Hope you can enjoy it! :)

Thanks these people who give me a lot of help~~

  1. sherrie__fay
  2. Byakugan249
  3. yanguoke
  4. Ch1ka
  5. PROGUY
  6. [CSGA]Ar3sgice
  7. Scorpiour
  8. Katty Pie
  9. popner
  10. ertyukjh010
  11. Sushi(the sliderb.png is come from him~)
  12. backstep
  13. Mystica
  14. LKs
  15. Melophobia
  16. -[NYAN]-
  17. Melt
  18. Vass_Bass
  19. Cyclone(some skins is come from him)
  20. CDFA


  21. Special Thanks for Naryuga, because he make a taiko diff for this song~

I'll make it a awesome map~
I update some skins today(2012/6/6). You can tell me which part of it you like it or not. And I also need more mods and more stars~~~~
sherrie__fay
右侧一排按钮里有个distance snap,在E和N的难度里,必须全程开
红线的作用没看到 首先红线变速是unrankable 其次我没有看到你红线变速的部分
想变note间距的话,——按住alt键的同时,右上角就可以调节spacing的。
啊啊还有,一个串里的spacing最好不要变
↑解释: 假设你newcombo断句断成了12345 123456789 123 那么12345之间spacing最好一样 123456789之间spacing最好一样 123之间spacing最好一样 但这三个spacing是可以不同的 不知道你理解了没._..
点到timing里 slider tick rate 不能是0.5 也是unrankable 原因不详但就是这样
总之一句话 remap吧
remap不起的新人,做不起mapper的
Topic Starter
Urlangce
多谢了 我会重改的!!
YTYuyu
alright i'll help you out a bit. i can't do the whole mapset because i'm too tired.

General:
To insert a BG, go to design, click on insert background and put your BG
1 of the BG's dimensions is unrankable. resize that BG to 1024x768 like the other BGs. as you see i'm guessing this is for the easy diff. remember to do a full submission after you insert the BG's
You need to add hitsounds if you want to make this mapset rankable.
if you use hitsounds and you keep the volume at 100%, then it'll be loud and distracting to other players.
the mp3's bitrate is at 320. that's unrankable due to the filesize. take this file. i managed to re-enode it to 192.
also here is the re-sized BG with the proper dimensions.
Naryuga
Hi from #modreqs

red = you must fix
blue = you should consider to fix but still depending on your choice
black = only suggestions you can be free to ignore

  • [General]
  1. You had better follow Byakugan249's post.
    This map will much more awesome if you use them.
  • [Easy]
  1. OD +1~2
  2. 00:34:820 (5) - 1 grid down?
  3. 00:38:691 (1,2) - make symmetry (you can copy&paste and Ctrl+H)
  4. 00:41:788 (3) - Add new combo
  5. 00:54:175 (3) - Add new combo
  6. From 00:57:271 to 01:06:562 - you should not change the slider's speed since this is an Easy diff
  7. 01:18:949 (1) - make symmetry
  8. 01:23:594 (3) - 1 grid down because it is overlapping on slider(2), it doesn't look so good
  9. 01:25:142 (5) - Add new combo
  10. 01:26:691 (1) - Remove new combo
  11. 01:31:336 (5) - Add new combo because of long combo
  12. 01:37:529 (5) - Add new combo
  13. 01:39:078 (1) - Remove new combo
  14. 01:43:723 (5) - Add new combo
  • [Normal]
  1. OD -1~2
  2. 00:07:723 (9) - Add new combo
  3. 00:20:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - change some to slider
  4. 00:34:433 (x) - add a note here?
  5. 00:34:820 (5 or 6) - add new combo
  6. 00:38:304 (10) - fix spacing (if you fix this, using grid level 3 here would be better)
  7. 00:47:207 (5 or 6) - add new combo
  8. 01:06:562 (4,5,6) - delete these and insert break time? (Following to Easy and Hard)
  9. 01:18:949 (5) - add new combo, and map from here to the next note
  10. 01:31:336 (6) - add new combo
  • [Hard]
  1. 00:02:497 (x) - add a note
  2. 00:04:626 (1,2,3,4) - make like 00:01:530 ~ 00:03:078
  3. 00:35:594 (1,2) - change to a slider?
  4. 00:57:078 (9,1) - make more space
  5. 00:58:820 (5,6) - rhythm suggestion like the below
  6. 01:01:917 (5,6) - same as above


That's All.
Overall, this map has good potential :) star'd ☆彡
I want to make a Taiko diff for this @w@
Topic Starter
Urlangce

Byakugan249 wrote:

alright i'll help you out a bit. i can't do the whole mapset because i'm too tired.

General:
To insert a BG, go to design, click on insert background and put your BG
1 of the BG's dimensions is unrankable. resize that BG to 1024x768 like the other BGs. as you see i'm guessing this is for the easy diff. remember to do a full submission after you insert the BG's
You need to add hitsounds if you want to make this mapset rankable.
if you use hitsounds and you keep the volume at 100%, then it'll be loud and distracting to other players.
the mp3's bitrate is at 320. that's unrankable due to the filesize. take this file. i managed to re-enode it to 192.
also here is the re-sized BG with the proper dimensions.
Thank you very much, I didn't konw these before.

And Thank for you again. I'll do my best to make this song ranked.

:):):)
Topic Starter
Urlangce

Naryuga wrote:

Hi from #modreqs

red = you must fix
blue = you should consider to fix but still depending on your choice
black = only suggestions you can be free to ignore

  • [General]
  1. You had better follow Byakugan249's post.
    This map will much more awesome if you use them.

.......
Ahhhhhhh~

Thank you very much.Your suggestion is so good!
I have the confidence to make this song awesome!
Forgive my poor English~
:):):)
Naryuga
I found some problems while mapping Taiko diff, so I'll just tell you.

  • [General]
  1. The offset should be 1550. Don't forget to resnap all notes and green lines (Inherited points)
  2. You should set the Prevew point on every diff (my diff is set on 00:32:420, it seems to be the best place)
  3. When you make an Insane diff, the diff name should be "Lunatic" since this is Touhou music
  4. You should delete the .osb file (if you won't use SB) and images that aren't used, then do Full Submittion

No kudosu for this post


...By the way, Taiko diff is just completed! :)

Download: ZUN - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When (Short Ver.) (Urlangce) [Naryuga's Taiko Oni].osu

Also, BG
Topic Starter
Urlangce
You make it so fast!!!!
:)Thank you~
:):):)
yanguoke
Random mod from Baidu post bar(long long ago...
来看看能不能在音效方面给予些许帮助

仅以Hard难度为例

General
-选择soft的音效大体系是可以的,这首曲子用默认的音效就挺合适,貌似东方原曲大多都有这个特点。二四白线的音效下法就已够用
-整体音效音量可以再提高一点,到80%

下面说具体的

Hard

00:02:711 (5) slider头clap
00:04:259 (11) ^
00:05:808 (5) ^
00:06:969 (9) slider折返端clap
00:07:356 (10) slider头clap
00:07:743 (1) slider头finish
00:08:130 (2) slider头whistle
00:08:904 (4) slider头clap
00:09:679 (6) slider头whistle
00:10:453 (8) slider头clap
00:13:937 (1) finish
00:14:324 (4) whistle
00:15:098 (7) slider头clap
00:15:872 (4) whistle
00:16:646 (7) slider头clap
00:17:420 (2) whistle
00:18:195 (6) slider头clap
00:18:969 (2) whistle
00:19:743 (6) slider头clap
00:20:130 (1) finish
00:20:420 (2) 移至00:20:517,whistle
00:21:291 (6) clap
00:21:969 (2) 移至00:22:066,whistle
00:22:840 (6) clap
00:23:517 (2) 移至00:23:614,whistle
00:24:388 (7) clap
00:25:066 (2) 移至00:25:162,whistle
00:25:937 (7) clap
00:26:324 (1) slider头finish,并将slider延长至00:26:711,slider尾whistle
00:27:485 (3) slider折返端clap
00:27:872 (4) 将slider延长至00:28:259,slider尾whistle
00:29:033 (6) slider折返端clap
00:29:808 (2) slider头whistle
00:30:582 (4) slider头clap
00:31:356 (6) slider头whistle
00:31:743 (7) slider头clap
00:32:130 (8) ^
00:32:517 (1) finish
00:32:904 (2) clap
00:33:291 (4) whistle
00:33:679 (7) clap
00:34:066 (9) whistle
00:34:453 (10) slider尾clap
00:35:227 (12) clap
00:36:001 (1) slider尾clap
00:36:388 (3) whistle
00:36:775 (6) clap
00:37:162 (8) whistle
00:37:549 (9) slider尾clap
00:38:324 (11) clap
00:39:098 (1) slider尾clap
00:39:872 (4) clap
00:40:066 (5) ^
00:40:646 (6) slider尾clap
00:41:420 (9) clap
00:41:614 (10) ^
00:42:195 (2) slider头clap
00:42:582 (4) slider头whistle
00:42:969 (5) clap
00:43:356 (7) slider头whistle
00:43:743,00:44:517 (8) slider头、尾clap
00:44:711 (9) clap
00:44:904 (1) finish
00:45:291 (2) clap
00:45:679 (4) whistle
00:46:066 (7) clap
00:46:453 (9) whistle
00:46:840 (10) slider尾clap
00:47:614 (12) clap
00:48:001~00:50:711 (1~12) 跟前一段12连(00:44:904~00:47:614)的音效下法基本相同,只有00:48:001不加finish
00:51:485 (1) slider尾clap
00:52:259 (4) clap
00:52:453 (5) ^
00:53:033 (6) slider尾clap
00:53:808 (9) clap
00:54:001 (10) ^
00:54:582 (2) slider头clap
00:54:969 (4) slider头whistle
00:55:356 (5) clap
00:55:743 (7) slider头whistle
00:56:130,00:56:904 (8) slider头、尾clap
00:57:291 (1) finish
00:57:679 (2) slider头whistle
00:58:453 (4) ^
00:59:227 (7) ^
01:00:001 (8) whistle
01:00:775 (2) slider头whistle
01:01:549 (4) ^
01:02:324 (6) ^
01:03:679 (2) 移至01:03:872,slider头whistle
01:04:259 (3) 删去此note
01:05:227 (5) 移至01:05:420,slider头whistle
01:05:808 (6) 删去此note
01:06:582 (1) finish
01:09:679 (1) ^
01:10:066 (2) slider头clap

01:10:453 (3) whistle
01:10:840 (6) clap
01:11:227 (8) whistle
01:11:614 (9) slider尾clap
01:12:388 (11) clap
01:12:775~01:15:485 (1~11) 跟前一段11连的音效下法基本相同,只有1不加finish
01:16:259 (1) slider尾clap
01:17:033 (4) clap
01:17:227 (5) ^
01:17:808 (6) slider尾clap
01:18:582 (9) clap
01:18:775 (10) ^
01:19:356 (2) slider头clap
01:19:743 (4) slider头whistle
01:20:130 (5) clap
01:20:517 (7) slider头whistle
01:20:904,01:21:679 (8) slider头、尾clap
01:21:872 (9) clap
01:22:066 (1) finish
01:22:453 (2) clap
01:22:840 (5) whistle
01:23:227 (8) slider头clap
01:23:614 (9) slider头whistle
01:24:001 (10) slider头clap
01:24:775 (11) clap
01:25:549 (1) slider尾clap
01:25:937 (3) slider尾whistle
01:26:324 (5) slider尾clap
01:26:711 (7) slider头whistle
01:27:098 注意这里。按一直的二四白线下音效规则来说这里应该是clap,没错吧,可是现在这里是slidertick,要怎么让它有clap的音效,保证音效系统的完整性呢?这时候就要用到custom音效了,具体做法是:从其他图里找一个跟默认的clap一样的custom音效(这回你不用自己找了,我给你找好了:http://puu.sh/klj8),把它命名为soft-slidertick,复制到你这张图的文件夹里,在01:27:098处设一条绿线,在此界面中往左看有个Audio选项卡,选中Custom1选项,OK确定,这时这里的slidertick就会发clap的音效。
01:27:679 (8) clap
01:27:872 (9) ^
01:28:259 (1) finish
01:28:646 (2) clap
01:29:033 (5) whistle
01:29:420 (7) clap
01:29:808 (1) finish
01:30:195 (2) clap
01:30:582 (5) whistle
01:30:969 (7) clap
01:31:743 (2) slider头clap
01:32:130 (3) slider头whistle
01:32:517 (4) slider头clap
01:32:904 (5) whistle
01:33:291 (9) slider头clap
01:33:679 再注意这里,现在这个slidertick不应该发clap的音效,于是只要在这里也设一条绿线,点选Audio选项卡,选中Default,即原默认音效,OK确定即可
01:34:066 (10) clap
01:34:259 (11) ^
01:34:453 (1) finish
01:34:840 (2) clap
01:35:227 (5) whistle
01:35:614 (8) slider头clap
01:36:001 (9) slider头whistle
01:36:388 (10) slider头clap
01:37:162 (11) clap
01:37:937 (1) slider尾clap
01:38:324 (3) slider尾whistle
01:38:711 (5) slider尾clap
01:39:098 (7) slider头whistle
01:39:485 下绿线,Custom1
01:40:066 (8) clap
01:40:259 (9) ^
01:40:646 (1) finish
01:41:033 (2) clap
01:41:420 (5) whistle
01:41:808 (7) clap
01:42:195~01:43:549 (1~8) 跟前一段8连的音效下法相同
01:44:130 (2) slider头clap
01:44:517 (3) slider头whistle
01:44:904 (4) slider头clap
01:45:291 (5) whistle
01:45:679 (9) slider头clap
01:46:066 下绿线,Default
01:46:453 (10) clap
01:46:646 (11) ^
01:46:840 (1) finish
01:47:420 (2) whistle
01:48:969 (2) ^
01:50:517 (2) ^
01:52:066 (2) ^
01:52:646 (3) ^
01:53:033 (1) finish

其它难度的音效也可遵循二四白线clap的大致下法,与hard难度相类

关于节奏和排列方面说下大概的
节奏安排尚可,但是重复的段落有些多,这在排列方面也有明显体现,希望能更富于变化一些
适当增加滑条数,减少圈数
排列有些乱,相信会慢慢改善的,只要肯多下功夫
大概就是这些,再多加把劲,总会越做越好的,rank也指日可待。加油~~ :)

题外:看到你还做过仙四的图,如果你有意让那张《织梦行云》从坟里出来并remap的话,我可以帮你做个guest diff,并尽我所能
帮助你rank这张图。决定权在你,不强求。(我很喜欢古风音乐~
Topic Starter
Urlangce

yanguoke wrote:

Random mod from Baidu post bar(long long ago...
来看看能不能在音效方面给予些许帮助

关于节奏和排列方面说下大概的
节奏安排尚可,但是重复的段落有些多,这在排列方面也有明显体现,希望能更富于变化一些
适当增加滑条数,减少圈数
排列有些乱,相信会慢慢改善的,只要肯多下功夫
大概就是这些,再多加把劲,总会越做越好的,rank也指日可待。加油~~ :)

题外:看到你还做过仙四的图,如果你有意让那张《织梦行云》从坟里出来并remap的话,我可以帮你做个guest diff,并尽我所能
帮助你rank这张图。决定权在你,不强求。(我很喜欢古风音乐~
多谢帮助 这幅Map我是有决心已定要Rank的!!
织梦行云我也很喜欢,奈何当时没人理我 我不知道错误在哪里只能放弃。我肯定会把之前的Remap的,希望到时候你能够帮我~~

多谢了~~~~ :)
yanguoke
glad to see the hitsounds are mostly completed~ :)
you deserve it.Star ~
这条不用kudos。我时不时还会来看看(喂
Ch1ka
Hi, Urlangce. This song in my top 15 favourite Touhou themes, so I'm here.

[General]
-Add Naryuga to tags, because he/she made a guest taiko.
-Set a Preview Point. "Timing - Set Current Position as Preview Point".
-Different combo colours on different diffs. I don't know it's forbidden or not, so... skip it.

[Easy]
00:12:388 (4) - clap on end of slider?
00:44:904 (1) - Fix the distance, 1 must stand closer to 4
00:51:098 (1) - Fix the distance, 1 grid up
00:52:259 (2) - ^
01:03:485 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe I'm mistaken, but seems that pattern a bit hard for easy
01:24:388 (5) - Fix the distance, 5 must stand between 4 and 6

[Normal]
00:13:937 (1) - whistle on end of slider?

[Naryuga's Taiko Oni]
Just suggestions, I'd never mod taiko before
00:06:775 (1) - Maybe 1/8 stream? That would be so "Hardcore"! From 00:06:775 till 00:07:743.
01:20:517 (2) - Maybe 1/4 stream? Too long for 1/8 and spinner is so booooring.

[Hard]
00:11:227 (2) - Whistle on beginning of slider?
00:12:775 (6) - ^
00:22:066 (2) - Whistle?
01:30:775 (6) - Clap?
01:33:291 (9) - Clap on end of slider? And remove from 01:33:291 (9) - ?
01:43:162 (6) - Clap?

[Lunatic]
01:15:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - I understand that it is Lunatic, but this is ugly and confusing pattern. Change it, please.

That's all.
GL and bye!
Naryuga

Ch1ka wrote:

Hi, Urglance. This song in my top 15 favourite Touhou themes, so I'm here.

[General]
-Add Naryuga to tags, because he/she made a guest taiko. - mine is already set :P
-Set a Preview Point. "Timing - Set Current Position as Preview Point". - same as above


[Naryuga's Taiko Oni]
Just suggestions, I'd never mod taiko.
00:06:775 (1) - Maybe 1/8 stream? That would be so "Hardcore"! From 00:06:775 till 00:07:743. Disagree. I know 1/8 stream is unrankable and unplayable for ordinary people.
01:20:517 (2) - Maybe 1/4 stream? Too long for 1/8 and spinner is so booooring. umm... ok, changed but not all is stream. I hate very long stream.

That's all.
GL and bye!
Thanks for mod.

I changed something. Please update~

Download: ZUN - Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird ~ Till When (Short Ver.) (Urlangce) [Naryuga's Taiko Oni].osu
Topic Starter
Urlangce

Ch1ka wrote:

Hi, Urglance. This song in my top 15 favourite Touhou themes, so I'm here.
Thank you so much~~ :D
I'll Update it tomorrow~~ :D
Topic Starter
Urlangce

Naryuga wrote:

I changed something. Please update~
Thanks~~ :D
Ch1ka
Gah, I made a mistake in the nickname, sorry.
z__
;):arrow::shock:
Topic Starter
Urlangce

z__ wrote:

;) :arrow::shock:
:P:arrow::?:
sherrie__fay
easy和normal开AImod看下:各有一处spacing问题
hard的AR调到7 或者8
lunatic...居然真的能打!!!很了不起←我认真的
一般新人前几张图的最高难度都鬼畜到打不了!!!
stream间距调小就更好了,在这么快的节奏下stream已经很难了 不要再加大连打的间距了 否则就有overmap的倾向了
lunatic的x x xxx x x xxx这种三连和hard节奏差不多 只是变了spacing而已嘛...换掉一些吧
然后所有难度,滑条形状修好一点
图摆放整体再注重美观一点
很棒 真的 努力的话 真的有望rank呢!!!
然后就是kiai time用得有点多了 酌量减点吧
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